Can u check my diary?

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  • karyabc
    karyabc Posts: 830 Member
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    Good morning, Those asking for my water intake, this one daily with ice almost everyday comes home empty.

    On another note, I jump in the scale today went from 283.8 to 284.4 lbs.

    In the same note, I'm doing this together with my brother, he knows nothing about mfp, calorie counting, cero weigh food, cero exercise and every week consistly 3-4lbs less. Dont bother explain the why, I know why and every week its the same, "sis I told u, you taking things to extreme"

    My daddy today, well I keep telling you should eat lettuce, lettuce its water and stop those shakes, thats making you gain weight".

    Ugh.

  • karyabc
    karyabc Posts: 830 Member
    In terms of your diary, though, I would note that it does not look like you are actually weighing your snacks - those could be one place where calories are adding up. Prepackaged stuff is often much larger than the estimated portion, and nutrition labels can be off up to 20% in the US, but you can at least compare the weight to the grams listed. Also, to be super blunt (since you asked for advice), if you weight 283 lbs I assume that you weren't eating anything remotely like this a month ago - you're really setting yourself up for failure if you try to make a bunch of drastic changes all at once, and there are many ways you might be sabotaging yourself that someone on the internet would never be able to guess. I mean, maybe you really love eating brown rice and chicken breasts and broccoli, but unless you were eating truly massive portions of those before, I'm guessing you're trying to follow a very restrictive diet that isn't likely to be sustainable.

    DON'T BELIEVE THIS. It's doable trust me. You're only setting yourself up for failure if you believe you are. I can't believe people tell other people this. If you're serious about this drastic change it will turn out in your favour!

    I started at 230lbs. I have been on MFP for 72 days and have lost 40 pounds. Drastic worked for me and maybe it'll work for you. But IF you listen to people telling you you will FAIL, THEN you will. Believe in yourself.

    P.S. Drink LOTS of water

    This is my day #48 and nowhere close to your lost. For you to lost 40 pounds in 72 days, that comes like 4lbs per week, I dont know what you call drastic, I thought I was already drastic enough, mfp says 1400 and hang around in 1250-1300 or so and I'm 50+ pounds heavy than when you started.

    But congrats on your lost anyway, glad to see you found what works for you.
  • bizgirl26
    bizgirl26 Posts: 1,795 Member
    I agree that you should be eating more for numerous reasons. Remember that eventually as you lose weight you will need to lower your calories. If they are already low to begin with you may find that it is really hard to stick with and may end up falling off the wagon. It is easier to start higher and slowly cut then try to later and feel like you are starving. Also for your weight they should be higher. MFP set my weight at 1200 as I have a desk job. I started around 1800 and still eat around 1500-1600 a day and I have less than 100 pounds than you do . We are all anxious to lose quickly but it is about making changes to last a lifetime.

    Also things like nuts can really add up in the calorie dept if you aren't weighing them. It can be hard but start with a few favourites and portion them out ahead of time so you don't have to do it everyday

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  • collectingblues
    collectingblues Posts: 2,541 Member
    Pepsab wrote: »
    How much water do you drink? Perhaps you need to increase this. Ive completely changed my diet and although it hasnt been long the weight is not dropping off so now ill add in the walking.

    That's what I was just about to post. (Well, the water part, at least.) I was shocked to see what I was *actually* drinking in a day compared to what a woman of my weight is supposed to drink. I've started seeing a new dietitian, and she concurred that skimping on the hydration will lead to more water retention.
  • whosshe
    whosshe Posts: 597 Member
    Look, there might be people out there who lost weight eating nothing but grapefruit and lemon water for months, AND somehow have managed to keep it off for years. There are lots of fish in the sea. But we know for a fact that the vast, vast majority of people who lose weight via crash diets fail because they treat dieting as a one time, extreme thing, and then regain the weight - and generally some more than where they started - as soon as they accomplish their weight loss goal, assuming that they even can maintain that extreme deficit long enough to get to their goal in the first place. I believe that telling someone to lose weight as quickly as possible by any means necessary without considering how they will maintain their lower weight is deeply irresponsible.

