Severe depression

I have a really severe case of clinical depression and find that I can't get myself to do anything. I'm close to losing my job, I can't afford an apartment so I live with my parents at 30 years old, I don't really have any friends because they're all busy with their husbands/kids. I'm not looking for the typical food journaling advice because I already do that. A reward system doesn't seem motivating to me because I can't afford to buy anything. Does anyone have any unconventional methods of dealing with this situation? I only have to lose like 40 pounds but haven't been able to workout for more than 10 minutes a day. I'm really desperate.
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  • LeanButNotMean44
    LeanButNotMean44 Posts: 852 Member
    Have you seen a mental health professional? Are you on depression medication?
  • King_Spicy
    King_Spicy Posts: 821 Member
    I really don't have any advice that should be taken seriously. I've never felt depression before because I simply just don't give a *kitten* about anything. But hobbies maybe? Find something to get into like photography, video games, art, hiking, etc. It's my way of escaping the work and family life and having me time.

    Kayaking by myself, going hiking and rock climbing and bringing a camera along, going snowboarding and meeting random people on the slope. And sitting down after work to have a beer with video games. I enjoy alone time more than other people evidently.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    When in the midst of depression even small goals seem insurmountable. Have you considered getting some medical help to overcome the debilitating effects of the depression? In the meantime, you might seek a therapy group and some additional supports to find new ways to cope with the depression directly.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCrniLQGYc

    To tackle a long-term goal while in the throes of depression or anxiety, I break down the goal in to something achievable. It might be an hour a day. I set up a whole line of "rewards" and remind myself to take breaks. I could set a timer. If I work on the dreaded activity for an hour, I have earned a "reward".

    Non - monetary rewards - any pleasurable activity that keeps me in present moment and out of my own head. It might be re-reading a thank you card, going for a walk, paint my nails, a hot bath, a breathing exercise, re-read a favourite book, or visit the library.
  • sosteach
    sosteach Posts: 260 Member
    I too suffer from severe depression. You need to see a doctor. If you already are and you have been on meds for 6 weeks or more without improvement you need to go back. It sucks when the motivation is gone to have to fight for treatment but if you do nothing else you have to find a way to do this. You are worth it.
  • hnsmith89
    hnsmith89 Posts: 14 Member
    I have major depressive disorder and opt out of medication because I was on many different meds throughout the years so I completely know how you feel. I am a single mom to twins, 27, and still live with my dad. I just got over a depressive episode where I did nothing for a week straight but lay in my bed and it is literally the hardest thing to motivate yourself to even leave your house. It's gonna have to be mind over matter, even in my hardest times, if I wanted it bad enough I made myself atleast go walking. As hard as it feels to even get up, don't let your illness control you to the point it's debilitating. I think maybe reach out to your parents and see if they would help you get a membership at a wellness center so you can take some group fitness classes. You'll meet tons of new people and it's always nice knowing there's people there to help motivate you. I did it myself and ended up in the best shape of my life and made some of my best friends. There's options out there to improve all areas of your life, girl. Don't give up! According to them old folks out there, we still babies!!❤️
  • timtam163
    timtam163 Posts: 500 Member
    Ditto what LeanButNotMean said. Please seek help, sometimes you really cannot do things alone.

    I have less severe depression than you, but I really can't get myself to do anything when I am depressed. I had to wait out financial issues and other stressors before I could start working on myself, not because of excuses but because I couldn't muster the energy to care. Of course, it's a cycle: if you don't take care of yourself you feel worse and you don't have the energy to take care of yourself.

    I don't know if this is helpful at all, but I started looking at my coping mechanisms (junk food, drinking, video games) and one by one taking them on and making better choices. Meditation was by far the best thing I could do for myself; try calm.com, it's really easy and free.

    But again, that is a by-your-bootstraps method that may or may not work for you; it's no substitute for professional treatment.
  • kiramckell
    kiramckell Posts: 14 Member
    Have you seen a mental health professional? Are you on depression medication?

    Yes and yes

  • kiramckell
    kiramckell Posts: 14 Member
    King_Spicy wrote: »
    I really don't have any advice that should be taken seriously. I've never felt depression before because I simply just don't give a *kitten* about anything. But hobbies maybe? Find something to get into like photography, video games, art, hiking, etc. It's my way of escaping the work and family life and having me time.

    Kayaking by myself, going hiking and rock climbing and bringing a camera along, going snowboarding and meeting random people on the slope. And sitting down after work to have a beer with video games. I enjoy alone time more than other people evidently.

