Very low carb
elizjen7
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Wondering what a good carb to protein ratio is? I've been told to stick to very low carbs and eat protein. I've tried Paleo, WW and now trying to stick with a 1200 calorie a day but I'm not losing weight.....HELP!
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Any ratio that you can happily stick to. And it is probably not that important. What is important, is that you stick to your calories. Set an appropriate calorie goal, log correctly, and hit your goal every day. Weigh yourself regularly and look at the trend over weeks and months - daily weight fluctuations can easily outweigh weekly weight loss.5
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If you're not losing weight on 1200 calories youre probably not actually eating 1200 calories- I would check your tracking and measuring method and count EVERY SINGLE THING you eat... including bites of things etc...most people WAY underestimate how much they are actually eating.12
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weight your self first thing in morning not at night. Are you working out??? or just eatting 1200 calories??? it takes time. key to it is sticking to the plain.2
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Weight loss is all about calories. You can eat high carb, low carb, high fat, high protein and anything in between for weight loss. Macro choices vary for satiety reasons......and this is an individual thing.
The VAST majority of women will lose weight at 1200 calories (this is with zero exercise). It's a default minimum to ensure women meet nutritional goals. Unless you are very petite, extremely sedentary.....and/or elderly this # should work.
Close to goal, weight loss can be as little as 1/2 pound a week. That is easily masked with water weight fluctuations. Time of month - water weight, higher sodium - water weight, sore muscles - water weight. There is your waste cycle to consider also.
How are you measuring your calorie intake? A digital food scale will be most accurate for solids. A measuring cup for liquids. Log every bite, every lick, every taste. Double check your database selections, plenty are wrong.
Edited to add* Several days of low carb will result in water weight loss (glycogen stores). This water weight will return if/when you start eating carbs again.6 -
Go get a food scale at walmart (next to the measuring cups). Log everything2
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Hi there!
I'm just a humble comment writer, but I would like to suggest something if I may.
I feel you should watch the movie 'what the health' on Netflix. Or read "the Starch solution". It'll change your current views on nutrition.
Carbs are wonderful for the human body. The more the merrier!
Carbs were labeled as the bad guys a while back when some people tried selling a joke diet and scamming peeps out of their hard earned cash.
Protein is also just a new fad people are obsessed with since the 60s. In reality, there has never been a single case of protein deficiency in anyone who was eating enough calories. Meaning: Unless you're starving to death, forget about protein.
Every food you eat besides processed fake foods, will have plenty protein. Even strawberries are 5% protein, which is about half as much as a sirloin steak, but without the heart stopping cholesterol and fat. Protein is a fad and I wish people would erase it from their memories, lol.
It's really important for your body, but you will never be deficient in it. Ever.
Plant based diets have been studied for years and years, all coming to one conclusion. It's healthy, more sustainable, kinder, and easier on the planet.
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SecularVegan wrote: »Hi there!
I'm just a humble comment writer, but I would like to suggest something if I may.
I feel you should watch the movie 'what the health' on Netflix. Or read "the Starch solution". It'll change your current views on nutrition.
Carbs are wonderful for the human body. The more the merrier!
Carbs were labeled as the bad guys a while back when some people tried selling a joke diet and scamming peeps out of their hard earned cash.
Protein is also just a new fad people are obsessed with since the 60s. In reality, there has never been a single case of protein deficiency in anyone who was eating enough calories. Meaning: Unless you're starving to death, forget about protein.
Every food you eat besides processed fake foods, will have plenty protein. Even strawberries are 5% protein, which is about half as much as a sirloin steak, but without the heart stopping cholesterol and fat. Protein is a fad and I wish people would erase it from their memories, lol.
It's really important for your body, but you will never be deficient in it. Ever.
Plant based diets have been studied for years and years, all coming to one conclusion. It's healthy, more sustainable, kinder, and easier on the planet.
"What the Health" is misleading junk science. Please stop promoting it and please stop promoting the (false) idea that a protein deficiency is impossible. Protein is not a "fad," it's a macronutrient that is essential for all of us (yes, vegans too).
