Running or walking - which is best?

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  • atjays
    atjays Posts: 797 Member
    First that was an example, I said do what works for her.
    Second I said "I" based on what I know 'I' burn the same amount running or walking...I guess I don't run fast enough to reach your stated amount of twice the calories.

    I feel like I'm the same way. Equipment always estimates my calorie burn to be within 100 cals regardless if I walk or run. Naturally I run for the sake of cardio and tend to do walks for the peace and quiet but it was always weird to me.
  • dewd2
    dewd2 Posts: 2,445 Member
    saintor1 wrote: »
    vespiquenn wrote: »
    saintor1 wrote: »
    Running is much better. Don't be afraid of hurting your knees or hips.... If you have problems like this it is probably because you didn't use them enough at the first place.... using them will reinforce them.

    Holy hell, I've seen some bad advice in my years of being here, but this takes the cake.

    Well, believe what you want. Some people are just afraid to be afraid.

    When I had pain to my elbows, the recommendation from the physician/osteopath was NOT to avoid using them, but to train them *despite the pain*. And quickly to more intense effort.

    Same parallel here.

    So yes starting moderately and increasing / intensity.



    So lets say you have a stress fracture in your leg. Would you continue to "work through the pain"? Good luck to you.
  • vespiquenn
    vespiquenn Posts: 1,455 Member
    edited August 2017
    saintor1 wrote: »
    vespiquenn wrote: »
    saintor1 wrote: »
    Running is much better. Don't be afraid of hurting your knees or hips.... If you have problems like this it is probably because you didn't use them enough at the first place.... using them will reinforce them.

    Holy hell, I've seen some bad advice in my years of being here, but this takes the cake.

    Well, believe what you want. Some people are just afraid to be afraid.

    When I had pain to my elbows, the recommendation from the physician/osteopath was NOT to avoid using them, but to train them *despite the pain*. And quickly to more intense effort.

    Same parallel here.

    So yes starting moderately and increasing / intensity.



    When I had issues with my knee, my physical therapist also encouraged me to continue running due to the injury I had, at a set speed and only on a treadmill.

    ..but see the difference in these stories between OP's situation? A professional was involved. To tell someone to run through pain is horrible and reckless advice.
  • saintor1
    saintor1 Posts: 376 Member
    edited August 2017
    ..but see the difference in these stories between OP's situation? A professional was involved. To tell someone to run through pain is horrible and reckless advice.

    No it is not, and keep your little moralizing for yourself. There is pain and Pain. Sometimes, it takes courage to go to the next step and it is NOT by being afraid of pain.
  • vespiquenn
    vespiquenn Posts: 1,455 Member
    edited August 2017
    saintor1 wrote: »
    ..but see the difference in these stories between OP's situation? A professional was involved. To tell someone to run through pain is horrible and reckless advice.

    No it is not, and keep your little moralizing for yourself. There is pain and Pain. Sometimes, it takes courage to go to the next step and it is NOT by being afraid of pain.

    And how do you know the difference of OP's pain through a simplified discription and I'm assuming a lack of medical background?

    So yep, still reckless, no matter how you weakly try to rationalize.
  • saintor1
    saintor1 Posts: 376 Member
    edited August 2017
    vespiquenn wrote: »

    So yep, still reckless, no matter how you weakly try to rationalize.

    So yep, still zero courage, no matter how you weakly try to rationalize.



  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    First that was an example, I said do what works for her.

    As the originator is using C25K she's already using an interval training methodology. I take it you're not familiar with the plan? In the first couple of weeks the running intervals are in the realms of 60-90 seconds.
    Second I said "I" based on what I know 'I' burn the same amount running or walking...I guess I don't run fast enough to reach your stated amount of twice the calories.

    The formulae I stated are the standards, and based on the physics as well as sports science research. Fortunately running and walking are very well understood from a research perspective given the ease of testing.

    Mechanical efficiency of running is very different to that of walking, hence the significantly higher energy expenditure.

    Can I ask what you're measuring your calorie expenditure using? That would help understand why you think that your walking is so inefficient.
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    edited August 2017
    Purely for calorie burn, I find walking preferable because I can do it longer, do multiple sessions, do it intermittently for short periods of time, do it randomly around the house, don't need to recover as much...etc. The low impact nature of it and the flexibility makes it ideal for me in terms of calorie burn. I do run too, though. Once you are at a certain fitness level you can create greater burns through running. I can burn in one hour of continuous running (which only happens once a week) what would take me 3 or more hours to burn walking. I also like the impact part of it because it's good for my bones in the long run and the aerobic fitness and mood boost I get from it, and it doesn't hurt that I actually enjoy it.

    You mentioned back pain. Are you doing any strength exercises? Back pain can make your muscles compensate in odd ways creating weaknesses and imbalances.

    It's your choice, really. You don't have to run if you don't see a value in it for you, personally, or if you believe you wouldn't be able to sustain it. But if you choose to go for it, I strongly suggest adding strength to your routine and slowing your runs way down for starters.

    ETA: just read you have structural issues. I would very strongly recommend working with a professional to see if running is something you should be attempting at this point in the first place. It doesn't necessarily mean you will never be allowed to run (although in some cases that's sadly what happens), but you may get a "no" now and a "yes" after a while of certain drills and exercises. If you want something more gradual than C25k you could start with a simple run/walk conditioning plan that starts you with only 5 seconds of running at a time.

    http://www.jeffgalloway.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/conditioning-program-word.doc

  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    edited August 2017
    saintor1 wrote: »
    vespiquenn wrote: »

    So yep, still reckless, no matter how you weakly try to rationalize.

    So yep, still zero courage, no matter how you weakly try to rationalize.



    What's your best 50Km time?
  • VeronicaA76
    VeronicaA76 Posts: 1,116 Member
    If running is hurting you. Walk. The best exercise is the one you do and that doesn't hurt you.
  • bendyourkneekatie
    bendyourkneekatie Posts: 696 Member
    All this talk of working through pain is reminding me of a tifu post on reddit yesterday, dude worked through pain doing sit-ups and ended up deaf in one ear...
  • jpoehls9025
    jpoehls9025 Posts: 471 Member
    Youtube David Goggins, some people can work through pain and achieve greatness. You just got to be smart about the "PAIN", know your body! For me after I broke my body a few times I learned what is just my mind trying to be lazy making excuses and real pain that could lead to a inevitable injury.
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    saintor1 wrote: »
    Running is much better. Don't be afraid of hurting your knees or hips.... If you have problems like this it is probably because you didn't use them enough at the first place.... using them will reinforce them.

    Do you even run?

    While there is an element of truth to your statements (ie studies have shown that running can in fact help protect knees) to suggest that a new walker/runner exercise through the pain is simply irresponsible.

    OP I'd suggest sticking with walking for now (ignore fat burn data - it's total calories that you're interested in rather than the fuel source, FWIW you burn primarily fat while sleeping). Before starting running consider starting hip & glute strengthening exercises to address possible weaknesses / imbalances.

    Here are a couple of links that I hope you find helpful (the 2nd routine can be done a couple of times per week in a fairly short time and really help in injury resistance.

    https://runnersconnect.net/hips-hamstrings-and-glues-are-the-key-to-running-faster/

    https://runnersconnect.net/hip-strengthening-for-runners/

  • stanmann571
    stanmann571 Posts: 5,727 Member
    It's been said enough, but bears repeating.

    If it hurts... Slow down or stop... If it keeps hurting see a doctor.

    The running(hip stretches above) are great.
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