Fasting for weight control, and so much more WOW!
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ezekielsherrard205735 wrote: »I love how fasting melts those inches off!
All that lean muscle just melting right off... ok. :noway:15 -
Is there such a thing as wine fasting?28
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Gah. My blood sugar would crash in 6 to 8 hours.1
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lemurcat12 wrote: »
Eh, not saying it's the end of the world if one wants to skip eating for 3 days and then go running, but I don't get why there seems to be this trend of deciding it does magical things.
Definitely wouldn't go three days without eating. I wouldn't encourage that and I'm with you there.0 -
grumpygit1962 wrote: »Has anyone else had any experience with fasting. When I was a younger man and in the Forces I had it forced upon me once or twice(few dozen times), but nothing I ever intentionally set out to do.
Right now my triathlon training is going just great, though a little behind with the swimming, and my diet is so healthy. But there is one problem, my appetite is huge with the training and I was really struggling to loose the 10 lb to get me close to the perfect weight for me.
About a month ago ish I typical me fashion jumped into a 3 day water fast out of nowhere, just did it and even considered a longer period while doing it. After 30 hours things were happening and even not happening which I expected, ie being able to train quite well.
I was reading everything I could online during and after the fast, ordered a book by Mike Mosley BBC 5 2 Fast fame. When I broke the fast I was left with a thousand questions, nearly all good stuff along with the fact that I found it not as hard as I imagined, but a little tough at times. And though fasting can help with weight control there was so so much more it offers, I felt it after just this one try.
I have gone on to have more one and two day fasts and begin another on Sunday night for 48 hours, I feel like I have discoved a magic pill, what this in such a short space of time has given back is incredible, too long to list here, but mind, cleansing, HGH jump, attitude to food, energy, just too much to go on, there is even a spiritual element to consider and that's coming from someone like me, a non believer. Oh, and I took off 5 of those 10lbs off with a feeling that I have the next 5 lb cracked.
Like I said I have a fast coming again in a few days, I am not dreading it, part of me is again looking forward to it and cannot wait.
I even found myself grilling a muslim Taxi driver yesterday about Ramadan, and I actually impressed him with my 3 day water fast with a 55 cycle ride and swim next day
Has anyone else any experiences with fasting?
yes I have fasted for 5 days over the years and found it to work great.. I am presently on a 16 hour intermittent fast with a 8 hour eating period. also the Chiro Thin diet works this way with drops to help decrease food cravings.
What does fasting do to your body? Is it only maintaining or can u lose weight healthy?2 -
I fast 23 hours, eat one meal one hour. Loving it so far! Switched from keto and it amazes me how I feel and am overall so happy with what and how much I get to eat!2
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »ezekielsherrard205735 wrote: »I love how fasting melts those inches off!
All that lean muscle just melting right off... ok. :noway:
No, does not work like that.
Your body burns glucose from your liver in the majority of people, and when that is not available it eats away at fat stores and any other proteins sources and waste, even scar tissue before muscle even becomes an option, and that is a long way down the road.16 -
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I do daily intermittent fasting. Not too strict. I just go 18-20 hours since I last ate. Finished last night around 830pm so today Ill eat at 230 pm and finish hopefully by 730 pm. Ill take in around 2400 cals and it maintains my weight. I feel great and havent been this cut since my 20's.
I find when Im in a rut if I compress the time frame to 4 hour eating windows, it works best for me. I can take in 1800 cals, feel stuffed and be 600 cals under my daily target.
Coffee, water and keeping busy gets me thru the fasting period.0 -
grumpygit1962 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »ezekielsherrard205735 wrote: »I love how fasting melts those inches off!
All that lean muscle just melting right off... ok. :noway:
No, does not work like that.
Your body burns glucose from your liver in the majority of people, and when that is not available it eats away at fat stores and any other proteins sources and waste, even scar tissue before muscle even becomes an option, and that is a long way down the road.