    I enjoy alone time too. But I don't enjoy doing things or going places. If I could just lay in bed forever I would.
  • kiramckell
    kiramckell Posts: 14 Member
    sosteach wrote: »
    I too suffer from severe depression. You need to see a doctor. If you already are and you have been on meds for 6 weeks or more without improvement you need to go back. It sucks when the motivation is gone to have to fight for treatment but if you do nothing else you have to find a way to do this. You are worth it.

    I see my dr regularly. I've been medicated for years and tried them all. I wish they could just cure it instead of treating it.
  • Panda8ach
    Panda8ach Posts: 518 Member
    kiramckell wrote: »
    King_Spicy wrote: »
    I really don't have any advice that should be taken seriously. I've never felt depression before because I simply just don't give a *kitten* about anything. But hobbies maybe? Find something to get into like photography, video games, art, hiking, etc. It's my way of escaping the work and family life and having me time.

    Kayaking by myself, going hiking and rock climbing and bringing a camera along, going snowboarding and meeting random people on the slope. And sitting down after work to have a beer with video games. I enjoy alone time more than other people evidently.

    I enjoy alone time too. But I don't enjoy doing things or going places. If I could just lay in bed forever I would.

    Have you tried meditation? I find it really helps me :) Headspace is a cool app to get started. If you enjoy alone time then it's perfect. Yoga is pretty cool too for chilling out and it burns those pesky calories :) I have depression, anxiety and BPD.... It sucks but you're not alone and you can find yourself again <3
  • spicyginger2006
    spicyginger2006 Posts: 70 Member
    I've struggled with depression most of my life. Something a therapist told me once in a critical time for me was that I needed to make my world bigger. Walk some dogs at the shelter, cook, go on a vacation, join a group or club in an activity you enjoy. Your world will get bigger and bigger. But you have to force yourself to do it- no matter how uncomfortable it makes you or how much you don't want to do it. If you don't change, everything will stay the same as it is now. I have been medicated before and it's helped me. I have been medicated and it hasn't helped me. It sounds like you're in a desperate situation, I would seek a dr.'s help and get on some meds for the time being so you can feel stabilized enough to work.
  • SRice4
    SRice4 Posts: 2 Member
    edited July 2017
    I haven't read all of the other comments, so this may be completely different than what the others have said. If you are looking for a more natural approach. Essential oils have helped me greatly with my depression and anxiety. I put them in my defuser, then lay down and try to relax for about 20 minutes or so to breathing the smell of the oil. if I'm having a really bad day I will wear them in a defuser necklace, that way I have the oils with me all day. Grapefruit oil is seems to work best for me. I don't have any sound Dr advice to back it up, this is what works for me.
  • Panda8ach
    Panda8ach Posts: 518 Member
    SRice4 wrote: »
    I haven't read all of the other comments, so this may be completely different than what the others have said. If you are looking for a more natural approach. Essential oils have helped me greatly with my depression and anxiety. I put them in my defuser, then lay down and try to relax for about 20 minutes or so to breathing the smell of the oil. if I'm having a really bad day I will wear them in a defuser necklace, that way I have the oils with me all day. Grapefruit oil is seems to work best for me. I don't have any sound Dr advice to back it up, this is what works for me.

    I'm going to try this! Can you buy diffuser necklaces? :)
  • DrifterBear
    DrifterBear Posts: 265 Member
    Keep seeing your doctor and taking medication. You should check out mindfulness. Do some reading on what it is and what it can do for you. There's a great mindfulness app that has guided meditations to help you learn about it. Besides that, hopefully you have a good therapist who can help retrain your brain. It's a serious thing, be patient and things will get better.
  • Pamela_Sue
    Pamela_Sue Posts: 563 Member
    It is difficult, but also encouraging for me, too see all the other people who suffer from major depression and are working on living out their lives as best they can. I too have tried 'all the meds'. It took me 25 years to find the right med combo and even it doesn't 'cure' anything, but only makes it bearable. I really feel your pain; I know what it is like to not want to leave the house and do anything, but rather live in the 'cloud of nothingness'. You have to fight for yourself, and with depression, every day is a fight. I would recommend counseling as a support mechanism. I found a counselor who helped me improve the aspects of my life; instead of focusing on my depression, we would tackle projects, such as financial, spiritual, physical, organizational areas of my life that needed help. The more I get these areas of my life in balance, it does ease up the depression somewhat, clear my head. Try to work on something, every day, for 10 minutes. Tackle a project, take a walk, pray, clean out a drawer; just force yourself to give 10 minutes towards a goal in your life. Do something, every day, even for 10 minutes. 10 minutes for you, even if you have to force yourself, and you often will have to. It seems like a small thing, but this is the best advice I can give you. I've been improving my life 10 minutes a day for years. It is what keeps my sanity, a small achievement every day. Just don't give up. Ever. We are worth the work.
  • tabletop_joe
    tabletop_joe Posts: 455 Member
    Have you considered volunteering part time for an organization that works in a field that interests you? I know it's hard to be interested in much of anything while depressed, but if you can think back to a time you were happy and think about what would've gotten your spark going, you can call them and ask if they'd like a hand.

