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Which animal is the most fit?
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CynthiasChoice wrote: »Do you think the sloth is more fit than most humans?
How long do you think you could hang upside down from a tree branch while sleeping?
Not longer than a sloth, I'm sure. LOL!
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Packerjohn wrote: »Without our brains we would have been extinct a long time ago
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Probably so. Even w/a brain, arguably less adaptable than ours, so went the Neanderthals.
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Even in the best shape, human beings are the least "fit" of all living things by almost any means of measurement or comparison.
Our only "advantage" comes from how we use our brains to overcome our physical deficiencies. Otherwise, we'd be very low on the food chain.
You can get a bit of variation in VO2 max if you change your diet.... Eat more like a sled dog. LCD vs higher carb diet.
Diet can offer some advantage if measuring fitness by VO2 max.
From the FASTER study:
http://www.vespapower.com/the-emerging-science-on-fat-adaptation/5 -
VO2 isn't the only important thing. Since humans have the ability to shed heat through sweat and other critters don't, humans are effective hunters. Prey tire before we do.1
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Indeed. I tracked down some eggs and oatmeal just this morning. They can't outrun me.5
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That vicious egg was chilling after a runny start, or some such mixed pun of metaphorical insignificance.5
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Even in the best shape, human beings are the least "fit" of all living things by almost any means of measurement or comparison.
Our only "advantage" comes from how we use our brains to overcome our physical deficiencies. Otherwise, we'd be very low on the food chain.
You can get a bit of variation in VO2 max if you change your diet.... Eat more like a sled dog. LCD vs higher carb diet. Diet can offer some advantage if measuring fitness by VO2 max.
From the FASTER study:
http://www.vespapower.com/the-emerging-science-on-fat-adaptation/
A vote for flying pigs!2 -
Even in the best shape, human beings are the least "fit" of all living things by almost any means of measurement or comparison.
Our only "advantage" comes from how we use our brains to overcome our physical deficiencies. Otherwise, we'd be very low on the food chain.
You can get a bit of variation in VO2 max if you change your diet.... Eat more like a sled dog. LCD vs higher carb diet. Diet can offer some advantage if measuring fitness by VO2 max.
From the FASTER study:
http://www.vespapower.com/the-emerging-science-on-fat-adaptation/
It doesn't readily translate into performance in all cases, though, because low carb can impair exercise economy.
Http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1113/JP273230/abstract
I would give the feats of strength to the blue whale in terms of gross strength. I was fascinated with them as a child.2 -
Ants: The carpenter ant can lift 1,000 times it's body weight. That's the equivalent of a 180lb person lifting a Boeing 747!!! Now that's heavy lifting.3
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Even in the best shape, human beings are the least "fit" of all living things by almost any means of measurement or comparison.
Our only "advantage" comes from how we use our brains to overcome our physical deficiencies. Otherwise, we'd be very low on the food chain.
You can get a bit of variation in VO2 max if you change your diet.... Eat more like a sled dog. LCD vs higher carb diet. Diet can offer some advantage if measuring fitness by VO2 max.
From the FASTER study:
http://www.vespapower.com/the-emerging-science-on-fat-adaptation/
Except that the study you quoted doesn't say what you think it says. They weren't studying V02 max as a function of diet. They didn't measure fitness by V02 max. They were studying fat oxidation at 64% of V02 max.
And last I checked most MFP members aren't sled dogs.3 -
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Even in the best shape, human beings are the least "fit" of all living things by almost any means of measurement or comparison.
Our only "advantage" comes from how we use our brains to overcome our physical deficiencies. Otherwise, we'd be very low on the food chain.
Even a human with the intelligence of a raccoon could outdo a 'possum. Or a raccoon for that matter.1 -
Even in the best shape, human beings are the least "fit" of all living things by almost any means of measurement or comparison.
Our only "advantage" comes from how we use our brains to overcome our physical deficiencies. Otherwise, we'd be very low on the food chain.
You can get a bit of variation in VO2 max if you change your diet.... Eat more like a sled dog. LCD vs higher carb diet. Diet can offer some advantage if measuring fitness by VO2 max.
From the FASTER study:
http://www.vespapower.com/the-emerging-science-on-fat-adaptation/
Except that the study you quoted doesn't say what you think it says. They weren't studying V02 max as a function of diet. They didn't measure fitness by V02 max. They were studying fat oxidation at 64% of V02 max.
And last I checked most MFP members aren't sled dogs.
Just threw it out there to point out that VO2 max is not THE measure of fitness. It is just one part of it. The men tested were all about equally fit elite endurance athletes.
What about insects? Those things can migrate thousands of kilometres and their strength is impressive. Monarch butterfly? Ants?2 -
Let's pretend for a moment that this was actually true, (but you, I and the rest of the people reading this thread know it's not what you actually meant when you posted this study) the FASTER study didn't show "VO2 max is not THE measure of fitness, " as they were not comparing measures of fitness.Even in the best shape, human beings are the least "fit" of all living things by almost any means of measurement or comparison.
Our only "advantage" comes from how we use our brains to overcome our physical deficiencies. Otherwise, we'd be very low on the food chain.
You can get a bit of variation in VO2 max if you change your diet.... Eat more like a sled dog. LCD vs higher carb diet. Diet can offer some advantage if measuring fitness by VO2 max.
From the FASTER study:
http://www.vespapower.com/the-emerging-science-on-fat-adaptation/
Except that the study you quoted doesn't say what you think it says. They weren't studying V02 max as a function of diet. They didn't measure fitness by V02 max. They were studying fat oxidation at 64% of V02 max.
And last I checked most MFP members aren't sled dogs.
Just threw it out there to point out that VO2 max is not THE measure of fitness. It is just one part of it. The men tested were all about equally fit elite endurance athletes.
So let's be honest and take a look at what you originally posted about the faster study:
Hmm... Seems to me you're really trying to imply that a keto diet can increase your V02 max. And that the FASTER study supports that. Which it doesn't.You can get a bit of variation in VO2 max if you change your diet.... Eat more like a sled dog. LCD vs higher carb diet. Diet can offer some advantage if measuring fitness by VO2 max.4 -
Let's pretend for a moment that this was actually true, (but you, I and the rest of the people reading this thread know it's not what you actually meant when you posted this study) the FASTER study didn't show "VO2 max is not THE measure of fitness, " as they were not comparing measures of fitness.Even in the best shape, human beings are the least "fit" of all living things by almost any means of measurement or comparison.
Our only "advantage" comes from how we use our brains to overcome our physical deficiencies. Otherwise, we'd be very low on the food chain.
You can get a bit of variation in VO2 max if you change your diet.... Eat more like a sled dog. LCD vs higher carb diet. Diet can offer some advantage if measuring fitness by VO2 max.
From the FASTER study:
http://www.vespapower.com/the-emerging-science-on-fat-adaptation/
Except that the study you quoted doesn't say what you think it says. They weren't studying V02 max as a function of diet. They didn't measure fitness by V02 max. They were studying fat oxidation at 64% of V02 max.
And last I checked most MFP members aren't sled dogs.
Just threw it out there to point out that VO2 max is not THE measure of fitness. It is just one part of it. The men tested were all about equally fit elite endurance athletes.
So let's be honest and take a look at what you originally posted about the faster study:
Hmm... Seems to me you're really trying to imply that a keto diet can increase your V02 max. And that the FASTER study supports that. Which it doesn't.You can get a bit of variation in VO2 max if you change your diet.... Eat more like a sled dog. LCD vs higher carb diet. Diet can offer some advantage if measuring fitness by VO2 max.
I said diet can cause variation in VO2 Max. If vo2 Max is your measure of fitness, then it would look like being fat adapted helps you use energy longer/better. I did not say that is how you measure fitness.
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Let's pretend for a moment that this was actually true, (but you, I and the rest of the people reading this thread know it's not what you actually meant when you posted this study) the FASTER study didn't show "VO2 max is not THE measure of fitness, " as they were not comparing measures of fitness.Even in the best shape, human beings are the least "fit" of all living things by almost any means of measurement or comparison.
Our only "advantage" comes from how we use our brains to overcome our physical deficiencies. Otherwise, we'd be very low on the food chain.
You can get a bit of variation in VO2 max if you change your diet.... Eat more like a sled dog. LCD vs higher carb diet. Diet can offer some advantage if measuring fitness by VO2 max.
From the FASTER study:
http://www.vespapower.com/the-emerging-science-on-fat-adaptation/
Except that the study you quoted doesn't say what you think it says. They weren't studying V02 max as a function of diet. They didn't measure fitness by V02 max. They were studying fat oxidation at 64% of V02 max.
And last I checked most MFP members aren't sled dogs.
Just threw it out there to point out that VO2 max is not THE measure of fitness. It is just one part of it. The men tested were all about equally fit elite endurance athletes.
So let's be honest and take a look at what you originally posted about the faster study:
Hmm... Seems to me you're really trying to imply that a keto diet can increase your V02 max. And that the FASTER study supports that. Which it doesn't.You can get a bit of variation in VO2 max if you change your diet.... Eat more like a sled dog. LCD vs higher carb diet. Diet can offer some advantage if measuring fitness by VO2 max.
I said diet can cause variation in VO2 Max. If vo2 Max is your measure of fitness, then it would look like being fat adapted helps you use energy longer/better. I did not say that is how you measure fitness.
And @johnwelk pointed out that the study does not show that.
I'd also note that a discussion about which animal is the most fit has nothing to do with whether or not keto has an effect on VO2 Max. So if your point was that VO2 Max can be affected by diet, it was off topic and comes across as yet another hijacking of a thread by the church of ketology.4 -
Agree about the rudeness of having a fun and educational thread hijacked by keto preaching. I also don't appreciate false info bring presented as if it were real.4
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Let's pretend for a moment that this was actually true, (but you, I and the rest of the people reading this thread know it's not what you actually meant when you posted this study) the FASTER study didn't show "VO2 max is not THE measure of fitness, " as they were not comparing measures of fitness.Even in the best shape, human beings are the least "fit" of all living things by almost any means of measurement or comparison.
Our only "advantage" comes from how we use our brains to overcome our physical deficiencies. Otherwise, we'd be very low on the food chain.
You can get a bit of variation in VO2 max if you change your diet.... Eat more like a sled dog. LCD vs higher carb diet. Diet can offer some advantage if measuring fitness by VO2 max.
From the FASTER study:
http://www.vespapower.com/the-emerging-science-on-fat-adaptation/
Except that the study you quoted doesn't say what you think it says. They weren't studying V02 max as a function of diet. They didn't measure fitness by V02 max. They were studying fat oxidation at 64% of V02 max.
And last I checked most MFP members aren't sled dogs.
Just threw it out there to point out that VO2 max is not THE measure of fitness. It is just one part of it. The men tested were all about equally fit elite endurance athletes.
So let's be honest and take a look at what you originally posted about the faster study:
Hmm... Seems to me you're really trying to imply that a keto diet can increase your V02 max. And that the FASTER study supports that. Which it doesn't.You can get a bit of variation in VO2 max if you change your diet.... Eat more like a sled dog. LCD vs higher carb diet. Diet can offer some advantage if measuring fitness by VO2 max.
I said diet can cause variation in VO2 Max. If vo2 Max is your measure of fitness, then it would look like being fat adapted helps you use energy longer/better. I did not say that is how you measure fitness.
Your still wrong, no matter how many times you repeat it, it still won't say what you want it to say. So either you were purposely trying to mislead us and got caught, or you just don't understand what you read but thought it somehow agreed with your fixed narrative and decided post it anyway. Either way it doesn't make you look good and your best bet is stop digging yourself in deeper and fess up.3 -
What about keto + vitamin D?1
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