Sudden belly fat???
Jalsandy
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So I went back to weight training 2 months ago. I have been doing weight training on and off now for 2 years. I have a very fast metabolism, so when I stop exercising, my weight drops to a drastic level and I shrink in size, so basically my goal in the gym is to bulk up but remain tight. I am 158 cm tall and I weigh 53 kg. I work out 6 days a week, 5 days of weight training, and 1 cardio day. I eat around 1400-1500 calories a day.
So last Friday, I decided to hit the gym, but I noticed that I felt fatigued. I thought it was just all in my head, so I pushed myself through the work out. The next day I felt ok, it was abs day. So I was doing my ab exercises when I noticed that my tummy was jiggly! I have always had a tight tummy, never jiggly! There was never any fat to be seen there, and my abs were visible. But suddenly poof! Jiggly, like jelly. It's not sagging or visible when I'm standing, but I could grab it and feel the soft fat, or when I'm doing cardio, it jiggles.
People tell me it's either because I overtrained myself and didnt give my body the rest it needed when I felt fatigued, and it resulted in fat accumulating around my stomach or my ab muscles depleting and breaking down. But my only question is: Can one gain fat like that in one day of overtraining???
Some tell me that it's probably stretched skin. That day, on abs day, I did a long stretch on the stability ball. I rested my back on the ball and extended my arms, let my head and arms stretch back, thus stretching my abs. Could this loose belly have occured from overstretching? Like stretched skin or muscle?
So last Friday, I decided to hit the gym, but I noticed that I felt fatigued. I thought it was just all in my head, so I pushed myself through the work out. The next day I felt ok, it was abs day. So I was doing my ab exercises when I noticed that my tummy was jiggly! I have always had a tight tummy, never jiggly! There was never any fat to be seen there, and my abs were visible. But suddenly poof! Jiggly, like jelly. It's not sagging or visible when I'm standing, but I could grab it and feel the soft fat, or when I'm doing cardio, it jiggles.
People tell me it's either because I overtrained myself and didnt give my body the rest it needed when I felt fatigued, and it resulted in fat accumulating around my stomach or my ab muscles depleting and breaking down. But my only question is: Can one gain fat like that in one day of overtraining???
Some tell me that it's probably stretched skin. That day, on abs day, I did a long stretch on the stability ball. I rested my back on the ball and extended my arms, let my head and arms stretch back, thus stretching my abs. Could this loose belly have occured from overstretching? Like stretched skin or muscle?
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You definitely didn't gain fat in one day by overtraining. Other than that, I have no idea. Maybe the fitness forum can help?2
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MegaMooseEsq wrote: »You definitely didn't gain fat in one day by overtraining. Other than that, I have no idea. Maybe the fitness forum can help?
Thanks! I'll take it there too0 -
As you cant build up muscles in a sudden you cant get fat suddenly .. now i dont have an answer to your case but according to what u r saying why would u do any cardio ? If u r struggling to make gains and u lose size when u stop working out0
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Nah, you can't gain fat in one day. Probably nothing.
I think you should go to a full body 3 day/wk program though, with 3 or 4 rest days.
Can you describe the exercises, weights (%1RM), sets, reps please. I'm guessing you do low weights high reps to really get a good pump. Fill those suckers up with water and glycogen but don't really grow them. If that's the case, you'll do well to spread out your rep range to do some heavy 3-5 reps sets and some 8-12 mediums.0 -
if you have a very fast metabolism, why are you only eating 1400- 1500 cals?8
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As you cant build up muscles in a sudden you cant get fat suddenly .. now i dont have an answer to your case but according to what u r saying why would u do any cardio ? If u r struggling to make gains and u lose size when u stop working out
I do cardio because I had some trouble with my lungs. So a doctor advised me tl do cardio to learn how to regulate my breathing.0 -
Nah, you can't gain fat in one day. Probably nothing.
I think you should go to a full body 3 day/wk program though, with 3 or 4 rest days.
Can you describe the exercises, weights (%1RM), sets, reps please. I'm guessing you do low weights high reps to really get a good pump. Fill those suckers up with water and glycogen but don't really grow them. If that's the case, you'll do well to spread out your rep range to do some heavy 3-5 reps sets and some 8-12 mediums.
I actually go very heavy, but you're right I do go for higher reps, although I am growing in size, it's just moderate and not correspondent to the effort I put in.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »if you have a very fast metabolism, why are you only eating 1400- 1500 cals?