    For me, isolating myself and laying around in a repeating cycle of sleep and painful circular thoughts are things I feel like I need to do--but if I do them, I get worse, feel worse, and it's harder to dig out the longer I do it. Come on out and join us if you can--we're waiting for you and we have tedious tasks to keep you out of your head! Not to mention, reliably volunteering can help other people (or animals!), making you feel better in return, and it can open new worlds up to you.
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
    kiramckell wrote: »
    sosteach wrote: »
    I too suffer from severe depression. You need to see a doctor. If you already are and you have been on meds for 6 weeks or more without improvement you need to go back. It sucks when the motivation is gone to have to fight for treatment but if you do nothing else you have to find a way to do this. You are worth it.

    I see my dr regularly. I've been medicated for years and tried them all. I wish they could just cure it instead of treating it.

    The way I see it, the meds aren't really a cure. They are only one important part of the equation. They help you adjust your brain chemistry enough to climb out of the black hole and get you to a place where you can start to make positive changes in your life and deal with underlying issues. If you are responsive to meds (not everybody seems to be) you can lift the depression far enough and long enough to start working "reprogramming" your thought processes. Then you can start establish a healthy, positive relationship with life, which gives you a better chance of long-term healing.

    It can take a long time and a lot of work. I can't imagine most people with severe, chemical depression can just decide to do it and do it on their own, though. You need support and a plan for changing the things in your life that are contributing to keeping you depressed. Because just taking meds but making no other changes toward improving your situation usually just leads back to that endless cycle. You'll still be stuck in the same scenario that your brain associates with negativity and depression - which makes it easier to slip back into it. Work with your therapist to figure out what changes in your life - job, education, relationships with others, - would help set you up for success. Good luck! When you're in the midst of it, it feels like depression will never end...like you will be trapped like that forever, hopeless. But it can and will get better. <3
  • kiramckell
    kiramckell Posts: 14 Member
    Have you considered volunteering part time for an organization that works in a field that interests you? I know it's hard to be interested in much of anything while depressed, but if you can think back to a time you were happy and think about what would've gotten your spark going, you can call them and ask if they'd like a hand.

    For me, isolating myself and laying around in a repeating cycle of sleep and painful circular thoughts are things I feel like I need to do--but if I do them, I get worse, feel worse, and it's harder to dig out the longer I do it. Come on out and join us if you can--we're waiting for you and we have tedious tasks to keep you out of your head! Not to mention, reliably volunteering can help other people (or animals!), making you feel better in return, and it can open new worlds up to you.

    I actually did used to volunteer at an animal shelter regularly because it helps a lot of people but it didn't really help me. Being out in the world a lot exhausts me and I find that having a lot of alone time is when I start to function a little better.
  • kiramckell
    kiramckell Posts: 14 Member
    pjshawley wrote: »
    It is difficult, but also encouraging for me, too see all the other people who suffer from major depression and are working on living out their lives as best they can. I too have tried 'all the meds'. It took me 25 years to find the right med combo and even it doesn't 'cure' anything, but only makes it bearable. I really feel your pain; I know what it is like to not want to leave the house and do anything, but rather live in the 'cloud of nothingness'. You have to fight for yourself, and with depression, every day is a fight. I would recommend counseling as a support mechanism. I found a counselor who helped me improve the aspects of my life; instead of focusing on my depression, we would tackle projects, such as financial, spiritual, physical, organizational areas of my life that needed help. The more I get these areas of my life in balance, it does ease up the depression somewhat, clear my head. Try to work on something, every day, for 10 minutes. Tackle a project, take a walk, pray, clean out a drawer; just force yourself to give 10 minutes towards a goal in your life. Do something, every day, even for 10 minutes. 10 minutes for you, even if you have to force yourself, and you often will have to. It seems like a small thing, but this is the best advice I can give you. I've been improving my life 10 minutes a day for years. It is what keeps my sanity, a small achievement every day. Just don't give up. Ever. We are worth the work.