Right... and that's healthy? K. No thanks.13 -
It's ironic you experienced a more spiritual aspect during your fast. Fasting is a spiritual act to honor God, not a weight loss technique. Great and good if you lose any weight, but your goal should be long term, as in meaning ... can you maintain what you achieved? If not, you might rethink your approach and look for ways that you can consistently apply methods to achieve your end result. Gimmicks and diets do not equal lifestyle changes. It's lifestyle changes that will make you successful in reaching and maintaining realistic goals. Best of luck as you reach the finish line and transition to maintenance!4
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getnickripped wrote: »I do daily intermittent fasting. Not too strict. I just go 18-20 hours since I last ate. Finished last night around 830pm so today Ill eat at 230 pm and finish hopefully by 730 pm. Ill take in around 2400 cals and it maintains my weight. I feel great and havent been this cut since my 20's.
I find when Im in a rut if I compress the time frame to 4 hour eating windows, it works best for me. I can take in 1800 cals, feel stuffed and be 600 cals under my daily target.
Coffee, water and keeping busy gets me thru the fasting period.
Im thinking of doing 16/8 fasting. Coffee is ok during the fast? Im assuming no cream?2 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »grumpygit1962 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »ezekielsherrard205735 wrote: »I love how fasting melts those inches off!
All that lean muscle just melting right off... ok. :noway:
No, does not work like that.
Your body burns glucose from your liver in the majority of people, and when that is not available it eats away at fat stores and any other proteins sources and waste, even scar tissue before muscle even becomes an option, and that is a long way down the road.
Right... and that's healthy? K. No thanks.
Yes it is
take it we are going to get no more interuptions from you now seeing as though you are so anti, Bye
And thanks for massive contribution11 -
grumpygit1962 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »grumpygit1962 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »ezekielsherrard205735 wrote: »I love how fasting melts those inches off!
All that lean muscle just melting right off... ok. :noway:
No, does not work like that.
Your body burns glucose from your liver in the majority of people, and when that is not available it eats away at fat stores and any other proteins sources and waste, even scar tissue before muscle even becomes an option, and that is a long way down the road.
Right... and that's healthy? K. No thanks.
Yes it is
take it we are going to get no more interuptions from you now seeing as though you are so anti, Bye
And thanks for massive contribution
I'll answer what I want. Have fun starving yourself.16 -
getnickripped wrote: »I do daily intermittent fasting. Not too strict. I just go 18-20 hours since I last ate. Finished last night around 830pm so today Ill eat at 230 pm and finish hopefully by 730 pm. Ill take in around 2400 cals and it maintains my weight. I feel great and havent been this cut since my 20's.
I find when Im in a rut if I compress the time frame to 4 hour eating windows, it works best for me. I can take in 1800 cals, feel stuffed and be 600 cals under my daily target.
Coffee, water and keeping busy gets me thru the fasting period.
I find on say a 2 day fast like I am starting this evening there is part of me when approaching the breaking of it that does not want to finish, It's is a feeling that is hard to explain and I am still as a newbie trying to articulate it.
And for those saying fasting is not normal and not good for the body, it is completley the opposite I am starting to discover.
Human evolution has taken 100,000's of years to evolve, what is not normal is three plus meals a day at regular intervals with a nice little breakfast in the morning, that constant producing of insulin, no wonder we have so many weight problem issues and diabetes today. What has been normal is constant fasting with the need for fast busts of energy and strength when that moment comes when a food source is available, so would the body really take it's energy from muscle when they would so badly be needed. But then obviously a fast can go too long, drought for example, then the muscle becomes an option.13 -
How do people fast?
I tried to once but by noon I was terribly hungry and felt weak and shakey and had to eat something.0 -
grumpygit1962 wrote: »getnickripped wrote: »I do daily intermittent fasting. Not too strict. I just go 18-20 hours since I last ate. Finished last night around 830pm so today Ill eat at 230 pm and finish hopefully by 730 pm. Ill take in around 2400 cals and it maintains my weight. I feel great and havent been this cut since my 20's.
I find when Im in a rut if I compress the time frame to 4 hour eating windows, it works best for me. I can take in 1800 cals, feel stuffed and be 600 cals under my daily target.
Coffee, water and keeping busy gets me thru the fasting period.
