Having trouble losing (lower) stomach fat
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Basically at that level of cals you're going to lose muscle, it depends, do you want to lose weight regardless to get a number on the scale, or lose fat, get healthy and look good in the mirror, seriously if the answer is the former you may as well chop off a leg it's the same thing, basically damaging your body for an arbitrary scale number as fast as you can. If you want a healthy body you need to fuel your burns and slow down your loss. Take care hun and please take the advice given, people aren't trying to sabotage you they're trying to stop you from hurting yourself. xxx2
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princeofmind wrote: »You should not have said how much you eat on here. If someone says they do something unhealthy on here then the thread will get derailed from the original point.
At times, a person's question is the least important issue on the table. A thread *should* be derailed when people are harming themselves.15 -
princeofmind wrote: »You should not have said how much you eat on here. If someone says they do something unhealthy on here then the thread will get derailed from the original point.
As for your actual question the fat comes off from all over your body and there is no way to control the places that you lose it. So long as the number on the scale is lower than when you started then you are losing weight and eventually you will lose the fat from around your waist.
The thing is people need to know the information of why someone isn't succeeding otherwise any advice is pointless, if someones doing something unhealthy chances are that's why they're not getting the body they desire. x2 -
jennit1801 wrote: »I agree with the above comments about undereating. Eat more of the good stuff -- veggies, healthy fats and lean protein. Eat small meals throughout the day to keep your metabolism revved up too!
Not a thing. Eat when you want what you want at the proper calorie level. Macros are good to look into for health and satiation but even thats not needed. Dont complicate it, Fuel your body and it will treat you well.
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You are running on adrenaline - and you are at risk for a serious crash.
Think about it in these terms: What if you woke up one day and life as you knew it was over, due to some natural or man made disaster? Food was scarce and you were forced to do heavy labor or flee for your life. This is what your body is doing right now. It's working and you "feel just fine" because your body is designed to do this in "survival mode". This is not a tenable, long term solution for weight loss. Eventually, your body will turn on you and will begin to hold on to each and every calorie and weight loss will cease and in some cases reverse.
There are a lot of hormones that work in concert to keep you functioning. https://www.yourhormones.com/homeostasis-systems/
When you restrict food the body can only compensate for a short period of time before things start to break down.
https://www.katheats.com/is-adrenal-fatigue-making-you-fat
The last part you said about the body stopping to lose weight or even gain it is just not true.
If you're saying that 500 calories a day is not enough to maintain function then how can a person gain weight from it? Weight loss wont stop at all. If a person keeps eating that much they will lose weight until they have nothing left to lose and then die.2 -
From my experience I felt horrible after 5 days of eating about 300-600 calories (a long time ago when I was afraid to eat and thought 1200 was too much). I was in college and just felt like death on that 4th night. I don't understand how someone could eat as little as you say you are, workout as much as you say you are and feel perfectly fine.
Unless you are weighing everything with a food scale I believe you're eating much more than you think you are. You don't have to eat so little to lose weight; that was the best thing I learned this time around. I'm much more happier and healthier (mentally and physically) realizing that.
There might be differences between people on this ? Maybe it's about getting the right macronutrients
no - it doesn't work like that. the whole point is you CANNOT get your macros (or micros) without eating enough calories.4 -
princeofmind wrote: »You are running on adrenaline - and you are at risk for a serious crash.
Think about it in these terms: What if you woke up one day and life as you knew it was over, due to some natural or man made disaster? Food was scarce and you were forced to do heavy labor or flee for your life. This is what your body is doing right now. It's working and you "feel just fine" because your body is designed to do this in "survival mode". This is not a tenable, long term solution for weight loss. Eventually, your body will turn on you and will begin to hold on to each and every calorie and weight loss will cease and in some cases reverse.
There are a lot of hormones that work in concert to keep you functioning. https://www.yourhormones.com/homeostasis-systems/
When you restrict food the body can only compensate for a short period of time before things start to break down.
https://www.katheats.com/is-adrenal-fatigue-making-you-fat
The last part you said about the body stopping to lose weight or even gain it is just not true.
If you're saying that 500 calories a day is not enough to maintain function then how can a person gain weight from it? Weight loss wont stop at all. If a person keeps eating that much they will lose weight until they have nothing left to lose and then die.
Water weight doesn't take calories.
Look at the distended stomachs of famine victims. They're maintaining a certain weight, but continuing to lose muscle and bone and hair.
Metabolic damage is real. There are phases of starvation... and one of them involves regaining some of the lost weight.
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stanmann571 wrote: »princeofmind wrote: »You are running on adrenaline - and you are at risk for a serious crash.
Think about it in these terms: What if you woke up one day and life as you knew it was over, due to some natural or man made disaster? Food was scarce and you were forced to do heavy labor or flee for your life. This is what your body is doing right now. It's working and you "feel just fine" because your body is designed to do this in "survival mode". This is not a tenable, long term solution for weight loss. Eventually, your body will turn on you and will begin to hold on to each and every calorie and weight loss will cease and in some cases reverse.