    I do that too! I'll set a timer and force myself to do some housework or something for 10-20 minutes everyday. I just don't see how living this way every day for the rest of my life is worth it you know? If it's not possible to ever actually defeat these illnesses, why try so hard?

    I hate how everyone I work with can do this job that we all hate, but still enjoy their lives and I can't. I haven't stayed in the same job for more than 2 years since 2012. I'm always trying to change my situation but that's not the problem. I did have 1 job that I loved, but the company that owned us laid everyone off and disassembled the company. I'm in the same industry but it's so different. Now I'm just another cog in a machine and doing manual labor is wearing on me hard. Sorry to be so long winded. Just venting I guess.
  • kiramckell
    kiramckell Posts: 14 Member
    Panda8ach wrote: »
    kiramckell wrote: »
    King_Spicy wrote: »
    I really don't have any advice that should be taken seriously. I've never felt depression before because I simply just don't give a *kitten* about anything. But hobbies maybe? Find something to get into like photography, video games, art, hiking, etc. It's my way of escaping the work and family life and having me time.

    Kayaking by myself, going hiking and rock climbing and bringing a camera along, going snowboarding and meeting random people on the slope. And sitting down after work to have a beer with video games. I enjoy alone time more than other people evidently.

    I enjoy alone time too. But I don't enjoy doing things or going places. If I could just lay in bed forever I would.

    Have you tried meditation? I find it really helps me :) Headspace is a cool app to get started. If you enjoy alone time then it's perfect. Yoga is pretty cool too for chilling out and it burns those pesky calories :) I have depression, anxiety and BPD.... It sucks but you're not alone and you can find yourself again <3

    I used to use headspace! Didn't stay with it though, didn't really notice anything from it.
  • kiramckell
    kiramckell Posts: 14 Member
    SRice4 wrote: »
    I haven't read all of the other comments, so this may be completely different than what the others have said. If you are looking for a more natural approach. Essential oils have helped me greatly with my depression and anxiety. I put them in my defuser, then lay down and try to relax for about 20 minutes or so to breathing the smell of the oil. if I'm having a really bad day I will wear them in a defuser necklace, that way I have the oils with me all day. Grapefruit oil is seems to work best for me. I don't have any sound Dr advice to back it up, this is what works for me.

    I have tried oils and I actually have a couple of necklaces but I haven't tried grapefruit. I'll have to see if I can find some. I've used all the other citrus ones since they're supposed to help with sadness and be uplifting. When I need it most is when I'm at work but I can't wear jewelry in the warehouse :/
  • kiramckell
    kiramckell Posts: 14 Member
    Panda8ach wrote: »
    SRice4 wrote: »
    I haven't read all of the other comments, so this may be completely different than what the others have said. If you are looking for a more natural approach. Essential oils have helped me greatly with my depression and anxiety. I put them in my defuser, then lay down and try to relax for about 20 minutes or so to breathing the smell of the oil. if I'm having a really bad day I will wear them in a defuser necklace, that way I have the oils with me all day. Grapefruit oil is seems to work best for me. I don't have any sound Dr advice to back it up, this is what works for me.

    I'm going to try this! Can you buy diffuser necklaces? :)

    I got mine on amazon!
  • kiramckell
    kiramckell Posts: 14 Member
    Keep seeing your doctor and taking medication. You should check out mindfulness. Do some reading on what it is and what it can do for you. There's a great mindfulness app that has guided meditations to help you learn about it. Besides that, hopefully you have a good therapist who can help retrain your brain. It's a serious thing, be patient and things will get better.