I find on say a 2 day fast like I am starting this evening there is part of me when approaching the breaking of it that does not want to finish, It's is a feeling that is hard to explain and I am still as a newbie trying to articulate it.
And for those saying fasting is not normal and not good for the body, it is completley the opposite I am starting to discover.
Human evolution has taken 100,000's of years to evolve, what is not normal is three plus meals a day at regular intervals with a nice little breakfast in the morning, that constant producing of insulin, no wonder we have so many weight problem issues and diabetes today. What has been normal is constant fasting with the need for fast busts of energy and strength when that moment comes when a food source is available, so would the body really take it's energy from muscle when they would so badly be needed. But then obviously a fast can go too long, drought for example, then the muscle becomes an option.
If humans have evolved as you state, why would 3 meals a day not be normal now for where we've evolved to? Why should we eat the way we did back then, if we are no longer the way we were back then? This doesn't make sense to me.21 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »grumpygit1962 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »grumpygit1962 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »ezekielsherrard205735 wrote: »I love how fasting melts those inches off!
All that lean muscle just melting right off... ok. :noway:
No, does not work like that.
Your body burns glucose from your liver in the majority of people, and when that is not available it eats away at fat stores and any other proteins sources and waste, even scar tissue before muscle even becomes an option, and that is a long way down the road.
Right... and that's healthy? K. No thanks.
Yes it is
take it we are going to get no more interuptions from you now seeing as though you are so anti, Bye
And thanks for massive contribution
I'll answer what I want. Have fun starving yourself.
How is it I'm "starving" myself when I eat like a King,?? I can eat basically anything I want and loads of it!! I have my cake and eat it too- literally!!5 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »grumpygit1962 wrote: »getnickripped wrote: »I do daily intermittent fasting. Not too strict. I just go 18-20 hours since I last ate. Finished last night around 830pm so today Ill eat at 230 pm and finish hopefully by 730 pm. Ill take in around 2400 cals and it maintains my weight. I feel great and havent been this cut since my 20's.
I find when Im in a rut if I compress the time frame to 4 hour eating windows, it works best for me. I can take in 1800 cals, feel stuffed and be 600 cals under my daily target.
Coffee, water and keeping busy gets me thru the fasting period.
I find on say a 2 day fast like I am starting this evening there is part of me when approaching the breaking of it that does not want to finish, It's is a feeling that is hard to explain and I am still as a newbie trying to articulate it.
And for those saying fasting is not normal and not good for the body, it is completley the opposite I am starting to discover.
Human evolution has taken 100,000's of years to evolve, what is not normal is three plus meals a day at regular intervals with a nice little breakfast in the morning, that constant producing of insulin, no wonder we have so many weight problem issues and diabetes today. What has been normal is constant fasting with the need for fast busts of energy and strength when that moment comes when a food source is available, so would the body really take it's energy from muscle when they would so badly be needed. But then obviously a fast can go too long, drought for example, then the muscle becomes an option.
If humans have evolving as you state, why would 3 meals a day not be normal now for where we've evolved to? Why should we eat the way we did back then, if we are no longer the way we were back then? This doesn't make sense to me.
That is why there is so much obesity and food related illnesses.. because humans are now eating so much more and frequently.8 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »grumpygit1962 wrote: »getnickripped wrote: »I do daily intermittent fasting. Not too strict. I just go 18-20 hours since I last ate. Finished last night around 830pm so today Ill eat at 230 pm and finish hopefully by 730 pm. Ill take in around 2400 cals and it maintains my weight. I feel great and havent been this cut since my 20's.
I find when Im in a rut if I compress the time frame to 4 hour eating windows, it works best for me. I can take in 1800 cals, feel stuffed and be 600 cals under my daily target.
Coffee, water and keeping busy gets me thru the fasting period.
I find on say a 2 day fast like I am starting this evening there is part of me when approaching the breaking of it that does not want to finish, It's is a feeling that is hard to explain and I am still as a newbie trying to articulate it.
And for those saying fasting is not normal and not good for the body, it is completley the opposite I am starting to discover.