Here is a science-based take on "What the Health" from a vegan RD. You may find it of interest.
https://www.vegan.com/posts/vegan-dietitian-review-what-the-health/19 -
SecularVegan wrote: »Hi there!
I'm just a humble comment writer, but I would like to suggest something if I may.
I feel you should watch the movie 'what the health' on Netflix. Or read "the Starch solution". It'll change your current views on nutrition.
Carbs are wonderful for the human body. The more the merrier!
Carbs were labeled as the bad guys a while back when some people tried selling a joke diet and scamming peeps out of their hard earned cash.
Protein is also just a new fad people are obsessed with since the 60s. In reality, there has never been a single case of protein deficiency in anyone who was eating enough calories. Meaning: Unless you're starving to death, forget about protein.
Every food you eat besides processed fake foods, will have plenty protein. Even strawberries are 5% protein, which is about half as much as a sirloin steak, but without the heart stopping cholesterol and fat. Protein is a fad and I wish people would erase it from their memories, lol.
It's really important for your body, but you will never be deficient in it. Ever.
Plant based diets have been studied for years and years, all coming to one conclusion. It's healthy, more sustainable, kinder, and easier on the planet.
Yikes... so much bad info in here.
"Protein is a new fad?" No... Protein is one of the 3 core macros that your body uses. Protein allows you to preserve more lean muscle mass while losing weight. It fuels your muscles, lowers bad cholesterol and keeps your body healthy.
Carbs are the most 'disposable' macro of the 3. Your body does not require carbs at all. If you eliminate carbs from your diet (or dip below 50g net carbs a day), your body enters a state of ketosis and begins burning fat instead. This has some nice health benefits too, and is often prescribed as an anti-seizure treatment in children. Some cultures around the world subsist on an almost purely carnivore way of eating and have excellent health.
PS - "What the Health" is propaganda garbage. Just look at the hundreds of threads about it here on the forum and you'll see what everyone thinks of it.
I'd recommend doing some better research on actual scientific websites. Examine.com is a good one, they have easily-digestible articles with plenty of references to scientific studies.9 -
Did a doctor tell you stick to very low carb? If not, then it's not necessary and since you are having trouble sticking to it, that might be a good indicator that this is not the right plan for you.
I'd suggest thinking about what type of diet you want to eat after you have lost the weight. How will you keep from gaining it back? Once you answer those questions then plan your weight loss diet around that long term diet.4 -
janejellyroll wrote: »SecularVegan wrote: »Hi there!
I'm just a humble comment writer, but I would like to suggest something if I may.
I feel you should watch the movie 'what the health' on Netflix. Or read "the Starch solution". It'll change your current views on nutrition.
Carbs are wonderful for the human body. The more the merrier!
Carbs were labeled as the bad guys a while back when some people tried selling a joke diet and scamming peeps out of their hard earned cash.
Protein is also just a new fad people are obsessed with since the 60s. In reality, there has never been a single case of protein deficiency in anyone who was eating enough calories. Meaning: Unless you're starving to death, forget about protein.
Every food you eat besides processed fake foods, will have plenty protein. Even strawberries are 5% protein, which is about half as much as a sirloin steak, but without the heart stopping cholesterol and fat. Protein is a fad and I wish people would erase it from their memories, lol.
It's really important for your body, but you will never be deficient in it. Ever.
Plant based diets have been studied for years and years, all coming to one conclusion. It's healthy, more sustainable, kinder, and easier on the planet.
"What the Health" is misleading junk science. Please stop promoting it and please stop promoting the (false) idea that a protein deficiency is impossible. Protein is not a "fad," it's a macronutrient that is essential for all of us (yes, vegans too).
Here is a science-based take on "What the Health" from a vegan RD. You may find it of interest.
https://www.vegan.com/posts/vegan-dietitian-review-what-the-health/
As I said before I had protein deficiency once and it wasn't fun6 -
singingflutelady wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »SecularVegan wrote: »Hi there!
I'm just a humble comment writer, but I would like to suggest something if I may.
