Cooked meat.
Knightride48
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Does anyone know any restaurant or any place in the continental U.S. that has types of meat like chicken, pork, beef, salmon or tuna where without any doubt that their meat that they use to cook is unprocessed meat, the meat a person would find at the grocery store meat selection that has no added salt, smokeflavoring or nitrates/celery to the meat b4 cooking the meat for the dish/entree that the meat ends in up as cooked?
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You will have to find a private or locally owned place. All of your chain places buy in bulk. It's actually unfortunate that a lot of state put very very strict regulations on where they get their meat from. If you lived in Washington State I could recommend a few places that sell fresh sea food without a menu because it depends on what they caught that day.0
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What is your concern about the meat? Why "any restaurant in the continental US"? Chain restaurants are probably not going to satisfy your criteria.
Your best option is to look for a "farm to table" type place near you and ask them your question about how they handle their meat.10 -
Any reputable chef is likely to season their meat with salt and pepper, or add salt during cooking, so I'd say they're all out.
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Unless you're eating at some pretty crappy restaurants, the meat will be as good, if not better, than supermarket meat.
It will generally be seasoned with salt and pepper before cooking, unless you ask for it not to be (if you're ordering meat cooked to order, that is).1 -
Is it okay if they pound their meat or would that be considered processed?6
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There is a local restaurant not too far from where I live that only uses locally raised meats and local produce in season. It's in a pretty small town. I imagine if you look around for locally owned restaurants you could find one similar in your area.2
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snickerscharlie wrote: »Is it okay if they pound their meat or would that be considered processed?
If you want to get that technical, you can consider hacking it off the cow/pig/chicken carcass "processing".4 -
@knightride48 there are many places like this farm to table or even locally owned. I would suggest calling the restaurant you would like to eat at before you go and ask the chef these questions. They will probably be more expensive then going to an Applebees or Longhorn. @JenHuedy I was thinking the same thing lol.2
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Knightride48 wrote: »What is your concern about the meat? Why "any restaurant in the continental US"? Chain restaurants are probably not going to satisfy your criteria.
Your best option is to look for a "farm to table" type place near you and ask them your question about how they handle their meat.
Because I want to avoid cancer,
That's not how it works.9 -
Knightride48 wrote: »What is your concern about the meat? Why "any restaurant in the continental US"? Chain restaurants are probably not going to satisfy your criteria.
Your best option is to look for a "farm to table" type place near you and ask them your question about how they handle their meat.
Because I want to avoid cancer,
If you violated all of those things your risk of cancer might increase from 5% to 5.01%. The math looks scary when they tell you a percentage of increased risk, but when you actually apply the math it's not even a notable rise.3 -
Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »What is your concern about the meat? Why "any restaurant in the continental US"? Chain restaurants are probably not going to satisfy your criteria.
Your best option is to look for a "farm to table" type place near you and ask them your question about how they handle their meat.
Because I want to avoid cancer,
If you violated all of those things your risk of cancer might increase from 5% to 5.01%. The math looks scary when they tell you a percentage of increased risk, but when you actually apply the math it's not even a notable rise.
But its still a increased risk. I heard processed meats are like breathing in asbetbos and smoking, and everyone except children SMOKING IS BAD.
No. Just no. All the time, a weekly new demon for you. Trying to walk this absurdly narrow path you have created for yourself based on scaremongering is kind of sad. Sit down and decide if a .001% increase is worth all this extra stress. Stress increases your risk of heart disease more than eating meat. You stress yourself out over tiny details of health that are nearly irrelevant.7 -
Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »What is your concern about the meat? Why "any restaurant in the continental US"? Chain restaurants are probably not going to satisfy your criteria.
Your best option is to look for a "farm to table" type place near you and ask them your question about how they handle their meat.
Because I want to avoid cancer,
If you violated all of those things your risk of cancer might increase from 5% to 5.01%. The math looks scary when they tell you a percentage of increased risk, but when you actually apply the math it's not even a notable rise.
But its still a increased risk. I heard processed meats are like breathing in asbetbos and smoking, and everyone except children SMOKING IS BAD.
No. Just no. All the time, a weekly new demon for you. Trying to walk this absurdly narrow path you have created for yourself based on scaremongering is kind of sad. Sit down and decide if a .001% increase is worth all this extra stress. Stress increases your risk of heart disease more than eating meat. You stress yourself out over tiny details of health that are nearly irrelevant.
Scaremongering?
Yes. That is the goal of news articles. Clickbait titles to make you freak out and read them. Go apply the math, go read the studies. Cherry picking garbage. Every week you have some new thing you are afraid of and that's absolutely no way to live. You'll die just like everyone else and all you accomplished is working harder to live life less fully.5 -
I would suggest not eating anything or drinking anything then, because almost every thing has a risk of cancer depending on what ridiculous site you get your info from.3
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Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »What is your concern about the meat? Why "any restaurant in the continental US"? Chain restaurants are probably not going to satisfy your criteria.
Your best option is to look for a "farm to table" type place near you and ask them your question about how they handle their meat.
Because I want to avoid cancer,
If you violated all of those things your risk of cancer might increase from 5% to 5.01%. The math looks scary when they tell you a percentage of increased risk, but when you actually apply the math it's not even a notable rise.
But its still a increased risk. I heard processed meats are like breathing in asbetbos and smoking, and everyone except children SMOKING IS BAD.
No. Just no. All the time, a weekly new demon for you. Trying to walk this absurdly narrow path you have created for yourself based on scaremongering is kind of sad. Sit down and decide if a .001% increase is worth all this extra stress. Stress increases your risk of heart disease more than eating meat. You stress yourself out over tiny details of health that are nearly irrelevant.
This has to be true https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/general-info/known-and-probable-human-carcinogens.html
Want to take a guess how many of those you came in contact with today?
If you walked outside and took a breath of unfiltered air you came in contact with about 20 of them. Did you touch a door that leads from outside to inside? Did you use a public bathroom? Did you touch money or hand your card to someone who handles money? Do you wear sunscreen at all times? Do you ever use hand sanitizer?
Unless you are willing to live life like a germaphobe you increase your risk every day. The risk associate with eating meat was at a very high weekly amount, and the impact over years of eating that way had an increased risk of what essentially amounts to a fraction of a percent.3 -
That list doesn't even rank them by risk level, or amount of exposure needed. And it points out that some things put you at higher risk of one cancer, and lower of another. And the "processed meats" that they refer to are things treated with nitrates/nitrites.Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »What is your concern about the meat? Why "any restaurant in the continental US"? Chain restaurants are probably not going to satisfy your criteria.
Your best option is to look for a "farm to table" type place near you and ask them your question about how they handle their meat.
Because I want to avoid cancer,
If you violated all of those things your risk of cancer might increase from 5% to 5.01%. The math looks scary when they tell you a percentage of increased risk, but when you actually apply the math it's not even a notable rise.
But its still a increased risk. I heard processed meats are like breathing in asbetbos and smoking, and everyone except children SMOKING IS BAD.
No. Just no. All the time, a weekly new demon for you. Trying to walk this absurdly narrow path you have created for yourself based on scaremongering is kind of sad. Sit down and decide if a .001% increase is worth all this extra stress. Stress increases your risk of heart disease more than eating meat. You stress yourself out over tiny details of health that are nearly irrelevant.
This has to be true https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/general-info/known-and-probable-human-carcinogens.html
I hope you don't live in California. Pretty much everything is labeled as possibly causing cancer- even untreated 4x4s. While science is getting more advanced, it's still not sure of the causes of all cancers, and some of these things are just so common that many people who come down with cancer have used them and they haven't been ruled out. Correlation does not equal causation.
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Did you know asbestos exists in nature? You are exposed to all those things on that list at some point. If you are predisposed to cancer, you will get it, regardless. Plus, that article stated that the tests that they do is in huge concentration on animals - usually rats - that no normal human would consume, so just because it causes cancer in animals, doesn't mean it will in humans. But go ahead and continue to be terrified of eating some meat because that is far more enjoyable than not worrying about it, and living and enjoying your life.
ETA: and I am not a "sir" and no, I don't live in the UK.2 -
Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »What is your concern about the meat? Why "any restaurant in the continental US"? Chain restaurants are probably not going to satisfy your criteria.
Your best option is to look for a "farm to table" type place near you and ask them your question about how they handle their meat.
Because I want to avoid cancer,
If you violated all of those things your risk of cancer might increase from 5% to 5.01%. The math looks scary when they tell you a percentage of increased risk, but when you actually apply the math it's not even a notable rise.
But its still a increased risk. I heard processed meats are like breathing in asbetbos and smoking, and everyone except children SMOKING IS BAD.
No. Just no. All the time, a weekly new demon for you. Trying to walk this absurdly narrow path you have created for yourself based on scaremongering is kind of sad. Sit down and decide if a .001% increase is worth all this extra stress. Stress increases your risk of heart disease more than eating meat. You stress yourself out over tiny details of health that are nearly irrelevant.
This has to be true https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/general-info/known-and-probable-human-carcinogens.html
Want to take a guess how many of those you came in contact with today?
If you walked outside and took a breath of unfiltered air you came in contact with about 20 of them. Did you touch a door that leads from outside to inside? Did you use a public bathroom? Did you touch money or hand your card to someone who handles money? Do you wear sunscreen at all times? Do you ever use hand sanitizer?
Unless you are willing to live life like a germaphobe you increase your risk every day. The risk associate with eating meat was at a very high weekly amount, and the impact over years of eating that way had an increased risk of what essentially amounts to a fraction of a percent.
It's 18 percent for colorectal cancer, that s pretty huge margin, slamming to me..
18% additional risk? That's your current risk multiplied by 1.18. So if you have a 5% risk you now have 5.9%. Maths.10 -
Knightride48 wrote: »musicfan68 wrote: »Did you know asbestos exists in nature? You are exposed to all those things on that list at some point. If you are predisposed to cancer, you will get it, regardless. Plus, that article stated that the tests that they do is in huge concentration on animals - usually rats - that no normal human would consume, so just because it causes cancer in animals, doesn't mean it will in humans. But go ahead and continue to be terrified of eating some meat because that is far more enjoyable than not worrying about it, and living and enjoying your life.
ETA: and I am not a "sir" and no, I don't live in the UK.
Well I just don't want the "c" word, Mann.
I still believe the site is telling the truth.
So you don't like what someone is saying and it's a woman so you want to call them a nasty word? Men get a free pass and you'll use a respectful term?3 -
Why?Knightride48 wrote: »
That list doesn't even rank them by risk level, or amount of exposure needed. And it points out that some things put you at higher risk of one cancer, and lower of another. And the "processed meats" that they refer to are things treated with nitrates/nitrites.Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »What is your concern about the meat? Why "any restaurant in the continental US"? Chain restaurants are probably not going to satisfy your criteria.
Your best option is to look for a "farm to table" type place near you and ask them your question about how they handle their meat.
Because I want to avoid cancer,
If you violated all of those things your risk of cancer might increase from 5% to 5.01%. The math looks scary when they tell you a percentage of increased risk, but when you actually apply the math it's not even a notable rise.
But its still a increased risk. I heard processed meats are like breathing in asbetbos and smoking, and everyone except children SMOKING IS BAD.
No. Just no. All the time, a weekly new demon for you. Trying to walk this absurdly narrow path you have created for yourself based on scaremongering is kind of sad. Sit down and decide if a .001% increase is worth all this extra stress. Stress increases your risk of heart disease more than eating meat. You stress yourself out over tiny details of health that are nearly irrelevant.
This has to be true https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/general-info/known-and-probable-human-carcinogens.html
I hope you don't live in California. Pretty much everything is labeled as possibly causing cancer- even untreated 4x4s. While science is getting more advanced, it's still not sure of the causes of all cancers, and some of these things are just so common that many people who come down with cancer have used them and they haven't been ruled out. Correlation does not equal causation.
Wait it doesn't have to be at a rank, it's the idea of being classified in the same list asbetbos,
And asbestos depends on the form. Most types aren't that dangerous because they can't get in the air and into your lungs. I'm not worried about the tiles hidden under the laminate in my house.
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Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »musicfan68 wrote: »Did you know asbestos exists in nature? You are exposed to all those things on that list at some point. If you are predisposed to cancer, you will get it, regardless. Plus, that article stated that the tests that they do is in huge concentration on animals - usually rats - that no normal human would consume, so just because it causes cancer in animals, doesn't mean it will in humans. But go ahead and continue to be terrified of eating some meat because that is far more enjoyable than not worrying about it, and living and enjoying your life.
ETA: and I am not a "sir" and no, I don't live in the UK.
Well I just don't want the "c" word, Mann.
I still believe the site is telling the truth.
So you don't like what someone is saying and it's a woman so you want to call them a nasty word? Men get a free pass and you'll use a respectful term?
The c word is cancer.
You may want to talk to a therapist before you end up with severe orthorexia.8
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