I swear I'm trying to eat more but that's all I can do
I try to up my calories but for that to happen I have to eat bigger portions until I throw up how can I increase mh calorie intake without feeling sick? 0 -
Nah, you can't gain fat in one day. Probably nothing.
I think you should go to a full body 3 day/wk program though, with 3 or 4 rest days.
Can you describe the exercises, weights (%1RM), sets, reps please. I'm guessing you do low weights high reps to really get a good pump. Fill those suckers up with water and glycogen but don't really grow them. If that's the case, you'll do well to spread out your rep range to do some heavy 3-5 reps sets and some 8-12 mediums.
I actually go very heavy, but you're right I do go for higher reps, although I am growing in size, it's just moderate and not correspondent to the effort I put in.
Which one? Very heavy or higher reps?4 -
TavistockToad wrote: »if you have a very fast metabolism, why are you only eating 1400- 1500 cals?
I swear I'm trying to eat more but that's all I can do I try to up my calories but for that to happen I have to eat bigger portions until I throw up how can I increase mh calorie intake without feeling sick?
you don't necessarily need more food, just food that is more calorie dense. nuts & seeds, full fat dairy, avocado etc4 -
TeacupsAndToning wrote: »Do you have photos? I just want to see what you're referring to.
I'm not sure if I can post pictures here?0 -
water retention.2
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Do you overthink the rest of your life, too? This seems like a lot of angst over a miniscule issue.6
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quiksylver296 wrote: »Do you overthink the rest of your life, too? This seems like a lot of angst over a miniscule issue.
My body. My life. My beeswax.
The fact that you're categorizing sth as "miniscule" according to your own set of personal priorities is just immature. Now is there sth scientific/medical you want to say that i can actually use? Or nah?5 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »Do you overthink the rest of your life, too? This seems like a lot of angst over a miniscule issue.
My body. My life. My beeswax.
The fact that you're categorizing sth as "miniscule" according to your own set of personal priorities is just immature. Now is there sth scientific/medical you want to say that i can actually use? Or nah?
Except you put it out here. If you want to keep it your "beeswax," maybe don't do that next time.
Having someone be so freaked out over a bit of water weight is concerning to me. It screams of all kinds of issues, starting with body dysmorphia.9 -
Except you put it out here. If you want to keep it your "beeswax," maybe don't do that next time.
Having someone be so freaked out over a bit of water weight is concerning to me. It screams of all kinds of issues, starting with body dysmorphia.[/quote]
And there you go again, telling people what to do with their business. Easy on your ego. This post was not meant for you, although it seems like you like to think it is, it's a forum where anyone and everyone can ask, including yourself who happens to have an account here and comment on people 's posts then dictate what we should or shouldn't share
mhmm ok...
You could have easily said it may be water retention. Then maybe I wouldn't feel the need to worry. Just a little bit of insight on what human beings are like, we naturally freak out over things that we can't explain. It's normal. It's even awesome. If you dont do that, then you're the kind of person who'd break an arm and dismiss it as blah and never see a doctor. That's not healthy. However, now that I know that it's water retention; aka an explanation that i can now work on solving, I will not bother your hypersensitive personality with my "miniscule" worries good day! 4 -
And there you go again, telling people what to do with their business. Easy on your ego. This post was not meant for you, although it seems like you like to think it is, it's a forum where anyone and everyone can ask, including yourself who happens to have an account here and comment on people 's posts then dictate what we should or shouldn't share mhmm ok...
You could have easily said it may be water retention. Then maybe I wouldn't feel the need to worry. Just a little bit of insight on what human beings are like, we naturally freak out over things that we can't explain. It's normal. It's even awesome. If you dont do that, then you're the kind of person who'd break an arm and dismiss it as blah and never see a doctor. That's not healthy. However, now that I know that it's water retention; aka an explanation that i can now work on solving, I will not bother your hypersensitive personality with my "miniscule" worries good day!
And it's a forum where anyone can answer, as well. Pretty sure I'm not the hypersensitive personality here.8 -
Except you put it out here. If you want to keep it your "beeswax," maybe don't do that next time.
Having someone be so freaked out over a bit of water weight is concerning to me. It screams of all kinds of issues, starting with body dysmorphia.