    Not sure why you think 1400 is a crash diet. MFP gives me a 1200 calorie goal. I eat awesome filling meals I just choose lower calorie options of everything. At my final goal weight my maintenance cals will be about 1700. That's only 500 calories more. So ya, this is for life.

    You're right, if you're treating it as a one time thing then it won't stick. So don't treat it like that?

    Before I started here I was eating probably 3000+ calories a day. So if you would have told me to just "cut out that one piece of pizza" I still would have been gaining weight. Why is it so wrong to go right to eating what you're supposed to be eating and not take baby steps?
    You're plenty drastic enough--weight loss ease varies from person to person. The person you're responding to just seems extra proud of her numbers and anxious to talk about them.

    I'm sorry. I thought this was the place to be extra proud and anxious to talk about results. Or am I not on a weightloss forum?
  • candilc9
    candilc9 Posts: 21 Member
    Measure your waist!!! When you start exercising, that darn scale will throw you off!!! Measure, measure, measure! My weight goes up and down, but my clothes fit differently. You're not trying to loose just weight, you're trying to lose fat! There's a difference. The scale doesn't always show that. Also link an Accupedo app to your phone if you don't wear a pedometer, then link that to MFP, aim for 7000 to 10,000 steps a day. Dance, walk in place while watching videos, just keep moving! Watch your macros, try to get all that protein in. I throw either 100% whey or organic plant based protein in my coffee with some cashew or almond milk if my protein is low for the day. I have some horrible cheat days...but still losing. You can do it! You can look at my diary if you want.
  • MommaGem2017
    MommaGem2017 Posts: 405 Member
    Look, there might be people out there who lost weight eating nothing but grapefruit and lemon water for months, AND somehow have managed to keep it off for years. There are lots of fish in the sea. But we know for a fact that the vast, vast majority of people who lose weight via crash diets fail because they treat dieting as a one time, extreme thing, and then regain the weight - and generally some more than where they started - as soon as they accomplish their weight loss goal, assuming that they even can maintain that extreme deficit long enough to get to their goal in the first place. I believe that telling someone to lose weight as quickly as possible by any means necessary without considering how they will maintain their lower weight is deeply irresponsible.

    Not sure why you think 1400 is a crash diet. MFP gives me a 1200 calorie goal. I eat awesome filling meals I just choose lower calorie options of everything. At my final goal weight my maintenance cals will be about 1700. That's only 500 calories more. So ya, this is for life.

    You're right, if you're treating it as a one time thing then it won't stick. So don't treat it like that?

    Before I started here I was eating probably 3000+ calories a day. So if you would have told me to just "cut out that one piece of pizza" I still would have been gaining weight. Why is it so wrong to go right to eating what you're supposed to be eating and not take baby steps?
    You're plenty drastic enough--weight loss ease varies from person to person. The person you're responding to just seems extra proud of her numbers and anxious to talk about them.

    I'm sorry. I thought this was the place to be extra proud and anxious to talk about results. Or am I not on a weightloss forum?

    The advice against really drastic changes is because, most people, after they make super drastic changes to their diets, get super hungry or tired, aren't losing up to high expectations, and eventually just quit. If she can eat more and still lose weight at a healthy rate, then she should. It leads to a more sustainable change in the long run. I don't eat lo-cal, sugar free everything, because I dont like it and I won't keep eating it at maintenance. I eat foods I like, but a more modest portion. If the OP can eat more than 1400 caps and still lose at a reasonable rate, then why shouldn't she?

    Of course we want to cheer and share our successes, but insisting that all others disregard sound advice and do it just like you did it is going to be met with resistance.
  • whosshe
    whosshe Posts: 597 Member
    You're plenty drastic enough--weight loss ease varies from person to person. The person you're responding to just seems extra proud of her numbers and anxious to talk about them.

    I'm sorry. I thought this was the place to be extra proud and anxious to talk about results. Or am I not on a weightloss forum?

