No one can live on foods of penitence
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Anybody who says that hasn't tasted my delicious hair shirt soup!
The secret ingredient is tough-love.11 -
goldthistime wrote: »I actually like plain food. I don't dislike food with spices or sauces, but I'm equally happy to eat some thing like roasted chicken and three steamed veggies, (sans seasoning), day in and day out.
But I heartily agree with the idea that you're more likely to get to goal and stay there if you approach things with self love than punishment.
That's the point, though. You eat that way because that's what you find delicious.
Back when I ate meat, I preferred nothing so much as a well-roasted chicken just seasoned with salt and pepper.
My breakfast of choice right now isn't some culinary masterpiece, but I adore it. It's simply raspberries, Greek yogurt, flax meal, and chia seeds. I think it's divine. It might taste like the contents of a cement mixer to someone else for all I care.
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Now I'm really curious what penitent foods would be?
Caster Oil?
Kale?0 -
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To me, cottage cheese inside a tomato is the very definition of something yummy. They are two of my favorite foods.
That reminds me, I want to drive out to the local farm to buy tomatoes this week.4 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »To me, cottage cheese inside a tomato is the very definition of something yummy. They are two of my favorite foods.
That reminds me, I want to drive out to the local farm to buy tomatoes this week.
If someone enjoys it, I wouldn't consider it a food of penitence. But my mom always looked so glum eating it!6 -
Now I'm really curious what penitent foods would be?
Caster Oil?
Kale?
To me it's eating food that you find less than appealing because you think you have to because you're on a diet.
Or denying yourself things you could otherwise fit into your calories because they're not typically considered "diet food". Things like potatoes or bread or chicken with skin or hamburgers or pizza.8 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Now I'm really curious what penitent foods would be?
Caster Oil?
Kale?
To me it's eating food that you find less than appealing because you think you have to because you're on a diet.
Or denying yourself things you could otherwise fit into your calories because they're not typically considered "diet food". Things like potatoes or bread or chicken with skin or hamburgers or pizza.
That's what I thought too.1 -
Now I'm really curious what penitent foods would be?
Caster Oil?
Kale?
I think, anything you wouldn't normally eat, but do "because" you want to lose weight. For me it would be.... low-carb tortillas or non-fat, artificially sweetened desserts. I imagine it would be different for everyone.2 -
:::small voice:::::
I like rice cakes.16 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »:::small voice:::::
I like rice cakes.
I like steamed cauliflower!9 -
Now I'm really curious what penitent foods would be?
Caster Oil?
Kale?
For me...fried liver. Or just about any way to prepare liver (shudder)
I think I read somewhere that the various religious orders of monks, for fasting or penitence, would be where they did not eat. However, beer was not considered food during that time, so they would drink their yummy beer. THAT I could do for fasting or penitence
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piperdown44 wrote: »Now I'm really curious what penitent foods would be?
Caster Oil?
Kale?
For me...fried liver. Or just about any way to prepare liver (shudder)
I think I read somewhere that the various religious orders of monks, for fasting or penitence, would be where they did not eat. However, beer was not considered food during that time, so they would drink their yummy beer. THAT I could do for fasting or penitence
This story is probably apocryphal, but it's too good not to share. (Source)So you gave up dessert for Lent? Good for you, you wimp! Once upon a time, German monks ate nothing for the entirety of the Lenten fast. No bread, no salad, no fruit—nothing. Beat that.
How did they survive, you ask? By imbibing large quantities of heavy, calorie rich beer, of course!
Around 700 years ago, German monks in the town of Einbeck developed a specific style of malty, dark, high alcohol beer to help sustain them during intense periods of fasting. This beer became known as Bock, a corruption of the name Einbeck. Later, discontent with the strength of Bock style beer, monks developed an even stronger variant known as Doppelbock, meaning double Bock. This beer was so laden with nutrition that some dubbed it “liquid bread.”
Now, these beers were so delicious that the monks began to wonder if they were contrary to the spirit of Lenten penance. Being faithful sons of the Church, they decided to consult the pope. On the journey to Rome, however, the beer was subjected to extreme weather conditions, causing it to spoil and turn sour. When the pope tasted it, he was so appalled by the spoiled beer that he immediately deemed it an excellent Lenten penance.13 -
I lost weight eating 1200-1400 calories and watching a lot of TV. You don't need a gym. Just make sure you are absolutely counting your calories and being very honest about the amount of food you are eating.2
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Rebecca0224 wrote: »Well said. Eating for nutrition can be - should be - enjoyable as well.
Having become overweight is not a sin requiring expiation through unpleasant exercise or unenjoyable food. Being miserable burns no extra calories.
I say something similar to this, being overweight is not a sin or illegal and losing weight is not a punishment.
I agree with both of you here.
From a Christian (RC) point of view, being overweight isn't a sin - gluttony is a sin. Obesity is the tangible effect of gluttony. Other sins, including more serious ones, don't leave such visible markings.
I wonder if this has anything to do with the cultural negativity towards fat people (shaming). We can't see other 'sins', but think we can somehow see the "failings" of an obese person (quotation marks are deliberate, because I think obesity is a complicated issue and it doesn't makes someone a bad or less worthy person in any way if they are fat). In western society, we have a tendency to judge others regardless of our own personal religious tradition. Often it's subconscious and it takes a lot of self awareness to identify and correct.
I know that fat shaming acceptance has it's own thread, and I don't mean to derail this one.7 -
piperdown44 wrote: »Now I'm really curious what penitent foods would be?
Caster Oil?
Kale?
For me...fried liver. Or just about any way to prepare liver (shudder)
I think I read somewhere that the various religious orders of monks, for fasting or penitence, would be where they did not eat. However, beer was not considered food during that time, so they would drink their yummy beer. THAT I could do for fasting or penitence
Unfortunately it was usually 'small beer' during the day as plain water was not fit to drink.
Going at it with Miller Lite just doesn't appeal the same.
As a side note, I have 'sampled' quite a few of the full beers originally brewed by monks when in Bruges, they truely were delicious.
Cheers, h.2 -
Now I'm really curious what penitent foods would be?
Caster Oil?
Kale?
Is castor oil a 'food'?
Kale on the other hand . . . . is delicious in a sausage scramble with onions and cheese
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I agree with @Need2Exerc1se and @GottaBurnEmAll - penitent foods are anything that you think you HAVE to eat as opposed to something that you WANT to eat.3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »:::small voice:::::
I like rice cakes.
I like steamed cauliflower!
I love cauliflower in most preparations but just can't get on-board with it when steamed. And I love most other steamed vegetables. It's too vile.
Same thing with broccoli. I love it in most preparations but the raw florets (not the stem, just the florets) are gross to me when raw.0 -
Foods of penitence. I posit that this was why my obese mother occasionally brought home a bag of grapefruit, which she proceeded to eat with sugar.
The stuff I eat now is very different from the stuff I ate before I created this mfp user account.
Probiotic kefir, kombucha, kimchi, and yogurt are less about penitence than just learning stuff I hadn't known before. I actually like my breakfast green smoothie with kefir, kale, and omega-3 fats.5
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