Suicide rates at a 40 year high among teenagers and young adults
retro_gamer
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There needs to be more awareness, seminars, classes, programs, just general information in schools. Actually throughout the public as a whole.0
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Cite, please.0
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I'm sure that being a teenager and growing up with social media is probably very challenging.1
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Things have changed massively even since I was a teenager and I'm only 32, peer pressure used to be a local thing but with technology and social media it's relentless.
Even though many of these kids dress and act a lot older than their years they are still only kids. It's the cyber bullying that terrifies me and my son is only a toddler, there is no safe place anymore kids can be bullied in their own homes.1 -
How come people in under developed countries don't seem to have this issue? Oh, I know, because they're more concerned about finding their next meal and living to see the next day. When life is literally day-to-day suicide doesn't seem to be an issue.6
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Why don't children who are diagnosed with cancer or other life threatening diseases, and have to endure pain and suffering just kill themselves when their chance of survival is bleak? Oh I know, cause they don't have time to waste worrying, ya know, since their on deaths door and their life is about to end before it begins.5
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Depression and mental health issues don't discriminate.6 -
My guess, and I think it's mentioned up thread, is that it stems from feeling alienated and a lack of social connection. Also I think, possibly, a disruption in bonding or weak bonding. A disproportionate percentage of that age group were raised in daycare or in the care of a nanny or babysitter 10 to 12 hours a day. My views on the subject are socially conservative - and this is a very left crowd - so the discussion could easily go up in flames and I'm already sitting on a warning. I think I'll lurk from here.
It's a shame you can't express your ideas without fear of offending someone that doesn't agree with them. I think you and I have similar thoughts.4 -
Why don't children who are diagnosed with cancer or other life threatening diseases, and have to endure pain and suffering just kill themselves when their chance of survival is bleak? Oh I know, cause they don't have time to waste worrying, ya know, since their on deaths door and their life is about to end before it begins.
Some do. Some choose to not undergo treatment. Some commit suicide. Some aren't clinically depressed2 -
How come people in under developed countries don't seem to have this issue? Oh, I know, because they're more concerned about finding their next meal and living to see the next day. When life is literally day-to-day suicide doesn't seem to be an issue.
Funny how the areas of my country (Canada) that have extreme poverty and are the most socially isolated have very high suicide rates (first nation reserves)3 -
How come people in under developed countries don't seem to have this issue? Oh, I know, because they're more concerned about finding their next meal and living to see the next day. When life is literally day-to-day suicide doesn't seem to be an issue.
what are you even on about? from that sort of ignorant generalization, i bet you've never even been to a developing country before.
academic papers out there clearly state the opposite:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1414701/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1240102/
if you even bothered to do a quick search on wikipedia before typing that out, you'd see that the top 30 countries with the highest suicide rates are all very much developing, with the exception of south korea and japan:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate8 -
So why do young people commit suicide?1
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Just because you have physical things and money doesn't mean you are immune to depression.2 -
singingflutelady wrote: »
I get that. But why would they be rising the past 40 years? I understand mental illness is serious and suicide is a serious issue.1 -
Maybe because of more social isolation since people seem to interact more with their devices than each other. Also maybe more bullying? Back in the day they only bullied you at school and in the neighbourhood but now with so many devices bullying happens 24/7 in your own home without a break.1
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singingflutelady wrote: »Maybe because of more social isolation since people seem to interact more with their devices than each other. Also maybe more bullying? Back in the day they only bullied you at school and in the neighbourhood but now with so many devices bullying happens 24/7 in your own home without a break.
I think you're right.1 -
Also has addiction rates risen? There is a connection between drug abuse and suicide as well0
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How many young children do you have?
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More dysfunctional families? Higher academic standards and more stress?0
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Help available for mental health issues at least in the U.S. is not a priority. There are people who seek help and cannot get it and feel like this is their only way out. It's an atrocity and breaks my heart.
A friend of mine took his own life this past Sunday by hanging himself in a hotel room. He had many who loved him and tried to help. He sought help. But the system is broken.2 -
Also, at least in my experience, suicides come in waves and some get the idea when a loved one, friend or peer does it or if someone famous does it.0
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Avocado_AS5 wrote: »Help available for mental health issues at least in the U.S. is not a priority. There are people who seek help and cannot get it and feel like this is their only way out. It's an atrocity and breaks my heart.
A friend of mine took his own life this past Sunday by hanging himself in a hotel room. He had many who loved him and tried to help. He sought help. But the system is broken.
It is. In my area it's a 383 day wait list to see a psychiatrist/hospital psychologist (you can go private but it's $$$$). Plus if you go to the ER they don't give you much help if any at all. They night section you for 48-72 hours but you then go on the 383 day waiting list. It's totally unacceptable2 -
Nobody can pinpoint it for sure but my suspicion is that it's a multitude of factors:
1. The tendency for teenagers' amygdalas to override their not-yet-fully-developed prefrontal cortexes
2. The increase in information fluidity (social media is a part of this) gives rise to a constant state of comparisons and thus unrealistic expectations in life
3. Increase in quantity of social interaction (via social media) but decrease in quality, leading to weak and unstable social structures
4. Media sensationalization leading to the normalization of extreme behaviors such as bullying and suicide erodes traditional social norms that portray such acts as taboo3 -
robertw486 wrote: »
How many young children do you have?
Read my subsequent responses.2 -
Avocado_AS5 wrote: »Help available for mental health issues at least in the U.S. is not a priority. There are people who seek help and cannot get it and feel like this is their only way out. It's an atrocity and breaks my heart.
A friend of mine took his own life this past Sunday by hanging himself in a hotel room. He had many who loved him and tried to help. He sought help. But the system is broken.
Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry.. hugs.0 -
Nobody can pinpoint it for sure but my suspicion is that it's a multitude of factors:
1. The tendency for teenagers' amygdalas to override their not-yet-fully-developed prefrontal cortexes
2. The increase in information fluidity (social media is a part of this) gives rise to a constant state of comparisons and thus unrealistic expectations in life
3. Increase in quantity of social interaction (via social media) but decrease in quality, leading to weak and unstable social structures
4. Media sensationalization leading to the normalization of extreme behaviors such as bullying and suicide erodes traditional social norms that portray such acts as taboo
Where does the role of the parents come into play? Other than your first point, everything else seems to be an issue of them spiraling down because they continuously feel like a victim. I agree at their point of suicide they've developed a deep mental illness but there seems to be plenty of time for intervention before that.0 -
Avocado_AS5 wrote: »Help available for mental health issues at least in the U.S. is not a priority. There are people who seek help and cannot get it and feel like this is their only way out. It's an atrocity and breaks my heart.
A friend of mine took his own life this past Sunday by hanging himself in a hotel room. He had many who loved him and tried to help. He sought help. But the system is broken.
I'm so sorry for your loss. I lost a friend to suicide almost 2 years ago. It's heart breaking for the children, families and friends.0
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