    Sure, and you're in someone else's thread who's having a hard time. What better place to rub in your statistically exceptional results? I mean, it's not like there's a "success stories" section or the ability to start your own thread.

    And I didn't respond to you for a reason. I responded to the OP because you made her feel like she wasn't doing enough.

    Please refer to the comment above yours. It was used as an example, it was never intended to make her feel like she wasn't doing enough. It was meant to say HEY ITS POSSIBLE DESPITE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS THREAD IS SAYING. So it's rude to tell her to believe in herself, but it's perfectly fine to tell her she is going to fail? This is a twisted thread and I'm over it.

    I'm sorry @karyabc if I at any point made you feel like you weren't doing enough. Believe in yourself, this is YOUR journey.
  • whosshe
    whosshe Posts: 597 Member
    You're plenty drastic enough--weight loss ease varies from person to person. The person you're responding to just seems extra proud of her numbers and anxious to talk about them.

    I'm sorry. I thought this was the place to be extra proud and anxious to talk about results. Or am I not on a weightloss forum?

    Sure, and you're in someone else's thread who's having a hard time. What better place to rub in your statistically exceptional results? I mean, it's not like there's a "success stories" section or the ability to start your own thread.

    And I didn't respond to you for a reason. I responded to the OP because you made her feel like she wasn't doing enough.

    Please refer to the comment above yours. It was used as an example, it was never intended to make her feel like she wasn't doing enough. It was meant to say HEY ITS POSSIBLE DESPITE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS THREAD IS SAYING. So it's rude to tell her to believe in herself, but it's perfectly fine to tell her she is going to fail? This is a twisted thread and I'm over it.

    I'm sorry @karyabc if I at any point made you feel like you weren't doing enough. Believe in yourself, this is YOUR journey.

    I just went through this thread again and people were encouraging her, advising her to be patient, and giving advise. There was the one post you objected to and that turned into "DESPITE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS THREAD IS SAYING."

    OP is doing just fine. She's feeling positive and I'm sure she'll succeed.

    Sure, I told her not to believe "you're really setting yourself up for failure if you try to make a bunch of drastic changes all at once, and there are many ways you might be sabotaging yourself that someone on the internet would never be able to guess. I mean, maybe you really love eating brown rice and chicken breasts and broccoli, but unless you were eating truly massive portions of those before, I'm guessing you're trying to follow a very restrictive diet that isn't likely to be sustainable." and then after that I somehow became a terrible person lol.

    Do you speak for OP?
  • karyabc
    karyabc Posts: 830 Member
    bizgirl26 wrote: »
    I agree that you should be eating more for numerous reasons. Remember that eventually as you lose weight you will need to lower your calories. If they are already low to begin with you may find that it is really hard to stick with and may end up falling off the wagon. It is easier to start higher and slowly cut then try to later and feel like you are starving. Also for your weight they should be higher. MFP set my weight at 1200 as I have a desk job. I started around 1800 and still eat around 1500-1600 a day and I have less than 100 pounds than you do . We are all anxious to lose quickly but it is about making changes to last a lifetime.

    Also things like nuts can really add up in the calorie dept if you aren't weighing them. It can be hard but start with a few favourites and portion them out ahead of time so you don't have to do it everyday

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    Hi, I did my numbers, started from zero, opened a new account here at mfp, put my stats, 5'5 284.4lbs female sedentary, it's saying I should lose 2 pounds per week with 1520 calories per day, go figure lol!
    Also was reading for the last half an hour about water, used some online calculators, none gave me the exact amount but I found Mayo clinic formula, did the math and says 132oz of water.

    I'm going to eat and drink according to that, on Saturday going to sign up to the gym, I want to go at least 30 mins 4-5 days/week. With my weight should be easy to burn some extra calories and sounds like the smart thing to do.

    *OP kinda cry her heart out between yesterday and today and will not give up. nutuh!
  • karyabc
    karyabc Posts: 830 Member
    You're plenty drastic enough--weight loss ease varies from person to person. The person you're responding to just seems extra proud of her numbers and anxious to talk about them.

    I'm sorry. I thought this was the place to be extra proud and anxious to talk about results. Or am I not on a weightloss forum?