I feel you should watch the movie 'what the health' on Netflix. Or read "the Starch solution". It'll change your current views on nutrition.
Carbs are wonderful for the human body. The more the merrier!
Carbs were labeled as the bad guys a while back when some people tried selling a joke diet and scamming peeps out of their hard earned cash.
Protein is also just a new fad people are obsessed with since the 60s. In reality, there has never been a single case of protein deficiency in anyone who was eating enough calories. Meaning: Unless you're starving to death, forget about protein.
Every food you eat besides processed fake foods, will have plenty protein. Even strawberries are 5% protein, which is about half as much as a sirloin steak, but without the heart stopping cholesterol and fat. Protein is a fad and I wish people would erase it from their memories, lol.
It's really important for your body, but you will never be deficient in it. Ever.
Plant based diets have been studied for years and years, all coming to one conclusion. It's healthy, more sustainable, kinder, and easier on the planet.
"What the Health" is misleading junk science. Please stop promoting it and please stop promoting the (false) idea that a protein deficiency is impossible. Protein is not a "fad," it's a macronutrient that is essential for all of us (yes, vegans too).
Here is a science-based take on "What the Health" from a vegan RD. You may find it of interest.
https://www.vegan.com/posts/vegan-dietitian-review-what-the-health/
As I said before I had protein deficiency once and it wasn't fun
Yep, it really upsets me to see statements about protein deficiency being "impossible." There are absolutely people who have protein deficiency, as well as vegans (and others) who feel awful due to not getting enough protein (but not getting to the level of actual protein deficiency).4 -
SecularVegan wrote: »Hi there!
I'm just a humble comment writer, but I would like to suggest something if I may.
I feel you should watch the movie 'what the health' on Netflix. Or read "the Starch solution". It'll change your current views on nutrition.
Carbs are wonderful for the human body. The more the merrier!
Carbs were labeled as the bad guys a while back when some people tried selling a joke diet and scamming peeps out of their hard earned cash.
Protein is also just a new fad people are obsessed with since the 60s. In reality, there has never been a single case of protein deficiency in anyone who was eating enough calories. Meaning: Unless you're starving to death, forget about protein.
Every food you eat besides processed fake foods, will have plenty protein. Even strawberries are 5% protein, which is about half as much as a sirloin steak, but without the heart stopping cholesterol and fat. Protein is a fad and I wish people would erase it from their memories, lol.
It's really important for your body, but you will never be deficient in it. Ever.
Plant based diets have been studied for years and years, all coming to one conclusion. It's healthy, more sustainable, kinder, and easier on the planet.
Ugh.....I hope that pseudo-documentaries are a fad too.........
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10588445/what-the-health
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10587026/what-the-health7 -
SecularVegan wrote: »Hi there!
I'm just a humble comment writer, but I would like to suggest something if I may.
I feel you should watch the movie 'what the health' on Netflix. Or read "the Starch solution". It'll change your current views on nutrition.
Carbs are wonderful for the human body. The more the merrier!
Carbs were labeled as the bad guys a while back when some people tried selling a joke diet and scamming peeps out of their hard earned cash.
Protein is also just a new fad people are obsessed with since the 60s. In reality, there has never been a single case of protein deficiency in anyone who was eating enough calories. Meaning: Unless you're starving to death, forget about protein.
Every food you eat besides processed fake foods, will have plenty protein. Even strawberries are 5% protein, which is about half as much as a sirloin steak, but without the heart stopping cholesterol and fat. Protein is a fad and I wish people would erase it from their memories, lol.
It's really important for your body, but you will never be deficient in it. Ever.
Plant based diets have been studied for years and years, all coming to one conclusion. It's healthy, more sustainable, kinder, and easier on the planet.
^ None of this. 100% vegan propaganda with no scientific backing.6 -
SecularVegan wrote: »Hi there!
I'm just a humble comment writer, but I would like to suggest something if I may.
I feel you should watch the movie 'what the health' on Netflix. Or read "the Starch solution". It'll change your current views on nutrition.