There are a lot of hormones that work in concert to keep you functioning. https://www.yourhormones.com/homeostasis-systems/
When you restrict food the body can only compensate for a short period of time before things start to break down.
https://www.katheats.com/is-adrenal-fatigue-making-you-fat
The last part you said about the body stopping to lose weight or even gain it is just not true.
If you're saying that 500 calories a day is not enough to maintain function then how can a person gain weight from it? Weight loss wont stop at all. If a person keeps eating that much they will lose weight until they have nothing left to lose and then die.
Water weight doesn't take calories.
Look at the distended stomachs of famine victims. They're maintaining a certain weight, but continuing to lose muscle and bone and hair.
Metabolic damage is real. There are phases of starvation... and one of them involves regaining some of the lost weight.
Look at people with anorexia.
And if you're on about the "pot belly" seen sometimes on starving people in Africa from what I found the reason is "A “pot-belly” develops because of lax abdominal muscles and, in some cases, an enlarged liver."3 -
jennit1801 wrote: »I agree with the above comments about undereating. Eat more of the good stuff -- veggies, healthy fats and lean protein. Eat small meals throughout the day to keep your metabolism revved up too!
I will reevaluate my diet, I know I keep saying I feel normal since I'm not hungry during the day and get the feeling of a full stomach after a meal but as some said that might just be bc my body is used to it and goes into "starvation mode"? I don't really know how much more can I eat but maybe a little by little by increasing the portion size, id still like to keep the carbs low like 20-30g per day , and I'm kinda concerned about the fats
but I guess I can increase them a little bit and protein ofc. anyway, thanks 4 -
jennit1801 wrote: »I agree with the above comments about undereating. Eat more of the good stuff -- veggies, healthy fats and lean protein. Eat small meals throughout the day to keep your metabolism revved up too!
I will reevaluate my diet, I know I keep saying I feel normal since I'm not hungry during the day and get the feeling of a full stomach after a meal but as some said that might just be bc my body is used to it and goes into "starvation mode"? I don't really know how much more can I eat but maybe a little by little by increasing the portion size, id still like to keep the carbs low like 20-30g per day , and I'm kinda concerned about the fats but I guess I can increase them a little bit and protein ofc. anyway, thanks
what you are doing here is not "starvation mode" - it is simply starvation.3 -
princeofmind wrote: »You should not have said how much you eat on here. If someone says they do something unhealthy on here then the thread will get derailed from the original point.
As for your actual question the fat comes off from all over your body and there is no way to control the places that you lose it. So long as the number on the scale is lower than when you started then you are losing weight and eventually you will lose the fat from around your waist.
This may be true... but a large % of loss will come from fat with a smaller deficit. OP, get adequate protein, eat enought (set your goal to lose 2 lbs/week if you have 75 lbs to lose, 1.5 if 50-75, 1 if 15-50, and 0.5 if 10 or less) eat some exercise calories back, and do some strength training to help retain muscle so most of your loss comes from fat.
I'm trying to lose about 8-10kg still , according to Google that's like 22 pounds? And 1 lbs per week is maybe half or 1 kg less than I'm losing now, so I would lose 1 lbs in week as you suggest by just eating more ?0 -
jennit1801 wrote: »I agree with the above comments about undereating. Eat more of the good stuff -- veggies, healthy fats and lean protein. Eat small meals throughout the day to keep your metabolism revved up too!
I will reevaluate my diet, I know I keep saying I feel normal since I'm not hungry during the day and get the feeling of a full stomach after a meal but as some said that might just be bc my body is used to it and goes into "starvation mode"? I don't really know how much more can I eat but maybe a little by little by increasing the portion size, id still like to keep the carbs low like 20-30g per day , and I'm kinda concerned about the fats but I guess I can increase them a little bit and protein ofc. anyway, thanks
Fat helps keep your hair nails and skin glowy and beautiful i actively seek out extra healthy fats. Fats dont make you fat. Their necessary. FYI i eat a high carb diet and lost 100 pounds in a year eating what i wanted and not starving. I am now a healthy weight. Carbs are fuel, Dont fear them.4 -
princeofmind wrote: »You should not have said how much you eat on here. If someone says they do something unhealthy on here then the thread will get derailed from the original point.
As for your actual question the fat comes off from all over your body and there is no way to control the places that you lose it. So long as the number on the scale is lower than when you started then you are losing weight and eventually you will lose the fat from around your waist.
This may be true... but a large % of loss will come from fat with a smaller deficit. OP, get adequate protein, eat enought (set your goal to lose 2 lbs/week if you have 75 lbs to lose, 1.5 if 50-75, 1 if 15-50, and 0.5 if 10 or less) eat some exercise calories back, and do some strength training to help retain muscle so most of your loss comes from fat.
I'm trying to lose about 8-10kg still , according to Google that's like 22 pounds? And 1 lbs per week is maybe half or 1 kg less than I'm losing now, so I would lose 1 lbs in week as you suggest by just eating more ?
Yes I think a pound a week is the absolute max you should aim for, I don't know your BMI but personally I think if you are in the healthy BMI range already 1/2 is the best bet (that's what I aim for to try to preserve as much muscle as possible whilst I shift my last 10 pounds) Upping your protein is always good but seriously don't worry about upping your fat and carbs too your body will burn it off because you're in a deficit and if you're doing the strength training you can definitely ease up on the cardio if you're struggling to eat back the deficit you're building up. x
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I know someone who decided she was going to lose a lot of weight before her 40th birthday. She started eating low. Around 500 to 800 calories a day. Then she would go run an hour or so at night. Like you she felt great. But then it happened. Her hair started falling out in clumps along with other problems to the point she had to go to the doctor. To this day, she still has an eating disorder. They ended up putting her on an antidepressant to help her with her ED.
I don't know about you but I think losing my hair doesn't compare to a pudgy belly. It defeats the purpose of being healthy if you're doing damage to your body and organs.
Not being ugly by any means. I've just seen it happen.7 -
From my experience I felt horrible after 5 days of eating about 300-600 calories (a long time ago when I was afraid to eat and thought 1200 was too much). I was in college and just felt like death on that 4th night. I don't understand how someone could eat as little as you say you are, workout as much as you say you are and feel perfectly fine.
Unless you are weighing everything with a food scale I believe you're eating much more than you think you are. You don't have to eat so little to lose weight; that was the best thing I learned this time around. I'm much more happier and healthier (mentally and physically) realizing that.
There might be differences between people on this ? Maybe it's about getting the right macronutrients
Yeah right, you are a special snowflake......Good luck, you are going to need it.....
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From my experience I felt horrible after 5 days of eating about 300-600 calories (a long time ago when I was afraid to eat and thought 1200 was too much). I was in college and just felt like death on that 4th night. I don't understand how someone could eat as little as you say you are, workout as much as you say you are and feel perfectly fine.
Unless you are weighing everything with a food scale I believe you're eating much more than you think you are. You don't have to eat so little to lose weight; that was the best thing I learned this time around. I'm much more happier and healthier (mentally and physically) realizing that.
There might be differences between people on this ? Maybe it's about getting the right macronutrients
Yeah right, you are a special snowflake......Good luck, you are going to need it.....
mean im a beginner in all of this, i don't know *kitten* 2 -
@Eva_M97 (Eva's my niece's name. Love it!)
Read through these awesome threads. They have all the tips to get you started, healthily.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1161603/so-you-want-a-nice-stomach/p1 (Point #1 in this one is definitely for you! BTW, @usmcmp is one of the most knowledgeable people on this site, so believe her.
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quiksylver296 wrote: »@Eva_M97 (Eva's my niece's name. Love it!)
Read through these awesome threads. They have all the tips to get you started, healthily.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1161603/so-you-want-a-nice-stomach/p1 (Point #1 in this one is definitely for you! BTW, @usmcmp is one of the most knowledgeable people on this site, so believe her. )
OK thank you ! I'll look at these2 -
princeofmind wrote: »You should not have said how much you eat on here. If someone says they do something unhealthy on here then the thread will get derailed from the original point.
As for your actual question the fat comes off from all over your body and there is no way to control the places that you lose it. So long as the number on the scale is lower than when you started then you are losing weight and eventually you will lose the fat from around your waist.
Not to ignore the OP's original question, but the reason that threads get derailed after an OP mentions something very unhealthy is because it's UNHEALTHY, possibly to a dangerous degree. People are just trying to help by addressing the bigger issue. The stomach fat is far less important than the fact that OP appears to be consuming dangerously low calories. Not only is it important to address this with OP, but also to address it for any thread lurkers who want to know how to lose weight the healthy way. #sorrynotsorry5 -
From my experience I felt horrible after 5 days of eating about 300-600 calories (a long time ago when I was afraid to eat and thought 1200 was too much). I was in college and just felt like death on that 4th night. I don't understand how someone could eat as little as you say you are, workout as much as you say you are and feel perfectly fine.
Unless you are weighing everything with a food scale I believe you're eating much more than you think you are. You don't have to eat so little to lose weight; that was the best thing I learned this time around. I'm much more happier and healthier (mentally and physically) realizing that.
There might be differences between people on this ? Maybe it's about getting the right macronutrients
Yeah right, you are a special snowflake......Good luck, you are going to need it.....
mean im a beginner in all of this, i don't know *kitten*
1200 cals is the lowest amount you can eat and still get adequate nutrition0 -
princeofmind wrote: »You should not have said how much you eat on here. If someone says they do something unhealthy on here then the thread will get derailed from the original point.
As for your actual question the fat comes off from all over your body and there is no way to control the places that you lose it. So long as the number on the scale is lower than when you started then you are losing weight and eventually you will lose the fat from around your waist.
Not to ignore the OP's original question, but the reason that threads get derailed after an OP mentions something very unhealthy is because it's UNHEALTHY, possibly to a dangerous degree. People are just trying to help by addressing the bigger issue. The stomach fat is far less important than the fact that OP appears to be consuming dangerously low calories. Not only is it important to address this with OP, but also to address it for any thread lurkers who want to know how to lose weight the healthy way. #sorrynotsorry
I have no problem with people addressing the issue. But I do prefer it when people mention it at the same time as answering the original question and if they do not have an answer to the original question then to at least check if its already been posted 1000 times on the thread already.3
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