    Sure, and you're in someone else's thread who's having a hard time. What better place to rub in your statistically exceptional results? I mean, it's not like there's a "success stories" section or the ability to start your own thread.

    And I didn't respond to you for a reason. I responded to the OP because you made her feel like she wasn't doing enough.

    Please refer to the comment above yours. It was used as an example, it was never intended to make her feel like she wasn't doing enough. It was meant to say HEY ITS POSSIBLE DESPITE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS THREAD IS SAYING. So it's rude to tell her to believe in herself, but it's perfectly fine to tell her she is going to fail? This is a twisted thread and I'm over it.

    I'm sorry @karyabc if I at any point made you feel like you weren't doing enough. Believe in yourself, this is YOUR journey.

    No worries, I believe you'll here with good intentions! If what you're doing works for you and doesn't affect your health in a bad manner, go for it :smile:
  • sympha01
    sympha01 Posts: 942 Member
    edited August 2017
    It's only been < 3 weeks, so don't worry. Bear in mind that WEIGHT LOSS is not actually the same as FAT LOSS. Especially in the first weeks when you change your diet, your weight can fluctuate down (AND UP!) based on non-fat related body changes (water retention from sodium, water retention in the intestine). You can be losing fat (based on a consistent caloric deficit) w/o seeing a comparable change in weight. Over the long term it evens out, but it does make monitoring based on the scale tricky.

    I looked at your diary and assuming accuracy it looks pretty good. You could get more vegetables. Personally, I also have a preference for using generic / usda entries for unprocessed items instead of name brands (looking at you, EGGS). Cuts down on a lot of marketing BS that makes its way into labels (food labels are not actually required to be hyper accurate and some of them know some tricks to make their numbers look a little better). If it's unprocessed, generic / usda is best.

    Also, I don't see any problems but since you're a relative MFP newbie I'll mention: be sure to use the appropriate cooked / raw or cooked / dry database entry based on when you weighed your food. If you weighed your meat raw, use a "raw" entry, if you weighed it cooked, use a "cooked" entry. Generally speaking weighing raw will yield more consistent results but it is not always the most convenient so do what you gotta do. But I cannot believe the number of people I see on here who log 1/4 cup of rice or oats and use a "cooked" entry when they measured it dry -- that's roughly a 50% under log calorie mistake! (Meat goes in the other direction: if you weigh it cooked and log it "raw" you under log). FWIW it's not that preparing the food changes its nutrient composition, it's that preparing the food changes its weight. So 3 oz of cooked chicken is actually a lot more chicken than 3 oz of raw chicken. 1/4 cup or 40g of dry oats becomes 1/2 cup or 100g of cooked oats (roughly). Etc.

    A big weight thing that affects many people starting out with any dietary change is ... um ... retention of ... um ... stuff ... in your intestines. Really hides progress on the scale sometimes. It can take a while for that to settle down. Be patient, be consistent. Consider drinking more low-sodium beverages (eg. water, tea), and make sure you're getting the recommended amount of fiber in your diet on a consistent basis. If you're far from your fiber goals, change your intake gradually to avoid ... distress. I'd recommend tracking fiber instead of sugar unless you have a medically diagnosed special problem with sugar.

    lol edited b/c mfp tried to change my < 3 into a heart emoji
  • laurabadams
    laurabadams Posts: 201 Member
    edited August 2017
    In terms of your diary, though, I would note that it does not look like you are actually weighing your snacks - those could be one place where calories are adding up. Prepackaged stuff is often much larger than the estimated portion, and nutrition labels can be off up to 20% in the US, but you can at least compare the weight to the grams listed. Also, to be super blunt (since you asked for advice), if you weight 283 lbs I assume that you weren't eating anything remotely like this a month ago - you're really setting yourself up for failure if you try to make a bunch of drastic changes all at once, and there are many ways you might be sabotaging yourself that someone on the internet would never be able to guess. I mean, maybe you really love eating brown rice and chicken breasts and broccoli, but unless you were eating truly massive portions of those before, I'm guessing you're trying to follow a very restrictive diet that isn't likely to be sustainable.