Carbs are wonderful for the human body. The more the merrier!
Carbs were labeled as the bad guys a while back when some people tried selling a joke diet and scamming peeps out of their hard earned cash.
Protein is also just a new fad people are obsessed with since the 60s. In reality, there has never been a single case of protein deficiency in anyone who was eating enough calories. Meaning: Unless you're starving to death, forget about protein.
Every food you eat besides processed fake foods, will have plenty protein. Even strawberries are 5% protein, which is about half as much as a sirloin steak, but without the heart stopping cholesterol and fat. Protein is a fad and I wish people would erase it from their memories, lol.
It's really important for your body, but you will never be deficient in it. Ever.
Plant based diets have been studied for years and years, all coming to one conclusion. It's healthy, more sustainable, kinder, and easier on the planet.
^ None of this. 100% vegan propaganda with no scientific backing.
So you're saying I shouldn't try to get my protein needs met by strawberries?13 -
janejellyroll wrote: »SecularVegan wrote: »Hi there!
I'm just a humble comment writer, but I would like to suggest something if I may.
I feel you should watch the movie 'what the health' on Netflix. Or read "the Starch solution". It'll change your current views on nutrition.
Carbs are wonderful for the human body. The more the merrier!
Carbs were labeled as the bad guys a while back when some people tried selling a joke diet and scamming peeps out of their hard earned cash.
Protein is also just a new fad people are obsessed with since the 60s. In reality, there has never been a single case of protein deficiency in anyone who was eating enough calories. Meaning: Unless you're starving to death, forget about protein.
Every food you eat besides processed fake foods, will have plenty protein. Even strawberries are 5% protein, which is about half as much as a sirloin steak, but without the heart stopping cholesterol and fat. Protein is a fad and I wish people would erase it from their memories, lol.
It's really important for your body, but you will never be deficient in it. Ever.
Plant based diets have been studied for years and years, all coming to one conclusion. It's healthy, more sustainable, kinder, and easier on the planet.
^ None of this. 100% vegan propaganda with no scientific backing.
So you're saying I shouldn't try to get my protein needs met by strawberries?
No problem......some 3,000 calories later. I'm too lazy to find the real number, but yeah in no way would this be practical.5 -
janejellyroll wrote: »SecularVegan wrote: »Hi there!
I'm just a humble comment writer, but I would like to suggest something if I may.
I feel you should watch the movie 'what the health' on Netflix. Or read "the Starch solution". It'll change your current views on nutrition.
Carbs are wonderful for the human body. The more the merrier!
Carbs were labeled as the bad guys a while back when some people tried selling a joke diet and scamming peeps out of their hard earned cash.
Protein is also just a new fad people are obsessed with since the 60s. In reality, there has never been a single case of protein deficiency in anyone who was eating enough calories. Meaning: Unless you're starving to death, forget about protein.
Every food you eat besides processed fake foods, will have plenty protein. Even strawberries are 5% protein, which is about half as much as a sirloin steak, but without the heart stopping cholesterol and fat. Protein is a fad and I wish people would erase it from their memories, lol.
It's really important for your body, but you will never be deficient in it. Ever.
Plant based diets have been studied for years and years, all coming to one conclusion. It's healthy, more sustainable, kinder, and easier on the planet.
^ None of this. 100% vegan propaganda with no scientific backing.
So you're saying I shouldn't try to get my protein needs met by strawberries?
I'm surprised it was strawberries instead of broccoli. Usually broccoli gets thrown out there as the "protein king" of vegan foods.
But yeah, I suppose maybe if you ate 30 or 40 pounds of strawberries a day you could maybe get semi-adequate protein intake.
(I know you're a vegan and that you know better than the woo some people throw out here on the forums)
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janejellyroll wrote: »SecularVegan wrote: »Hi there!
I'm just a humble comment writer, but I would like to suggest something if I may.
I feel you should watch the movie 'what the health' on Netflix. Or read "the Starch solution". It'll change your current views on nutrition.
Carbs are wonderful for the human body. The more the merrier!