    I've used a couple different mindfulness apps. I liked one of them, but they started limiting what you could use for free and since I might lose my job, can't spend money on apps...
  • DharmainHeels
    DharmainHeels Posts: 94 Member
    Yoga saved my life. You can stream yoga classes online for very cheap!
  • ansmit4642014
    ansmit4642014 Posts: 67 Member
    I don't want medication so I force myself to leave the house everyday and be around other people. I usually go to the gym but recently tried yoga and I think that could be a pretty easy exercise as they have "gentle yoga" and teach you to think about "staying in the present"
  • Meowz217
    Meowz217 Posts: 3 Member
    Omg. It's kind of a relief to know I'm not so alone in this.. I'm 28, I work a screwy, silly mall job and it's taken me years to get my associate's ( I have not yet completed it) because everything is so... hard. Everything is an insurmountable challenge. Getting out of bed is a feature in itself. It's so hard to not compare myself to friends of mine who either have their own places, degrees,careers,etc. Depression is like being paralyzed. I don't know if there are appropriate words to describe just how sad, angry and hopeless I become. That I am. I know how you feel. Lately it has gotten even worse for me. I got back into therapy. They charge on a scale based on your income, so it's not horrible. Maybe you can locate a place like that close to you. It has been helping and I will be getting back on medication . I was on one medication and it really did help me, so I will be going back on it. I'm so over weight because eating is how I deal with it all. I have a friend who is dieting and honestly it has helped me to do it with her. She's been motivating. So maybe, even if it is only on here, you can find that inspiration here or in someone you know. I may create a "dream" board and just put pictures and quotes that motivate me. And I may make more than one so it's always where I can see it. Also, when you are depressed, because everything is such a struggle, honestly good for you that you can do 10 minutes. Don't be so hard on yourself. You want to be better, and You re obviously trying; being on here, asking for help and doing those 10 minutes. That's effing awesome and I'm so proud of you. It took me about 4 months to clean my kitchen half way. I couldn't even do 10 minutes of working out in the past year and a half. So that's already better than what I was doing. Take it slow, do it however you need to do it. Even if it's 10 minutes.
  • kiramckell
    kiramckell Posts: 14 Member
    Meowz217 wrote: »
    Omg. It's kind of a relief to know I'm not so alone in this.. I'm 28, I work a screwy, silly mall job and it's taken me years to get my associate's ( I have not yet completed it) because everything is so... hard. Everything is an insurmountable challenge. Getting out of bed is a feature in itself. It's so hard to not compare myself to friends of mine who either have their own places, degrees,careers,etc. Depression is like being paralyzed. I don't know if there are appropriate words to describe just how sad, angry and hopeless I become. That I am. I know how you feel. Lately it has gotten even worse for me. I got back into therapy. They charge on a scale based on your income, so it's not horrible. Maybe you can locate a place like that close to you. It has been helping and I will be getting back on medication . I was on one medication and it really did help me, so I will be going back on it. I'm so over weight because eating is how I deal with it all. I have a friend who is dieting and honestly it has helped me to do it with her. She's been motivating. So maybe, even if it is only on here, you can find that inspiration here or in someone you know. I may create a "dream" board and just put pictures and quotes that motivate me. And I may make more than one so it's always where I can see it. Also, when you are depressed, because everything is such a struggle, honestly good for you that you can do 10 minutes. Don't be so hard on yourself. You want to be better, and You re obviously trying; being on here, asking for help and doing those 10 minutes. That's effing awesome and I'm so proud of you. It took me about 4 months to clean my kitchen half way. I couldn't even do 10 minutes of working out in the past year and a half. So that's already better than what I was doing. Take it slow, do it however you need to do it. Even if it's 10 minutes.

    Thank you.
  • RunawayCurves
    RunawayCurves Posts: 688 Member
    I have bipolar so alternate between feeling like living dead and feeling amazing. I suffer from depression far more than mania. I have tried all sorts over the years including literally sitting on top of a mountain in India meditating. When depression takes hold it strips the colour and energy out of everything. I find it much easier to get a grip on my mania than I do to get out of depression. The only medication that I have found remotely helpful with depression is a very low dose of Lithium. It does not make it go away, just takes the edge off. I find it totally impossible to positive think my way out of clinical depression, been trying for 30 years and it never works. In terms of breaking free using my own mind the only method that helps for me is to fast forward process by allowing myself to acknowledge how totally awful everything is. Then I tend to get really angry and the energy of that anger can lift me out of the depression. Music also helps. I put my headphones on and listen to loud music to inject some energy into my system.
  • RunawayCurves
    RunawayCurves Posts: 688 Member
    Funny videos sometomes help a little
    https://youtu.be/PKffm2uI4dk
  • crackpotbaby
    crackpotbaby Posts: 1,297 Member
    I have bipolar disorder which includes episodes of morbid depression.

    Outside of pharmotherapy and psychology the single consistent thing that helps is some kind of regular exercise outside.

    Currently for me that is walking or running (more of an unco jog) along the trails in a local bush land conservation park.

    When I'm really deeply depressed , even sitting out the front of my house having a morning coffee in the sun helps a little.

    Sometimes I have to tell myself, you're going to feel just as crap laying in bed so you might as well get up and see if this helps.