Human evolution has taken 100,000's of years to evolve, what is not normal is three plus meals a day at regular intervals with a nice little breakfast in the morning, that constant producing of insulin, no wonder we have so many weight problem issues and diabetes today. What has been normal is constant fasting with the need for fast busts of energy and strength when that moment comes when a food source is available, so would the body really take it's energy from muscle when they would so badly be needed. But then obviously a fast can go too long, drought for example, then the muscle becomes an option.
If humans have evolving as you state, why would 3 meals a day not be normal now for where we've evolved to? Why should we eat the way we did back then, if we are no longer the way we were back then? This doesn't make sense to me.
Because food on mass is now available, you give animals an endless source of food and they will eat until they can hardly move. I often see pets like this and think it very cruel to allow to happen, yet we do it to ourselves.
But Hey!
If you think it's normal to eat to the point where you are ill and in many cases people have to be lifted out of their homes using lifting equipment and cranes, who am I to argue.14 -
czmiles926 wrote: »How do people fast?
I tried to once but by noon I was terribly hungry and felt weak and shakey and had to eat something.
Maybe I am one of the luck ones, I love my food and lucky enough to enjoy very healthy food. But I really did not struggle, it was harder for me to have a little rather than nothing.
And once my fast ends, Boy is that mellon good or lentil curry out of this world.4 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »grumpygit1962 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »grumpygit1962 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »ezekielsherrard205735 wrote: »I love how fasting melts those inches off!
All that lean muscle just melting right off... ok. :noway:
No, does not work like that.
Your body burns glucose from your liver in the majority of people, and when that is not available it eats away at fat stores and any other proteins sources and waste, even scar tissue before muscle even becomes an option, and that is a long way down the road.
Right... and that's healthy? K. No thanks.
Yes it is
take it we are going to get no more interuptions from you now seeing as though you are so anti, Bye
And thanks for massive contribution
I'll answer what I want. Have fun starving yourself.
OK
Thanks for sharing that5 -
I have nothing against fasting, works for some people, lots of reasons, I naturally do a form of 16/8 most days. Do I'm not into debating it as good or better.
But I do want to say that in those already susceptible, fasting can trigger or worsen eating disorders. Esp those who are fasting in order to lose weight or control intake thru multi day fasts. Doesnt matter if you start it overweight or already thin. There's sometimes a moment which you think, hey I've gone this long, one more day, or you don't want to go back to eating normally or you binge, feel bad about binging, go in another fast, etc.
Because I know that I have been prone to ignoring my health when it comes to nourishment, despite years and years of normal eating, I will not try a multi day fast. I know how the thinking can change rapidly, particularly in times of stress. I encourage anyone who might be thinking of fasting and has some disordered habits to be aware.
Stepping off the soap box now.11 -
grumpygit1962 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »grumpygit1962 wrote: »getnickripped wrote: »I do daily intermittent fasting. Not too strict. I just go 18-20 hours since I last ate. Finished last night around 830pm so today Ill eat at 230 pm and finish hopefully by 730 pm. Ill take in around 2400 cals and it maintains my weight. I feel great and havent been this cut since my 20's.
I find when Im in a rut if I compress the time frame to 4 hour eating windows, it works best for me. I can take in 1800 cals, feel stuffed and be 600 cals under my daily target.
Coffee, water and keeping busy gets me thru the fasting period.
I find on say a 2 day fast like I am starting this evening there is part of me when approaching the breaking of it that does not want to finish, It's is a feeling that is hard to explain and I am still as a newbie trying to articulate it.
And for those saying fasting is not normal and not good for the body, it is completley the opposite I am starting to discover.
Human evolution has taken 100,000's of years to evolve, what is not normal is three plus meals a day at regular intervals with a nice little breakfast in the morning, that constant producing of insulin, no wonder we have so many weight problem issues and diabetes today. What has been normal is constant fasting with the need for fast busts of energy and strength when that moment comes when a food source is available, so would the body really take it's energy from muscle when they would so badly be needed. But then obviously a fast can go too long, drought for example, then the muscle becomes an option.