And there you go again, telling people what to do with their business. Easy on your ego. This post was not meant for you, although it seems like you like to think it is, it's a forum where anyone and everyone can ask, including yourself who happens to have an account here and comment on people 's posts then dictate what we should or shouldn't share mhmm ok...
You could have easily said it may be water retention. Then maybe I wouldn't feel the need to worry. Just a little bit of insight on what human beings are like, we naturally freak out over things that we can't explain. It's normal. It's even awesome. If you dont do that, then you're the kind of person who'd break an arm and dismiss it as blah and never see a doctor. That's not healthy. However, now that I know that it's water retention; aka an explanation that i can now work on solving, I will not bother your hypersensitive personality with my "miniscule" worries good day!
I agree with quiksylver's original post. Your subsequent posts scream "hypersensitive reaction to being called out on body dysmorphic thinking." There was nothing rude about her post to you. If anything, I saw it as somebody being concerned and looking past the surface level issue that you are focused on. Your initial post does continue a whole lot of woo and I can see where she was coming from. Instead of getting upset about it, you should give her words some serious thought.11 -
Except you put it out here. If you want to keep it your "beeswax," maybe don't do that next time.
Having someone be so freaked out over a bit of water weight is concerning to me. It screams of all kinds of issues, starting with body dysmorphia.
And there you go again, telling people what to do with their business. Easy on your ego. This post was not meant for you, although it seems like you like to think it is, it's a forum where anyone and everyone can ask, including yourself who happens to have an account here and comment on people 's posts then dictate what we should or shouldn't share mhmm ok...
You could have easily said it may be water retention. Then maybe I wouldn't feel the need to worry. Just a little bit of insight on what human beings are like, we naturally freak out over things that we can't explain. It's normal. It's even awesome. If you dont do that, then you're the kind of person who'd break an arm and dismiss it as blah and never see a doctor. That's not healthy. However, now that I know that it's water retention; aka an explanation that i can now work on solving, I will not bother your hypersensitive personality with my "miniscule" worries good day!
I agree with quiksylver's original post. Your subsequent posts scream "hypersensitive reaction to being called out on body dysmorphic thinking." There was nothing rude about her post to you. If anything, I saw it as somebody being concerned and looking past the surface level issue that you are focused on. Your initial post does continue a whole lot of woo and I can see where she was coming from. Instead of getting upset about it, you should give her words some serious thought.
Her comment was disrespectful. 2 sentences of judgment and a rude way of speaking, not anything of value that i can use. A concerned person with good intentions would comment with sth respectful, explaining their point of view politely, offering advice "politely". That's the kind of comment I would "think " about and "consider". However what shr said was immature *kitten*. Belongs in sixth grade class.9 -
Except you put it out here. If you want to keep it your "beeswax," maybe don't do that next time.
Having someone be so freaked out over a bit of water weight is concerning to me. It screams of all kinds of issues, starting with body dysmorphia.
And there you go again, telling people what to do with their business. Easy on your ego. This post was not meant for you, although it seems like you like to think it is, it's a forum where anyone and everyone can ask, including yourself who happens to have an account here and comment on people 's posts then dictate what we should or shouldn't share mhmm ok...
You could have easily said it may be water retention. Then maybe I wouldn't feel the need to worry. Just a little bit of insight on what human beings are like, we naturally freak out over things that we can't explain. It's normal. It's even awesome. If you dont do that, then you're the kind of person who'd break an arm and dismiss it as blah and never see a doctor. That's not healthy. However, now that I know that it's water retention; aka an explanation that i can now work on solving, I will not bother your hypersensitive personality with my "miniscule" worries good day!
I agree with quiksylver's original post. Your subsequent posts scream "hypersensitive reaction to being called out on body dysmorphic thinking." There was nothing rude about her post to you. If anything, I saw it as somebody being concerned and looking past the surface level issue that you are focused on. Your initial post does continue a whole lot of woo and I can see where she was coming from. Instead of getting upset about it, you should give her words some serious thought.
So i wouldn't go all "wow she's so concerned she gave me so much to think about." I actually felt like the onlu thing I should think about is "what is wrong with this aggressive person? Jeez"3 -
Except you put it out here. If you want to keep it your "beeswax," maybe don't do that next time.
Having someone be so freaked out over a bit of water weight is concerning to me. It screams of all kinds of issues, starting with body dysmorphia.
And there you go again, telling people what to do with their business. Easy on your ego. This post was not meant for you, although it seems like you like to think it is, it's a forum where anyone and everyone can ask, including yourself who happens to have an account here and comment on people 's posts then dictate what we should or shouldn't share mhmm ok...
You could have easily said it may be water retention. Then maybe I wouldn't feel the need to worry. Just a little bit of insight on what human beings are like, we naturally freak out over things that we can't explain. It's normal. It's even awesome. If you dont do that, then you're the kind of person who'd break an arm and dismiss it as blah and never see a doctor. That's not healthy. However, now that I know that it's water retention; aka an explanation that i can now work on solving, I will not bother your hypersensitive personality with my "miniscule" worries good day!
I agree with quiksylver's original post. Your subsequent posts scream "hypersensitive reaction to being called out on body dysmorphic thinking." There was nothing rude about her post to you. If anything, I saw it as somebody being concerned and looking past the surface level issue that you are focused on. Your initial post does continue a whole lot of woo and I can see where she was coming from. Instead of getting upset about it, you should give her words some serious thought.
One person up there in the comments simply wrote "water retention" period. See how simple, helpful and awesome that was? And I actually did my research and based some changes on it. Do people have to be rude to get their point across? What value does it give it?2 -
Except you put it out here. If you want to keep it your "beeswax," maybe don't do that next time.
Having someone be so freaked out over a bit of water weight is concerning to me. It screams of all kinds of issues, starting with body dysmorphia.
And there you go again, telling people what to do with their business. Easy on your ego. This post was not meant for you, although it seems like you like to think it is, it's a forum where anyone and everyone can ask, including yourself who happens to have an account here and comment on people 's posts then dictate what we should or shouldn't share mhmm ok...
You could have easily said it may be water retention. Then maybe I wouldn't feel the need to worry. Just a little bit of insight on what human beings are like, we naturally freak out over things that we can't explain. It's normal. It's even awesome. If you dont do that, then you're the kind of person who'd break an arm and dismiss it as blah and never see a doctor. That's not healthy. However, now that I know that it's water retention; aka an explanation that i can now work on solving, I will not bother your hypersensitive personality with my "miniscule" worries good day!
I agree with quiksylver's original post. Your subsequent posts scream "hypersensitive reaction to being called out on body dysmorphic thinking." There was nothing rude about her post to you. If anything, I saw it as somebody being concerned and looking past the surface level issue that you are focused on. Your initial post does continue a whole lot of woo and I can see where she was coming from. Instead of getting upset about it, you should give her words some serious thought.
Her comment was disrespectful. What exactly made it disrespectful to you? It was one question and one observation.
2 sentences of judgment and a rude way of speaking I wasn't speaking, I was typing without tone or inflection. How you chose to read into those two sentences, typed out, is on you.
not anything of value that i can use I disagree. Perhaps, you were overthinking and over-reacting to a minor issue and if you did some serious introspection you could find a way to handle issues like this better next time..
A concerned person with good intentions would comment with sth respectful, explaining their point of view politely, offering advice "politely". That's the kind of comment I would "think " about and "consider". However what shr said was immature *kitten*.Huh. Our definitions of immature *kitten* are obviously different.
Belongs in sixth grade class.
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Except you put it out here. If you want to keep it your "beeswax," maybe don't do that next time.
Having someone be so freaked out over a bit of water weight is concerning to me. It screams of all kinds of issues, starting with body dysmorphia.
And there you go again, telling people what to do with their business. Easy on your ego. This post was not meant for you, although it seems like you like to think it is, it's a forum where anyone and everyone can ask, including yourself who happens to have an account here and comment on people 's posts then dictate what we should or shouldn't share mhmm ok...
You could have easily said it may be water retention. Then maybe I wouldn't feel the need to worry. Just a little bit of insight on what human beings are like, we naturally freak out over things that we can't explain. It's normal. It's even awesome. If you dont do that, then you're the kind of person who'd break an arm and dismiss it as blah and never see a doctor. That's not healthy. However, now that I know that it's water retention; aka an explanation that i can now work on solving, I will not bother your hypersensitive personality with my "miniscule" worries good day!
I agree with quiksylver's original post. Your subsequent posts scream "hypersensitive reaction to being called out on body dysmorphic thinking." There was nothing rude about her post to you. If anything, I saw it as somebody being concerned and looking past the surface level issue that you are focused on. Your initial post does continue a whole lot of woo and I can see where she was coming from. Instead of getting upset about it, you should give her words some serious thought.
One person up there in the comments simply wrote "water retention" period. See how simple, helpful and awesome that was? And I actually did my research and based some changes on it. Do people have to be rude to get their point across? What value does it give it?
You appear to have found the water retention suggestion helpful because you agree with it. Body dysmorphia, on the other hand, has obviously struck a nerve with you. It's a valid concern though.9 -
Except you put it out here. If you want to keep it your "beeswax," maybe don't do that next time.
Having someone be so freaked out over a bit of water weight is concerning to me. It screams of all kinds of issues, starting with body dysmorphia.
And there you go again, telling people what to do with their business. Easy on your ego. This post was not meant for you, although it seems like you like to think it is, it's a forum where anyone and everyone can ask, including yourself who happens to have an account here and comment on people 's posts then dictate what we should or shouldn't share mhmm ok...
You could have easily said it may be water retention. Then maybe I wouldn't feel the need to worry. Just a little bit of insight on what human beings are like, we naturally freak out over things that we can't explain. It's normal. It's even awesome. If you dont do that, then you're the kind of person who'd break an arm and dismiss it as blah and never see a doctor. That's not healthy. However, now that I know that it's water retention; aka an explanation that i can now work on solving, I will not bother your hypersensitive personality with my "miniscule" worries good day!
I agree with quiksylver's original post. Your subsequent posts scream "hypersensitive reaction to being called out on body dysmorphic thinking." There was nothing rude about her post to you. If anything, I saw it as somebody being concerned and looking past the surface level issue that you are focused on. Your initial post does continue a whole lot of woo and I can see where she was coming from. Instead of getting upset about it, you should give her words some serious thought.
One person up there in the comments simply wrote "water retention" period. See how simple, helpful and awesome that was? And I actually did my research and based some changes on it. Do people have to be rude to get their point across? What value does it give it?
You appear to have found the water retention suggestion helpful because you agree with it. Body dysmorphia, on the other hand, has obviously struck a nerve with you. It's a valid concern though.
Considering the reaction, I'd say it's extremely valid...11 -
Except you put it out here. If you want to keep it your "beeswax," maybe don't do that next time.
Having someone be so freaked out over a bit of water weight is concerning to me. It screams of all kinds of issues, starting with body dysmorphia.
And there you go again, telling people what to do with their business. Easy on your ego. This post was not meant for you, although it seems like you like to think it is, it's a forum where anyone and everyone can ask, including yourself who happens to have an account here and comment on people 's posts then dictate what we should or shouldn't share mhmm ok...
You could have easily said it may be water retention. Then maybe I wouldn't feel the need to worry. Just a little bit of insight on what human beings are like, we naturally freak out over things that we can't explain. It's normal. It's even awesome. If you dont do that, then you're the kind of person who'd break an arm and dismiss it as blah and never see a doctor. That's not healthy. However, now that I know that it's water retention; aka an explanation that i can now work on solving, I will not bother your hypersensitive personality with my "miniscule" worries good day!
I agree with quiksylver's original post. Your subsequent posts scream "hypersensitive reaction to being called out on body dysmorphic thinking." There was nothing rude about her post to you. If anything, I saw it as somebody being concerned and looking past the surface level issue that you are focused on. Your initial post does continue a whole lot of woo and I can see where she was coming from. Instead of getting upset about it, you should give her words some serious thought.
One person up there in the comments simply wrote "water retention" period. See how simple, helpful and awesome that was? And I actually did my research and based some changes on it. Do people have to be rude to get their point across? What value does it give it?
You appear to have found the water retention suggestion helpful because you agree with it. Body dysmorphia, on the other hand, has obviously struck a nerve with you. It's a valid concern though.
Not really, cuz I haven't really researched what it is. Didn't bother
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quiksylver296 wrote: »Except you put it out here. If you want to keep it your "beeswax," maybe don't do that next time.
Having someone be so freaked out over a bit of water weight is concerning to me. It screams of all kinds of issues, starting with body dysmorphia.
And there you go again, telling people what to do with their business. Easy on your ego. This post was not meant for you, although it seems like you like to think it is, it's a forum where anyone and everyone can ask, including yourself who happens to have an account here and comment on people 's posts then dictate what we should or shouldn't share mhmm ok...
