The Honor Code?
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Oh c'mon this isn't rocket science. If you want to cook a new recipe and want to know what the nutritional value is just weigh everything in grams and then look it up, I do it for any new recipe and takes a few mins not two hours.
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Ouch. Soz if my post came off nasty. I'll be the first to say I am not tech savvy, and it takes me ages. Kudos to those who have the techy skills0 -
I'm logging my food as honestly as possible, but with some things, it's almost impossible to know exactly how many calories I'm consuming. Example: I marinated some raw chicken tender strips and bell peppers. The marinade included oil. I cooked maybe 3 oz of the chicken and two handfuls of veggies. Them I had mashed sweet potatoes made with garlic and cream cheese. Since sweet potatoes vary in size, I went by what MFP and gave myself the highest calorie count because of the cream cheese and the varying sizes of the sweet potatoes. I think y'all get my point. Anyone having a similar issue? What do you do to keep the 'honor code'?
Why aren't you weighing these things? Why guess when you can weigh and know?
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If you weigh, you never have to guess or estimate.5
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I weigh as much as I can if I need to track closely. If my weight's coming off as expected, I slack on the weighing, but it's the first thing I do if weight starts to creep up again. You may not be able to weigh cooking oil absorbed in food easily, but it's simple to toss the chicken or sweet potato on a scale as you cook. I keep a notepad and a pen by my scale and note as I cook.
Then I weigh the finished entree and my portion to figure out what percentage of the dish I'm eating.
Heck, using the tare function it's really easy to weigh even things like how much peanut butter you put on your sandwich (funnily, I'd been OVER estimating that one).
It doesn't have to be all or nothing, just do what you can.2 -
I found the "recipes" tab in the food calculator to be helpful when making a large dish like your sweet potatoes. For example, I made a large bowl of guacamole. I weighed each ingredient on my digital scale (in grams). Then I weighed the whole bowl when I was done(minus the weight of the bowl). The recipe calculator let's you divide the whole recipe into number of servings. So my 408g bowl of guac has 4x 102g servings, and MFP did all the calorie and macro calculations for me. I just weighed my portions. Hope that helps a little.4
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I'm logging my food as honestly as possible, but with some things, it's almost impossible to know exactly how many calories I'm consuming. Example: I marinated some raw chicken tender strips and bell peppers. The marinade included oil. I cooked maybe 3 oz of the chicken and two handfuls of veggies. Them I had mashed sweet potatoes made with garlic and cream cheese. Since sweet potatoes vary in size, I went by what MFP and gave myself the highest calorie count because of the cream cheese and the varying sizes of the sweet potatoes. I think y'all get my point. Anyone having a similar issue? What do you do to keep the 'honor code'?
Why aren't you weighing these things? Why guess when you can weigh and know?
Yea I should've weighed. I was being lazy. After reading the responses, I need to weigh as much as possible. I guess with the oil is what I was questioning. I need a digital scale too to become more accurate. No excuses.9 -
I'm logging my food as honestly as possible, but with some things, it's almost impossible to know exactly how many calories I'm consuming. Example: I marinated some raw chicken tender strips and bell peppers. The marinade included oil. I cooked maybe 3 oz of the chicken and two handfuls of veggies. Them I had mashed sweet potatoes made with garlic and cream cheese. Since sweet potatoes vary in size, I went by what MFP and gave myself the highest calorie count because of the cream cheese and the varying sizes of the sweet potatoes. I think y'all get my point. Anyone having a similar issue? What do you do to keep the 'honor code'?
Why aren't you weighing these things? Why guess when you can weigh and know?
Yea I should've weighed. I was being lazy. After reading the responses, I need to weigh as much as possible. I guess with the oil is what I was questioning. I need a digital scale too to become more accurate. No excuses.
Well, you mentioned an awful lot of different things in the OP. I'm not surprised that no one picked up that it was the oil in the marinade you were most concerned about.
If you're really worried about the oil in the marinade, weighing is the best and easiest way of figuring out how much oil is ending up in the chicken you cooked. Weigh the oil you use and the total amount of marinade before adding the chicken. (This is assuming everything else in the marinade is fairly insignificant when it comes to calories -- water, vinegar, spices, herbs. If you're adding sugar, barbecue sauce, etc., you're going to have to account for those too.) Then weigh the marinade that's left when you remove the chicken. Do the math. But honestly, compared to inaccuracies from not weighing stuff in general, worrying about the exact amount of calories you're getting from oil in marinade is probably a relatively minor issue.5 -
I don't even bother logging marinades. It's not like you're chugging it. Most of it cooks out.4
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Yup, weigh anything that isn't liquid.
I always find it bizarre (and kind of hysterical) that people imply that weighing everything will take hours and is some big imposition. It adds literally seconds.4 -
Why aren't you weighing these things? Why guess when you can weigh and know?
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Yea I should've weighed. I was being lazy. After reading the responses, I need to weigh as much as possible. I guess with the oil is what I was questioning. I need a digital scale too to become more accurate. No excuses.[/quote]
Hooray for OP! Seriously! Sometimes people take tough love as rudeness- It's not. Every one of us want you to succeed.
FWIW, I usually input my marinade recipe but will only log a small amount (5-15 mls). It's not perfect, but that's okay.6 -
I never understand on these posts why no one seems to share my reason that I weigh my food. I can't be the only one who finds this to be true . . . When I guess/eyeball/choose the highest entry I lose faster than expected but end up REALLY hungry and miserable. For me, weighing my food takes the guesswork out and means I get to eat MORE so I am less hungry. Just another reason to use the scale (although OP I know you are already going to do so).10
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Alatariel75 wrote: »Yup, weigh anything that isn't liquid.
I always find it bizarre (and kind of hysterical) that people imply that weighing everything will take hours and is some big imposition. It adds literally seconds.
I think weighing is easier and faster than getting out measuring cups/spoons.
Not a knock on the OP - I think it's OK to estimate sometimes. People are always kind of harsh about that.0 -
spiriteagle99 wrote: »I never weigh anything. I just do my best to estimate what I actually eat. It can work if you are as honest with yourself as possible and especially if you go on the high side rather than lowballing the amounts. I cook for two. My husband usually gets a somewhat larger portion, but I still just split the total calories in two. That gives me a bit of wiggle room for errors.
With this method you're always guessing and you never truly know how much you're eating and what is actually working for you. When you get down to the last few pounds, precision is needed and you haven't set yourself up for that by high-balling and guessing. And you won't know your macros and other nutrients either. Why count calories if you're not actually going to count them accurately?
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I never understand on these posts why no one seems to share my reason that I weigh my food. I can't be the only one who finds this to be true . . . When I guess/eyeball/choose the highest entry I lose faster than expected but end up REALLY hungry and miserable. For me, weighing my food takes the guesswork out and means I get to eat MORE so I am less hungry. Just another reason to use the scale (although OP I know you are already going to do so).
Yes, using measuring cups stressed me out because I never knew how tightly I was supposed to pack them. With weighing, there's no guesswork. Or cups to wash.3 -
texteach66 wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »Yup, weigh anything that isn't liquid.
I always find it bizarre (and kind of hysterical) that people imply that weighing everything will take hours and is some big imposition. It adds literally seconds.
I think weighing is easier and faster than getting out measuring cups/spoons.
Not a knock on the OP - I think it's OK to estimate sometimes. People are always kind of harsh about that.
But the original post at least appeared to be about the problem of estimating -- although we've come to find out it was secretly mainly about the shortest sentence in the whole post. ("The marinade included oil." It's like finding out the real message of the Bible is that Jesus wept.)
OP said "it's almost impossible to know exactly how many calories I'm consuming." OP then gave examples that all seemed to involve eyeballing and estimating. OP then described this as an "issue" and asked how the rest of us keep "the 'honor code'."
I don't see how it is "harsh" for people to explain that they don't have a problem because they a scale. Would it be better if we all said "don't worry about it" or "unlike the vast majority of people, your eyeballing of food is probably spot on"?
I don't see people on MFP criticizing others for not using scale just out of the blue -- it's generally in the context of people asking for help figuring out why they're not losing weight when they're supposedly eating at a deficit. This was a little different. OP was asking for help dealing with the "impossibility" of knowing how much you're eating.2 -
If you've been using a manual scale, you're going to be pleasantly surprised by how much easier it is with a nice digital one. You can hit the "tare" button to reset your scale to zero, so you can weigh multiple foods by simply putting your plate (or bowl, or pan) on the scale, adding one food, logging it, tare, add second food, and so on. Combined with the recipe builder in MFP it makes complex recipes very easy to calculate.
For something like a marinade where you don't really know how much of it you are consuming, I just guess.3 -
Thank you all for your input.0
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Pot Roast, what the devil do I do for pot roast. Yes, I can weigh the raw chuck roast, raw potato, raw onion, raw carrots, and the amount of olive oil and stock I use can be measured. But, that makes between 4 and 6 servings, I usually never eat the 'gravy' and can't weigh a serving because it's all mixed up ingredients. How to measure a serving of pot roast is my question. I just add up all the ingredients and divide by four. Even if it is six meals, each meal is logged as a 1/4 portion of whole. Is there a better or more accurate way?0
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I get your concern about the marinade. Weighing the marinade before and after could give incorrect results. If there is salt in the marinade, it will likely draw out juices from the chicken. And while the chicken cooks, it will leave some oily residue in the pan. How much oil is that? Should you weigh the pan before and after? And how do you know all that residue is oil and not other liquid? You really do just have to guess sometimes.
For instance: You start with 1T of oil for 2 pieces of chicken. Some oil gets left behind in the marinade and some gets left behind in the pan. I would guess each piece of cooked chicken has about 1 tsp oil on it.
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