Carbs were labeled as the bad guys a while back when some people tried selling a joke diet and scamming peeps out of their hard earned cash.
Protein is also just a new fad people are obsessed with since the 60s. In reality, there has never been a single case of protein deficiency in anyone who was eating enough calories. Meaning: Unless you're starving to death, forget about protein.
Every food you eat besides processed fake foods, will have plenty protein. Even strawberries are 5% protein, which is about half as much as a sirloin steak, but without the heart stopping cholesterol and fat. Protein is a fad and I wish people would erase it from their memories, lol.
It's really important for your body, but you will never be deficient in it. Ever.
Plant based diets have been studied for years and years, all coming to one conclusion. It's healthy, more sustainable, kinder, and easier on the planet.
^ None of this. 100% vegan propaganda with no scientific backing.
So you're saying I shouldn't try to get my protein needs met by strawberries?
I'm surprised it was strawberries instead of broccoli. Usually broccoli gets thrown out there as the "protein king" of vegan foods.
But yeah, I suppose maybe if you ate 30 or 40 pounds of strawberries a day you could maybe get semi-adequate protein intake.
(I know you're a vegan and that you know better than the woo some people throw out here on the forums)
That's the thing that these examples always leave out -- the quantity of the fruit/vegetable you'd have to eat in order to meet your minimum protein needs!
(Plus, attempting to meet your protein needs from things like strawberries and broccoli would likely result in a lysine deficiency, even if one could eat enough of the plant in question).5 -
Wondering what a good carb to protein ratio is? I've been told to stick to very low carbs and eat protein. I've tried Paleo, WW and now trying to stick with a 1200 calorie a day but I'm not losing weight.....HELP!
Check out community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group if you're interested in low carb, they're a great resource.
You may want to double check that you're accurately measuring your food when logging. A lot of people underestimate the calories that they're eating. A food scale was a big help to me when I first started logging. Low carb/high carb shouldn't make a difference when losing weight, it's the calories that matter.2 -
If you are going low carb, its not so much high protein you need but high fat (make sure its a good fat). Low carb high fat..0
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I imagine the protein in the strawberry would be in the seeds.
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Wondering what a good carb to protein ratio is? I've been told to stick to very low carbs and eat protein. I've tried Paleo, WW and now trying to stick with a 1200 calorie a day but I'm not losing weight.....HELP!
Low carb is under 100-150g of carbs per day. Very low carb is a ketogenic diet and is usually under 20-50g of carbs per day.
When carbs are dropped they are typically replaced by fat. Protein is usually kept moderate, so above the minimum needs. Typically between 70 and 150g. Approximately.
Very low carb is often 0-10% carbs, 15-30% protein, and 60-80% fat. I used 0-5% carbs, 20-25% protein and 70-75% fat.
If you do want to go higher protein, the book Protein Power might suit you. Atkins phase 1 might work for you too (the old book)1 -
SecularVegan wrote: »Hi there!
I'm just a humble comment writer, but I would like to suggest something if I may.
I feel you should watch the movie 'what the health' on Netflix. Or read "the Starch solution". It'll change your current views on nutrition.
Carbs are wonderful for the human body. The more the merrier!
Carbs were labeled as the bad guys a while back when some people tried selling a joke diet and scamming peeps out of their hard earned cash.
Protein is also just a new fad people are obsessed with since the 60s. In reality, there has never been a single case of protein deficiency in anyone who was eating enough calories. Meaning: Unless you're starving to death, forget about protein.
Every food you eat besides processed fake foods, will have plenty protein. Even strawberries are 5% protein, which is about half as much as a sirloin steak, but without the heart stopping cholesterol and fat. Protein is a fad and I wish people would erase it from their memories, lol.
It's really important for your body, but you will never be deficient in it. Ever.
Plant based diets have been studied for years and years, all coming to one conclusion. It's healthy, more sustainable, kinder, and easier on the planet.