If humans have evolving as you state, why would 3 meals a day not be normal now for where we've evolved to? Why should we eat the way we did back then, if we are no longer the way we were back then? This doesn't make sense to me.
Because food on mass is now available, you give animals an endless source of food and they will eat until they can hardly move. I often see pets like this and think it very cruel to allow to happen, yet we do it to ourselves.
But Hey!
If you think it's normal to eat to the point where you are ill and in many cases people have to be lifted out of their homes using lifting equipment and cranes, who am I to argue.
Do you have any idea what the average life expectancy was back then? Should we revert to that, too?24 -
clairelizzy1972 wrote: »getnickripped wrote: »I do daily intermittent fasting. Not too strict. I just go 18-20 hours since I last ate. Finished last night around 830pm so today Ill eat at 230 pm and finish hopefully by 730 pm. Ill take in around 2400 cals and it maintains my weight. I feel great and havent been this cut since my 20's.
I find when Im in a rut if I compress the time frame to 4 hour eating windows, it works best for me. I can take in 1800 cals, feel stuffed and be 600 cals under my daily target.
Coffee, water and keeping busy gets me thru the fasting period.
Im thinking of doing 16/8 fasting. Coffee is ok during the fast? Im assuming no cream?
"They" say if you keep it under 50 total calories you wont break the fast. Dont know if its true but I guess there is a number. If I have 5 calories do I break my fast? 10 calories? So the rule of thumb is 50.
That being said, I do espresso. But if its not time for me to eat yet and I want a coffee I have one with cream. So if i go over 50 cals and break the fast, so be it. I may be losing the benefit of fasting on a cellular level but it allows me to extend the period of not eating, which is the primary reason im doing it. My body reaping some fasting advantages is secondary.2 -
skymningen wrote: »King_Spicy wrote: »I wish people would also stop using the term "water fasting." Noone calls it that. It's just fasting. People still drink water during a normal fast in any country that I've ever been in (which include a *kitten* ton of muslim countries)
I don't think it is to emphasize that they still drink water during fasting, but that they drink nothing else. I have heard of broth fasting, kale soup fasting, fasting with specially mixed herbal teas and so much more. All of those are fasting. Water fasting is just the one with nothing but water.
All of those other things are NOT fasts. Fasting is taking in NO NOURISHMENT for a designated period of time. Water is allowed because it is not nourishing.
I have fasted for religious reasons. Usually a day but once for 3 days. I would never do it for weight loss purposes.5 -
OP, check out the specialized groups for Intermittent Fasting on here if you want to follow up. People post these "Anybody heard of fasting?" things every few days and it's always the same responses.
FWIW, I've done 5:2 and 6:1 (maintenance) for almost three years now. From my experiences and reading, I'm very pleased.
Here's a good article about a study which covers a lot of questions raised here, for anyone interested:
https://suppversity.blogspot.com/2016/09/true-alternate-day-fast-beats-classic.html0 -
skymningen wrote: »King_Spicy wrote: »I wish people would also stop using the term "water fasting." Noone calls it that. It's just fasting. People still drink water during a normal fast in any country that I've ever been in (which include a *kitten* ton of muslim countries)
I don't think it is to emphasize that they still drink water during fasting, but that they drink nothing else. I have heard of broth fasting, kale soup fasting, fasting with specially mixed herbal teas and so much more. All of those are fasting. Water fasting is just the one with nothing but water.
All of those other things are NOT fasts. Fasting is taking in NO NOURISHMENT for a designated period of time. Water is allowed because it is not nourishing.
I have fasted for religious reasons. Usually a day but once for 3 days. I would never do it for weight loss purposes.
Cannot say I am fasting for religious reasons, but I totally get the spiritual reasoning why people do it, had a great chat with a muslim gut the ither day about fasting.
I am coming around to seeing fasting as a great way to re balance the body mental and physical. I am reading up a lot at the moment on the subject of the increase in HGH, which if done naturally, which it is in this case, has huge health benefits for people, also reading up a lot on insulin while fasting. Which in a rounabout way leads to healthy weight control, not just the shedding of weight during the fast,4
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