I need encouragement

Moondoggie9155
Moondoggie9155 Posts: 16 Member
edited November 21 in Health and Weight Loss
I could use some others experience and hope. I am going on my 4th week and I keep losing and gaining the same 2 lbs. I do have hashimotos but my numbers are good. And I am perimenopausal but really hate to blame it on that. I have kept to 1200 occasionally 1500 calories with some mild exercise. I use to be a binge eater consuming yes...anywhere from 3000-5000 calories several times a week if not daily. So I guess I would have thought since I no longer binge the weight would start to come off a little quicker than this. I am grateful to no longer binge but man this is frustrating. I don't need to be told what I am doing wrong. I know how to eat healthy and exercise. I was very athletic and fit at one point in my life. What I need are peoples experiences of hope and finally starting to lose weight after a stall either in the beginning or the middle. :)

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  • Muscleflex79
    Muscleflex79 Posts: 1,917 Member
    "eating healthy and exercise" mean nothing for weight loss...are you eating at a deficit and weighing all your food?
  • Moondoggie9155
    Moondoggie9155 Posts: 16 Member
    edited September 2017
    1200-1500 calories with exercise I would hope is a deficit. I can't go lower than that it isn't healthy.
  • AllSpiceNice
    AllSpiceNice Posts: 120 Member
    Why just "hope" you're in a deficit? Have you entered your stats in MFP? What calorie goal did it give you? Do you weigh and log all the food/liquids you consume?

    Doing this is what got me through a stall, got me to goal weight, and in maintenance for 2 years. :-)
  • Muscleflex79
    Muscleflex79 Posts: 1,917 Member
    so I'm guessing that is a 'no' - you aren't weighing your food and just guessing and hoping you are in a deficit?
  • kbmnurse
    kbmnurse Posts: 2,484 Member
    The encouragement must come from within. Pray.
  • Moondoggie9155
    Moondoggie9155 Posts: 16 Member
    so I'm guessing that is a 'no' - you aren't weighing your food and just guessing and hoping you are in a deficit?

    Actually I am along with logging consistently and not eating my exercise calories back. I was looking for people's encouragement and personal experiences with stalled weight loss.
    I have a call into an old personal trainer for guidance and feedback. They know me better. Thx anyway
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    so I'm guessing that is a 'no' - you aren't weighing your food and just guessing and hoping you are in a deficit?

    Actually I am along with logging consistently and not eating my exercise calories back. I was looking for people's encouragement and personal experiences with stalled weight loss.
    I have a call into an old personal trainer for guidance and feedback. They know me better. Thx anyway

    Why would you not eat back exercise cals if you're using MFP cals?
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  • cheryldumais
    cheryldumais Posts: 1,907 Member
    edited September 2017
    I have gone through the stalls. It does pass. I'm not sure if you are on the first 4 weeks or if it is just 4 weeks you have been stalled. I went through a 6 week+ plateau. I too got the posts that I was eating more than I thought I was or wasn't measuring or keeping track correctly. I was doing what I had always done and had lost. It did eventually pass. What helped me the most was going to maintenance calories for a week. I know it makes absolutely no sense at all and I understand the concept of CICO (calories in/calories out). All I can tell you is what I experienced. I had lost about 70 pounds and just couldn't get past that point. A diet break helped. It reset my resolve and it also seemed to shake up my body to finally let go of what perhaps was water? I have no idea but am now down 88 pounds and counting. Don't give up. Take your measurements and if you have been dieting a long time consider a break at maintenance calories. I'm not talking about a binge I'm talking about a few hundred extra calories for a short time. Good luck.
  • kristen8000
    kristen8000 Posts: 747 Member
    Unfortunatlely, we could be your cheerleaders and support you every step of the way, but when it comes down to it, you have to want to want it.