    DON'T BELIEVE THIS. It's doable trust me. You're only setting yourself up for failure if you believe you are. I can't believe people tell other people this. If you're serious about this drastic change it will turn out in your favour!

    I started at 230lbs. I have been on MFP for 72 days and have lost 40 pounds. Drastic worked for me and maybe it'll work for you. But IF you listen to people telling you you will FAIL, THEN you will. Believe in yourself.

    P.S. Drink LOTS of water

    Lol...around 20%*** of people who lose 10% or more of their body weight maintain that loss for 5 years or more, in large part because they employ "drastic" crash diet techniques that are unsustainable.

    Edited to fix a significant typo in my statistic...here's a link for good measure:

    http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/82/1/222S.long

  • Kim_S_G
    Kim_S_G Posts: 120 Member
    Forgive me if this has already been brought up..... I have about a week and a half out of every month that I do not show any weight loss. (due to water retention) This is a few days leading up to TOM and the first few day of. Maybe you are experiencing the same thing.
  • whosshe
    whosshe Posts: 597 Member
    edited August 2017
    jospen83 wrote: »
    In terms of your diary, though, I would note that it does not look like you are actually weighing your snacks - those could be one place where calories are adding up. Prepackaged stuff is often much larger than the estimated portion, and nutrition labels can be off up to 20% in the US, but you can at least compare the weight to the grams listed. Also, to be super blunt (since you asked for advice), if you weight 283 lbs I assume that you weren't eating anything remotely like this a month ago - you're really setting yourself up for failure if you try to make a bunch of drastic changes all at once, and there are many ways you might be sabotaging yourself that someone on the internet would never be able to guess. I mean, maybe you really love eating brown rice and chicken breasts and broccoli, but unless you were eating truly massive portions of those before, I'm guessing you're trying to follow a very restrictive diet that isn't likely to be sustainable.

    DON'T BELIEVE THIS. It's doable trust me. You're only setting yourself up for failure if you believe you are. I can't believe people tell other people this. If you're serious about this drastic change it will turn out in your favour!

    I started at 230lbs. I have been on MFP for 72 days and have lost 40 pounds. Drastic worked for me and maybe it'll work for you. But IF you listen to people telling you you will FAIL, THEN you will. Believe in yourself.

    P.S. Drink LOTS of water

    Lol...around 20%*** of people who lose 10% or more of their body weight maintain that loss for 5 years or more, in large part because they employ "drastic" crash diet techniques that are unsustainable.

    Edited to fix a significant typo in my statistic...here's a link for good measure:

    http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/82/1/222S.long

    "Results of random digit dial surveys indicate that ≈20% of people in the general population are successful at long-term weight loss maintenance. These data, along with findings from the National Weight Control Registry, underscore the fact that it is possible to achieve and maintain significant amounts of weight loss.

    Findings from the registry suggest six key strategies for long-term success at weight loss: 1) engaging in high levels of physical activity; 2) eating a diet that is low in calories and fat; 3) eating breakfast; 4) self-monitoring weight on a regular basis; 5) maintaining a consistent eating pattern; and 6) catching “slips” before they turn into larger regains. Initiating weight loss after a medical event may also help facilitate long-term weight control.

    Additional studies are needed to determine the factors responsible for registry participants' apparent ability to adhere to these strategies for a long period of time in the context of a “toxic” environment that strongly encourages passive overeating and sedentary lifestyles."

    I wasn't talking about "crash diets". 1200-1400 calories is not a crash diet. I don't understand. Nowhere in that paper does it even mention crash diets.

    "The single best predictor of risk of regain was how long participants had successfully maintained their weight loss. Individuals who had kept their weight off for 2 y or more had markedly increased odds of continuing to maintain their weight over the following year. This finding is encouraging because it suggests that, if individuals can succeed at maintaining their weight loss for 2 y, they can reduce their risk of subsequent regain by nearly 50%.

