What's the point?

"The point" is different for everyone.

Sometimes you have to start by pulling a Michael Scott (yay for any Office fans out there) and say, "Do I want my life to be better, worse, or stay the same?" "The point" lies within how you answer the question.

You say you've beaten depression, but it sure isn't sounding like it. It's one thing to be lonely, it's another to not see the point in anything.

With that being said, I think I can empathize with the lack of friends though. I suffer from incredibly low self-esteem, and as a result, I always feel awkward around other adults. The real kicker is that I'm a teacher, but an elementary art teacher. I have no problems relating to kids because they often find good in everything rather than create drama like many adults. One thing that has truly helped me is literally doing the thing that terrifies me the most - take the plunge. Strike up random conversations with strangers, get out and volunteer, see if there are any meet up groups (meetup.com) in your area with your interests, invite classmates out for a drink or lunch, etc. there's a lot you can do, but the first step is taking the initiative to talk to others. I know it's easier said than done, but the worst that will happen is that they will say no and you can just move on.

But lastly, I would get a hold of your doctor to discuss what you are feeling. I will admit that despite dealing with bipolar and anxiety since my early teenage years, this summer is the first summer I have ever felt confident enough to be open towards others (and I'm 27 so many lonely years). You'd be surprised. Even this summer when I moved, when I thought I didn't have friends, I was floored by the people that offered to help move or even a coworker that stopped by to bring a welcome to the neighborhood gift. Sometimes you need extra help at no fault of your own. My saving grace was finally pursuing my adult ADHD and becoming medicated for it. I hate being medicated, and yet, I have found this to be the best thing I have ever done. Don't be afraid to ask for help where you need it, even if it's a doctor.

Good luck.

I haven't figured out the point to all my change either. I had a decent life for a while and then fell into a bad rut partly because of my "shyness". I'm not sure what types of people you run into but it sounds like you have more opportunities than you think. I couldn't go to a gym because of the way I perceived people looking at me, I dropped out of college because there were too many people around. I had to go to grocery store at odd hours just to avoid people. I eventually started drinking heavy and blocking out all of the people by being in a fog most of the time. At 37, 40 now, I quit drinking, smoking, eating poorly, and started working out, going to public places all the time, being more open to clients at my job and guess what - nothing changed. I made several changes to myself and not one of them has helped me obtain any friends, online or in real life. In fact, in over 4 years on several dating sites I haven't even got one date and that counts all the ones just looking to hookup, and I consider myself very attractive especially after going from 195 to 155. Everyone will tell you only you can change your life but what I learned is you can't make people like you. You can't make them say yes. If you want to try a therapist go for it. Mine made my life worse so there is that. Maybe you'll have better results. Are you a "nice guy"? Regardless of what anyone will tell you being "nice" does not work. I hate it. I can't help but be the good guy but it has been disastrous for me. When ever I was the "bad guy" I got the results I wanted. Find the balance in that, like if a little old lady needs help up the stairs go for it but if she needs help with her rent, draw the line. But again I hate it so I continue to be the good guy and continue to do the right things for my body even if it means I have to be alone. It is very depressing at times. To a point of some serious dangerous thoughts. You have a long way to go and plenty of opportunity to get past your shyness and anxiety. It took me way too long to get past mine. I had no help. You at least have people responding to you on here in a positive way, I couldn't get that and didn't get that when I was looking for it. When I posted things I immediately got attacked with things like- playing the victim, too bitter, etc. How bad is your anxiety? I can go in public now because when I look in the mirror I see perfection and if everyone else can't see it then *kitten* 'em, their loss. When I stop caring about the world is the only time I feel good, maybe that will work for you. You have the opportunity to try out several different methods without changing who you are. Before I walk out the door each day I remind myself that this is my world too. The point of all the change is for you, if you don't want to change then don't. I have had zero success with the changes I made as it relates to meeting people. I want to drink so bad, I want to smoke again, I want to eat whatever I want, I don't want to do the hour bike and 45min of Insanity everyday. When I did those things I did have "friends" and relationships. None of those people came with me when I decided to change my life so I know they weren't right for me. When I remember what it was like waking up drunk, breathing heavy after a flight of stairs, looking in the mirror at my fat bulbous gut I would rather be healthy and miserable and alone than unhealthy and miserable and alone. It's easy for everyone to say "just do something". They don't know what's it like though because they are happy. The most un-motivational thing I see is somebody happy telling somebody sad to just get over it and be happy. You have to find what's stopping you from achieving joy. For me it was other people. Other people steal my joy everyday. I find a way to not allow them to do that and when I sit alone at night I try to figure out how I'm going to do it the next day. Would I rather have someone with me? Absolutely. Have I had somebody to help me? Absolutely not. Will I keep trying? So far.

@Jonathanak6 Your youthful perspective is a bit incomplete. I mean, giving up without a fight is just not respectable. Get out there and fight like hell.

The day is young as are you. Take it from who did for decades: Do not waste time. The solution is very simple indeed. To have a friend, be one. Yes it is hard. There is no choice. One will die slow to fast without the company of others. You will be rejected. We all are. Get up and go again...and again. Swallow your fear, take your interest or develop one and meet others who share it. The opportunities are too easy to ignore and not hard to find.

There is no point. I wrestle with this dilemma everyday, but I'm a cynical *kitten*.

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I see so many people here hurt over a relationship ending and I haven't even had one to begin with, seems kind of annoying they can't appreciate the fact they were in one...

Trust me, being in a relationship isn't all it's cracked up to be. I love my hubby and it would take a lot to make me leave him, but I've sacrificed a lot of personal and professional growth for our relationship and it's creating a lot of conflict for us now that I've grown enough to want better of and for myself. You're in a position where you don't have to worry about others and so can focus entirely on yourself. Take advantage of it.

As for meeting people, I strongly recommend the app MeetUp. There are many groups that are focused on helping introverts get out and meet new people through different events and outings. One of the groups I'm in does biweekly hikes.

Your options are to give up or to keep fighting.
You never know what is around the corner and there is a lot more to lose in giving up.
I too struggle with depression on a daily basis, along with a multitude of other issues. I have sunk right down to the bottom and almost died as a result, but I am still here and I am still fighting because, in the end, there is nothing to be gained in giving up. Nothing. Only you can find your way out of this existential gloom and whether you choose to seek help or not, only you can put in the work to overcome your difficulties. I can guarantee that if you do persevere, you will come out a much wiser individual and will be in a position to help others who struggle similarly.