    Seems to me that you aren't consistent and you just "guessing". First step is stop the guessing. Log everything you eat, accurately (as in weighing portions). Get used to being 100% truthful (you said something about eating between 1200-1500, sounds like you really aren't sure). I can tell you that yesterday, without a shadow of a doubt I ate 1273 calories. Because I logged it, weighing everything I ate. Everything. I can tell you exactly how many calories I've eaten for the last 40 days, except 1. And they've all been at a deficient. And I've lost 9lbs, with 3-5 to go. So the proof is in the pudding.

    You state you know what to do - well then, do it. It's all about finding that fire that keeps driving you to your goal and going and getting it. If you aren't "ready", then wait it out. I feel weight loss is 100% mental. You HAVE to be in the right place mentally. And you can't depend on anyone else.
  • Moondoggie9155
    Moondoggie9155 Posts: 16 Member
    I have gone through the stalls. It does pass. I'm not sure if you are on the first 4 weeks or if it is just 4 weeks you have been stalled. I went through a 6 week+ plateau. I too got the posts that I was eating more than I thought I was or wasn't measuring or keeping track correctly. I was doing what I had always done and had lost. It did eventually pass. What helped me the most was going to maintenance calories for a week. I know it makes absolutely no sense at all and I understand the concept of CICO (calories in/calories out). All I can tell you is what I experienced. I had lost about 70 pounds and just couldn't get past that point. A diet break helped. It reset my resolve and it also seemed to shake up my body to finally let go of what perhaps was water? I have no idea but am now down 88 pounds and counting. Don't give up. Take your measurements and if you have been dieting a long time consider a break at maintenance calories. I'm not talking about a binge I'm talking about a few hundred extra calories for a short time. Good luck.

    Thx you that helps.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    OP, you can totally do this, but a food scale is going to be your best friend. Weigh everything, log everything, enjoy your success!

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  • cheryldumais
    cheryldumais Posts: 1,907 Member
    You are more than welcome! We seem to have alot of folks on here who always react to a question like this with the assumption that you are doing something wrong. That is sometimes the case but not always. I was fortunate enough to have someone reach out and offer a solution to me at the beginning of this year when I was feeling frustrated and helpless for the same reason as you. As a bonus it worked. Don't give up. Weight loss is often up and down and the closer you get to goal the more that happens. Last year I lost 70 pounds this year I have lost 18, lol. I'm only 5 pounds away from goal so it is really slow going. But it's going! Cheers.
  • hesn92
    hesn92 Posts: 5,966 Member
    I've gone thru periods where my weight will stay the same, go down and then back up for several weeks, and then it seems all those random pounds will drop off finally all at once lol. Just be persistent and don't give up. That flow chart is helpful.
  • Silentpadna
    Silentpadna Posts: 1,306 Member
    What helped me the most was going to maintenance calories for a week. I know it makes absolutely no sense at all and I understand the concept of CICO (calories in/calories out). All I can tell you is what I experienced. I had lost about 70 pounds and just couldn't get past that point. A diet break helped. It reset my resolve and it also seemed to shake up my body to finally let go of what perhaps was water? I have no idea but am now down 88 pounds and counting.

    This actually does make some sense. When you are in a deficit for a long period of time, it stresses your body, and your body produces cortisol - which signals you body to hold water. "Refeeds" or eating at maintenance for a short period can help your body "reset" in that sense. I think this is mostly anecdotal, but doing that has worked for many people. I am, by no means an expert on this, but there is some correlation out there that suggests this possibility. Not claiming it as fact, but as we know the body is much more complex than our simple tools suggest. The estimates we use generally work, but they are simplifications of a process with many moving parts and variables.

    As to the OP's post, these are your best friends:

    1. Time
    2. Trust in the process
    3. Practice and observation
    4. Fact-based decisions (not emotional ones)
    5. Time.
    6. Did I mention time?


    And by "time", I really mean patience.

  • Moondoggie9155
    Moondoggie9155 Posts: 16 Member
    What helped me the most was going to maintenance calories for a week. I know it makes absolutely no sense at all and I understand the concept of CICO (calories in/calories out). All I can tell you is what I experienced. I had lost about 70 pounds and just couldn't get past that point. A diet break helped. It reset my resolve and it also seemed to shake up my body to finally let go of what perhaps was water? I have no idea but am now down 88 pounds and counting.

    This actually does make some sense. When you are in a deficit for a long period of time, it stresses your body, and your body produces cortisol - which signals you body to hold water. "Refeeds" or eating at maintenance for a short period can help your body "reset" in that sense. I think this is mostly anecdotal, but doing that has worked for many people. I am, by no means an expert on this, but there is some correlation out there that suggests this possibility. Not claiming it as fact, but as we know the body is much more complex than our simple tools suggest. The estimates we use generally work, but they are simplifications of a process with many moving parts and variables.

    As to the OP's post, these are your best friends:

    1. Time
    2. Trust in the process
    3. Practice and observation
    4. Fact-based decisions (not emotional ones)
    5. Time.
    6. Did I mention time?


    And by "time", I really mean patience.

    Thx you!
  • Mkneedtogetfit
    Mkneedtogetfit Posts: 93 Member
    Here's my story if it helps, I had a baby in January and I was 93kg after delivery. I am 5 feet tall. So, that's a lot of weight. I have had hypothyroidism for years which makes it hard for me to lose weight. I couldn't walk for a km without huffing and puffing. I have a massive appetite. So, I knew I couldn't stick to diet plans. Initially 8th April, I started with small steps i.e.

    1.Have 3 balanced meals - small carb, 100g protein and lots of veggies + 2 snacks fruit/veg 5times a week and allowed myself treats on weekends. I WEIGHED carbs and protein on a kitchen scale.(can't stress this enough)
    2. I joined the gym and for the first week I only walked for 30 mins on the treadmill.
    3. I weighed weekly but didn't expect to lose weight
    4. I did not count calories
    5. MY AIM was to change my lifestyle and making healthier choices.

    After 40days, I had lost 3.5kg and had built some stamina. So,
    2. Started squats, lunges, dead slams, chest press
    3. Same food as above
    4. I started losing a kg every week

    After 2 months since start,
    1. Started weight training and a HIIT class once a week
    2. Still didn't count calories

    After 3 months, my weight loss slowed down. So , instead of cheat days over weekends, I moved to 1 cheat meal a week.

    After 4 months, I had to reduce my carb portions at night to get over a plateau.

    August - ate like a horse due to family coming over from overseas

    September - started calorie counting to get over another plateau.

    During this journey, I started cooking a lot more. I wanted to make food exciting yet nutritious. I am a foodie and if I don't like what I eat, I'll never stick to it.

    In total, I have lost 28kg so far. I have another 7kg to go.

    What I have learnt so far,
    1. I enjoy strength training. It has made me stronger and energetic
    2. Enjoy your workouts and your food. If the relationship with either is bad, it makes the weight loss journey much harder.
    3. Experiment with food - strike a balance between nutritional value and enjoyability and make it fun
    4. Strive for a change in lifestyle rather than weight loss. You will lose weight on the way regardless.

    I am still not perfect and have my high and lows but I don't feel sad about weight anymore.

  • Mkneedtogetfit
    Mkneedtogetfit Posts: 93 Member
    Just to add - Strength training helped me the most. This is because hypothyroidism caused metabolism to slow down which makes it harder to lose weight. Strength training improves muscle tone. More muscles means you burn more calories at resting state. My BMR increased. My thyroxine dose has reduced by half
  • LiftHeavyThings27105
    LiftHeavyThings27105 Posts: 2,086 Member
    @Mkneedtogetfit - AMEN! First healthy, then fit. Make this a lifestyle change.....the rest will follow! Just be patient and put yourself in a great position to succeed! And, show up every day.....
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