"The more, the merrier" is just not true for everyone. Carbs of certain kinds hurt my husband's blood sugar. That's just factual. I'm not going into philosophical reasoning about protein, good & bad fats, keto, & other diets. Grain/bean. Carbs. Raise. My. Husband's. Blood. Sugar. Even when he's training for a marathon. I'm a scientist and know when to acknowledge reality.
(Plus, it's absurd to talk about strawberries and steak with respect to protein. I'd gladly eat a steak's worth of protein via strawberries except it would be about a barrelful of strawberries.)
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Wondering what a good carb to protein ratio is? I've been told to stick to very low carbs and eat protein. I've tried Paleo, WW and now trying to stick with a 1200 calorie a day but I'm not losing weight.....HELP!
What are your stats? Are you using a food scale? Are you exercising?0 -
If you use strawberries as a main source of protein, based on one small strawberry having .05 grams of protein, you would have to eat a crate of them every day. I'm a semi-vegetarian and I really struggle to meet my minimum protein macro each day. For example, my macro is 60 grams of protein per day. To meet that with strawberries, I would have to eat 1,200 strawberries each day. If you truly follow a vegan or vegetarian diet as a lifestyle over a period of years, you know that without adequate protein intake, you will start to be less energetic, lose muscle mass, etc. and you have to supplement your diet with vitamins, especially, B-12 which can only be found naturally in animal products. As for carbs, I always go over my macros, but I don't have any issues with my blood sugar (yet). My husband, on the other hand, who is not overweight, is a type II diabetic and carbs are a HUGE issue for him. Anonymous internet posters can offer advice or their own experiences, but your doctor and/or a licensed nutritionist are the best sources of information for what will be best for you.0
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Iamnotasenior wrote: »If you use strawberries as a main source of protein, based on one small strawberry having .05 grams of protein, you would have to eat a crate of them every day. I'm a semi-vegetarian and I really struggle to meet my minimum protein macro each day. For example, my macro is 60 grams of protein per day. To meet that with strawberries, I would have to eat 1,200 strawberries each day. If you truly follow a vegan or vegetarian diet as a lifestyle over a period of years, you know that without adequate protein intake, you will start to be less energetic, lose muscle mass, etc. and you have to supplement your diet with vitamins, especially, B-12 which can only be found naturally in animal products. As for carbs, I always go over my macros, but I don't have any issues with my blood sugar (yet). My husband, on the other hand, who is not overweight, is a type II diabetic and carbs are a HUGE issue for him. Anonymous internet posters can offer advice or their own experiences, but your doctor and/or a licensed nutritionist are the best sources of information for what will be best for you.
60g may be what MFP is telling you (because it's 20% of calories) but even that is probably largely inadequate while losing weight if you are working to maintain muscle. Most studies suggest 1.5 to 2.2g/kg of protein (higher if you are lean or exercise a fair amount).
And if someone is vegetarian, fruit should not be the choice of protein.0 -
Wondering what a good carb to protein ratio is? I've been told to stick to very low carbs and eat protein. I've tried Paleo, WW and now trying to stick with a 1200 calorie a day but I'm not losing weight.....HELP!
You've been told by whom to stick to very low carbs and eat protein? As is evidenced in this thread, there's a lot of misinformation and propaganda out there about how to lose weight. In order to lose weight, you need to be in a calorie deficit. My standard advice for frustrated new members on MFP:
Enter your stats, goal weight, activity level and reasonable rate of loss in MFP
MFP will calculate a calorie goal for you with a deficit built in. The goal assumes no exercise, just your activity level
Eat a variety of foods to hit that calorie target, focusing on those which provide nutrition (macro and micro nutrients), satiety (fill you up) and enjoyment (keeps you motivated to lose when you enjoy the foods you eat).
Log everything you eat as accurately and honestly as possible, ideally using a food scale.
Exercise if you enjoy it, logging and eating back a portion of those calories (since the MFP goal has no exercise built into it)
Be patient, monitor and adjust after 4-6 weeks when you determine a pattern of weight loss.
Also, read the stickies, in particular:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10260499/i-like-old-posts-and-i-cannot-lie/p1
and
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1235566/so-youre-new-here/p10
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