You could have easily said it may be water retention. Then maybe I wouldn't feel the need to worry. Just a little bit of insight on what human beings are like, we naturally freak out over things that we can't explain. It's normal. It's even awesome. If you dont do that, then you're the kind of person who'd break an arm and dismiss it as blah and never see a doctor. That's not healthy. However, now that I know that it's water retention; aka an explanation that i can now work on solving, I will not bother your hypersensitive personality with my "miniscule" worries good day!
I agree with quiksylver's original post. Your subsequent posts scream "hypersensitive reaction to being called out on body dysmorphic thinking." There was nothing rude about her post to you. If anything, I saw it as somebody being concerned and looking past the surface level issue that you are focused on. Your initial post does continue a whole lot of woo and I can see where she was coming from. Instead of getting upset about it, you should give her words some serious thought.
Her comment was disrespectful. What exactly made it disrespectful to you? It was one question and one observation.
2 sentences of judgment and a rude way of speaking I wasn't speaking, I was typing without tone or inflection. How you chose to read into those two sentences, typed out, is on you.
not anything of value that i can use I disagree. Perhaps, you were overthinking and over-reacting to a minor issue and if you did some serious introspection you could find a way to handle issues like this better next time..
A concerned person with good intentions would comment with sth respectful, explaining their point of view politely, offering advice "politely". That's the kind of comment I would "think " about and "consider". However what shr said was immature *kitten*.Huh. Our definitions of immature *kitten* are obviously different.
Belongs in sixth grade class.
Dude. I got my answer. The last thing I wanna do is try to reason with someone who doesn't belong anywhere in my life. Again. My life my beeswax. You chose to comment, now deal with the consequences. I can choose to value or devalue any comment I want. Yours was a bunch of useless crap. Some of the others' were helpful. Learn how to speak maturely or if you can't, then don't at all. Piece of cake. Move on.8 -
Definitely body dysmorphia with a little bit of water retention going on14
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quiksylver296 wrote: »Except you put it out here. If you want to keep it your "beeswax," maybe don't do that next time.
Having someone be so freaked out over a bit of water weight is concerning to me. It screams of all kinds of issues, starting with body dysmorphia.
And there you go again, telling people what to do with their business. Easy on your ego. This post was not meant for you, although it seems like you like to think it is, it's a forum where anyone and everyone can ask, including yourself who happens to have an account here and comment on people 's posts then dictate what we should or shouldn't share mhmm ok...
You could have easily said it may be water retention. Then maybe I wouldn't feel the need to worry. Just a little bit of insight on what human beings are like, we naturally freak out over things that we can't explain. It's normal. It's even awesome. If you dont do that, then you're the kind of person who'd break an arm and dismiss it as blah and never see a doctor. That's not healthy. However, now that I know that it's water retention; aka an explanation that i can now work on solving, I will not bother your hypersensitive personality with my "miniscule" worries good day!
I agree with quiksylver's original post. Your subsequent posts scream "hypersensitive reaction to being called out on body dysmorphic thinking." There was nothing rude about her post to you. If anything, I saw it as somebody being concerned and looking past the surface level issue that you are focused on. Your initial post does continue a whole lot of woo and I can see where she was coming from. Instead of getting upset about it, you should give her words some serious thought.
Her comment was disrespectful. What exactly made it disrespectful to you? It was one question and one observation.
2 sentences of judgment and a rude way of speaking I wasn't speaking, I was typing without tone or inflection. How you chose to read into those two sentences, typed out, is on you.
not anything of value that i can use I disagree. Perhaps, you were overthinking and over-reacting to a minor issue and if you did some serious introspection you could find a way to handle issues like this better next time..
A concerned person with good intentions would comment with sth respectful, explaining their point of view politely, offering advice "politely". That's the kind of comment I would "think " about and "consider". However what shr said was immature *kitten*.Huh. Our definitions of immature *kitten* are obviously different.
Belongs in sixth grade class.
Dude. I got my answer. The last thing I wanna do is try to reason with someone who doesn't belong anywhere in my life. Again. My life my beeswax. You chose to comment, now deal with the consequences. I can choose to value or devalue any comment I want. Yours was a bunch of useless crap. Some of the others' were helpful. Learn how to speak maturely or if you can't, then don't at all. Piece of cake. Move on.
Consequences? Of commenting on an internet thread?
It's been entertaining. Thanks for that.8
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