    Another predictor of successful weight loss maintenance was a lower level of dietary disinhibition, which is a measure of periodic loss of control of eating. Participants who had fewer problems with disinhibition [ie, scores <6 on the Eating Inventory subscale (14)] were 60% more likely to maintain their weight over 1 y. Similar findings were found for depression, with lower levels of depression related to greater odds of success. These findings point to the importance of both emotional regulation skills and control over eating in long-term successful weight loss."

    Were you agreeing with me or disagreeing?
  • karyabc
    karyabc Posts: 830 Member
    sympha01 wrote: »
    It's only been < 3 weeks, so don't worry. Bear in mind that WEIGHT LOSS is not actually the same as FAT LOSS. Especially in the first weeks when you change your diet, your weight can fluctuate down (AND UP!) based on non-fat related body changes (water retention from sodium, water retention in the intestine). You can be losing fat (based on a consistent caloric deficit) w/o seeing a comparable change in weight. Over the long term it evens out, but it does make monitoring based on the scale tricky.

    I looked at your diary and assuming accuracy it looks pretty good. You could get more vegetables. Personally, I also have a preference for using generic / usda entries for unprocessed items instead of name brands (looking at you, EGGS). Cuts down on a lot of marketing BS that makes its way into labels (food labels are not actually required to be hyper accurate and some of them know some tricks to make their numbers look a little better). If it's unprocessed, generic / usda is best.

    Also, I don't see any problems but since you're a relative MFP newbie I'll mention: be sure to use the appropriate cooked / raw or cooked / dry database entry based on when you weighed your food. If you weighed your meat raw, use a "raw" entry, if you weighed it cooked, use a "cooked" entry. Generally speaking weighing raw will yield more consistent results but it is not always the most convenient so do what you gotta do. But I cannot believe the number of people I see on here who log 1/4 cup of rice or oats and use a "cooked" entry when they measured it dry -- that's roughly a 50% under log calorie mistake! (Meat goes in the other direction: if you weigh it cooked and log it "raw" you under log). FWIW it's not that preparing the food changes its nutrient composition, it's that preparing the food changes its weight. So 3 oz of cooked chicken is actually a lot more chicken than 3 oz of raw chicken. 1/4 cup or 40g of dry oats becomes 1/2 cup or 100g of cooked oats (roughly). Etc.

    A big weight thing that affects many people starting out with any dietary change is ... um ... retention of ... um ... stuff ... in your intestines. Really hides progress on the scale sometimes. It can take a while for that to settle down. Be patient, be consistent. Consider drinking more low-sodium beverages (eg. water, tea), and make sure you're getting the recommended amount of fiber in your diet on a consistent basis. If you're far from your fiber goals, change your intake gradually to avoid ... distress. I'd recommend tracking fiber instead of sugar unless you have a medically diagnosed special problem with sugar.

    lol edited b/c mfp tried to change my < 3 into a heart emoji

    Hi good morning, yeah I weigh my meat cooked, I track my fiber before but I was always pretty much over the 25g goal, that and sugar are the easiest thing for me. Oats too whatever amount dry for sure, peanuts 28g too, I'm going to take it easy this rest of the week, keep logging and no worry about the scale that today went even up to 284.8lbs btw, Im kinda laughing about at this point cause God knows how good I am and how many calories I have left day after day!

    I'm going to get a fitbit later to get motivated for the exercise part, and prep a weekly menu too see how it goes from there.

    I'll be back in couple of weeks and give updates.

    Txs for the help
  • karyabc
    karyabc Posts: 830 Member
    Kim_S_G wrote: »
    Forgive me if this has already been brought up..... I have about a week and a half out of every month that I do not show any weight loss. (due to water retention) This is a few days leading up to TOM and the first few day of. Maybe you are experiencing the same thing.

    Yeah I totally get it, I have like 10 days of the month that I know its pointless lol, the 2 days before TOM, 5 days in TOM and like 2-3 days its disaster of how much water I retain and how blow I am. The only thing I can say while I'm TOM its that I really feel like iukkk with food thats when I eat the lower amount of cals.

    Txs for stoping by :smile: