How long till I have energy from excercise?
Paschen81
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Ok so... 2 weeks ago I started taking a grooves class followed by a HIIT style class... And when I am done all I want to do is sleep afterwards... And I mean I have trouble staying awake. Actually fell asleep for 5 hours after last Saturday's session and still went to bed and slept the whole night after waking up long enough to eat dinner..
How long until I am energized instead of utterly drained? Not to mention I gained since starting these classes. I can deal with the constant all over muscle pain... But the hypersomnia... Smh
How long until I am energized instead of utterly drained? Not to mention I gained since starting these classes. I can deal with the constant all over muscle pain... But the hypersomnia... Smh
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depends. I always had issues with energy and exercise doesnt make any difference in my energy levels.for you it may or may not. no one can sayif you are utterly drained though you may not be getting enough calories to fuel these exercises. hiit should not be done on the same day as another exercise class as if its true hiit it will sap your energy for awhile.also when starting a new exercise you will retain water to help repair muscles. so the gain could be water retention.3
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Exercise makes me tired and I've been doing it consistently since 2011. Exercise might never give you energy.6
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »depends. I always had issues with energy and exercise doesnt make any difference in my energy levels.for you it may or may not. no one can sayif you are utterly drained though you may not be getting enough calories to fuel these exercises. hiit should not be done on the same day as another exercise class as if its true hiit it will sap your energy for awhile.also when starting a new exercise you will retain water to help repair muscles. so the gain could be water retention.
The HIIT style class follows the grooves class... After the dancing, weights, floor routines, and stretching done in grooves... The HIIT is a beginners class... We do all kinds of different things. Example one day we did 3 sets of 20 10 20 10... 20 seconds so 20 seconds running in place 10 rest then 20 doing squats and 10 rest. Then after four sets rest for a minute and change exercises... Next set was 20 second biceps curls 10 rest 20 triceps 10 rest and do 4 sets of that. The instructor called it HIIT... But I've seen some on here that wouldn't call it HIIT... So maybe not high intensity but definitely interval... And by the time class is over several of us leave puddles of sweat and clothing dripping while others are just damp
As for my intake... Wed and Fri I do pool exercises leisurely and eat around 1400 Tue - Thurs - Sat I do the two classes and eat 1500 to 1600.1 -
Exercise makes me tired and I've been doing it consistently since 2011. Exercise might never give you energy.
That's what I'm afraid of... I get nothing done on Saturdays as my classes are in the early morning... At least Tuesday and Thursday are evenings so I can go straight to bed after.0 -
Exercise makes me tired and I've been doing it consistently since 2011. Exercise might never give you energy.
That's what I'm afraid of... I get nothing done on Saturdays as my classes are in the early morning... At least Tuesday and Thursday are evenings so I can go straight to bed after.
I find if I just keep busy then it's not as bad. Plan your day out to run your errands after the class.1 -
I've never heard of exercise giving you energy. I've heard of it getting the blood flowing and waking you up in the morning but that's not the same as giving you energy.0
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I get energy from exercise. I also get tired. It takes a long time of consistent training to build up stamina, up to years. Start easy and build up slowly. As your fitness improves, so will your energy. It's awesome!1
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Exercise gives me mental energy and boosts my overall physical well being but it doesn't give me immediate physical energy.
1. Are you fueling your workouts before and after? Do you eat back some of your exercise cals?
2. You're only 2 weeks into this. You might consider pacing yourself during class and/or doing one class instead of 2 in a row.2 -
Higher intensity workouts sap me out of energy and turn me into a zombie, no matter how I feul. I only function normally when I do moderate intensity. If after a while you get used to it and if you're sure you're fueling enough (eating extra calories and carbs), maybe you're just like that.0
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »depends. I always had issues with energy and exercise doesnt make any difference in my energy levels.for you it may or may not. no one can sayif you are utterly drained though you may not be getting enough calories to fuel these exercises. hiit should not be done on the same day as another exercise class as if its true hiit it will sap your energy for awhile.also when starting a new exercise you will retain water to help repair muscles. so the gain could be water retention.
The HIIT style class follows the grooves class... After the dancing, weights, floor routines, and stretching done in grooves... The HIIT is a beginners class... We do all kinds of different things. Example one day we did 3 sets of 20 10 20 10... 20 seconds so 20 seconds running in place 10 rest then 20 doing squats and 10 rest. Then after four sets rest for a minute and change exercises... Next set was 20 second biceps curls 10 rest 20 triceps 10 rest and do 4 sets of that. The instructor called it HIIT... But I've seen some on here that wouldn't call it HIIT... So maybe not high intensity but definitely interval... And by the time class is over several of us leave puddles of sweat and clothing dripping while others are just damp
As for my intake... Wed and Fri I do pool exercises leisurely and eat around 1400 Tue - Thurs - Sat I do the two classes and eat 1500 to 1600.
so how long is each class? can you do one class one day and then the other the next or? it may be too much exercise and not enough calories to fuel it even on the higher days. as for the muscle pain is it pain or just muscle soreness?0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »depends. I always had issues with energy and exercise doesnt make any difference in my energy levels.for you it may or may not. no one can sayif you are utterly drained though you may not be getting enough calories to fuel these exercises. hiit should not be done on the same day as another exercise class as if its true hiit it will sap your energy for awhile.also when starting a new exercise you will retain water to help repair muscles. so the gain could be water retention.
The HIIT style class follows the grooves class... After the dancing, weights, floor routines, and stretching done in grooves... The HIIT is a beginners class... We do all kinds of different things. Example one day we did 3 sets of 20 10 20 10... 20 seconds so 20 seconds running in place 10 rest then 20 doing squats and 10 rest. Then after four sets rest for a minute and change exercises... Next set was 20 second biceps curls 10 rest 20 triceps 10 rest and do 4 sets of that. The instructor called it HIIT... But I've seen some on here that wouldn't call it HIIT... So maybe not high intensity but definitely interval... And by the time class is over several of us leave puddles of sweat and clothing dripping while others are just damp
As for my intake... Wed and Fri I do pool exercises leisurely and eat around 1400 Tue - Thurs - Sat I do the two classes and eat 1500 to 1600.
so how long is each class? can you do one class one day and then the other the next or? it may be too much exercise and not enough calories to fuel it even on the higher days. as for the muscle pain is it pain or just muscle soreness?
Each class is 50 minutes. And only offered during the session I take. 95 % of the grooves class stay for the fit for life class that follows. The first day I only did the 1 class but everyone talked me into staying for the other and I enjoyed it so I kept staying.
As for the muscle pain... It is achy at rest, sore when engaging the muscle and acute pain when pushed on. Biofreeze and sitting in the spa for 15 on the alternate days helps with the achy and sore and lessens the acuteness when pressing on the muscle... By the next class it's just achy to move or push on the muscles but no wincing pain.0 -
When I think about exercise giving you extra energy, I think about how it affects my life in general. Like you, I can be exhausted from a hard workout and just want to sleep afterward, but I also find I have a lot more energy in my everyday life outside of post-exercise fatigue. I've been gradually increasing my exercise over the last 18 months or so - maybe you would feel better if you back off a little right now and build up to this amount of intensity more gradually?3
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I think the extra energy people talk about may be the feeling of how quickly they bounce back from a challenging workout. That will improve with time and really it will depend on your unique genetic profile and how well you are fueling your body. If I take a break for a few months and then start lifting again, I feel flattened when I first start, but I sleep and nap as much as my body demands because I know it will get better. I hope your start feeling peppier faster soon!1
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HIIT style classes are going to be more tiring, especially for beginners. They're
hyped as burning more calories, especially EPOC (excess post-exercise oxygen consumption, sometimes called "afterburn" or "revved metabolism" or something).
But here's the deal: They can drain you so much you can't/don't do your normal daily activities (NEAT, non-exercise activity thermogenesis) - chores, errands, non-exercise leisure activities, etc. NEAT is one of our major sources of calorie burn. Reducing NEAT - as it sounds like you may be doing - can wipe out some/most/all the exercise calories.
As a relative beginner, you might want to consider some less intensive "steady state" cardio classes/activities for a big chunk of your workout time, at least until you build up some base stamina/endurance. After you get to "kind of fit", then add in some more intense workouts, but not every day.
Seriously, actual advanced athletes in a large number of sports spend the majority of time on steady-state workouts, partly to allow recovery time from the less-frequent intense workouts. Recovery is where progress happens, and if you're constantly exhausted, you aren't recovering.
If you're unwillingly to back off the intensity even a little for a while, try adding a small well-tolerated carb-y snack in between the two classes. In general, timing of eating makes no difference to us sub-elite athletes. But for a while, I took a kettlebell class right after a spin class. I found that kettlebell, and the rest of my day, went better if I ate something in between, even just a packet of unsweetened applesauce.
You don't have to kill yourself (or even the rest of your daily life) with exercise. It can even be counter-productive. Better to find something that's fun, sustainable, and fits in well with your daily life. That will give you the best total calorie burn, and make life more enjoyable.
Best wishes finding the right formula for you!
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You were commenting in another thread about reducing sugar, including natural sugars in fruit. Some people find that these carbs can be an important source of energy, particularly when engaging in a strenuous workout routine. You might need to be open to playing around with that.4
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About 50 lbs. ago, I used to get energy from working out/exercise. Whenever I would add a workout to the day I would be able to do much more in the day, and enjoy doing it. It added hours onto my day and I'd have a high after exercising. Now that I am very overweight (17 lbs. down, 83 to go), it does not. However, I am careful not to to overdo it so that I am exhausted. I'm not getting the high yet, but in my case I think I'm going to just have to get rid of at least another 50 lbs. because it is just too much for the body to handle to do more than light exercise at this point.1
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »depends. I always had issues with energy and exercise doesnt make any difference in my energy levels.for you it may or may not. no one can sayif you are utterly drained though you may not be getting enough calories to fuel these exercises. hiit should not be done on the same day as another exercise class as if its true hiit it will sap your energy for awhile.also when starting a new exercise you will retain water to help repair muscles. so the gain could be water retention.
Actually, the initial weight gain isn't water retention. Most initial weight gain is due to your muscles getting broken down and rebuilt larger than before the stimulus. This rebuilding process requires protein, which consists of amino acids used as the "building blocks" of muscle anabolism. For a beginner, any form of exercise will build larger muscle tissue. Even though fat loss can occur at the same time, muscle weighs more than fat...hence, overall weight gain even while becoming healthier. When providing consistent stimulus this weight gain will plateau as your muscles can only become as large as your genetics allow. At that point you should notice the pounds coming off in the form of fat catabolism, or fat breakdown. Keep in mind that studies have shown repeatedly that the number one thing which determines long term fitness is consistency! Keep up the good work.6 -
When I think about exercise giving you extra energy, I think about how it affects my life in general. Like you, I can be exhausted from a hard workout and just want to sleep afterward, but I also find I have a lot more energy in my everyday life outside of post-exercise fatigue. I've been gradually increasing my exercise over the last 18 months or so - maybe you would feel better if you back off a little right now and build up to this amount of intensity more gradually?
This is almost exactly what I was going to say.1 -
6 months in. I too keep hoping (thus far in vain) to experience some energy gain from my almost daily exercise sessions. Instead, I have to take a nap or go to bed hours early now compared to previously.
I do experience more energy to exercise i.e. I can swim longer without having to stop. But it appears to take that energy out of my general energy pool and I need about an extra hour of sleep for every hour and 1/2 I exercise
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For me, workouts give me, not necessarily "energy" but a natural feel good. In the beginning you may feel worn out and tired but give it time and your body should adjust. Good luck! Happy Training!1
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I periodically train for long distance running events (half and full marathons), and I find that as I increase my weekly distance, I get noticeably more tired and hungry. I have to go to bed earlier every night, and usually find that after a long run on the weekend, I tend not to do very much the rest of the day. I don't get energy from my running training, I get tired.2
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HIIT style classes are going to be more tiring, especially for beginners. They're
hyped as burning more calories, especially EPOC (excess post-exercise oxygen consumption, sometimes called "afterburn" or "revved metabolism" or something).
But here's the deal: They can drain you so much you can't/don't do your normal daily activities (NEAT, non-exercise activity thermogenesis) - chores, errands, non-exercise leisure activities, etc. NEAT is one of our major sources of calorie burn. Reducing NEAT - as it sounds like you may be doing - can wipe out some/most/all the exercise calories.
As a relative beginner, you might want to consider some less intensive "steady state" cardio classes/activities for a big chunk of your workout time, at least until you build up some base stamina/endurance. After you get to "kind of fit", then add in some more intense workouts, but not every day.
Seriously, actual advanced athletes in a large number of sports spend the majority of time on steady-state workouts, partly to allow recovery time from the less-frequent intense workouts. Recovery is where progress happens, and if you're constantly exhausted, you aren't recovering.
If you're unwillingly to back off the intensity even a little for a while, try adding a small well-tolerated carb-y snack in between the two classes. In general, timing of eating makes no difference to us sub-elite athletes. But for a while, I took a kettlebell class right after a spin class. I found that kettlebell, and the rest of my day, went better if I ate something in between, even just a packet of unsweetened applesauce.
You don't have to kill yourself (or even the rest of your daily life) with exercise. It can even be counter-productive. Better to find something that's fun, sustainable, and fits in well with your daily life. That will give you the best total calorie burn, and make life more enjoyable.
Best wishes finding the right formula for you!
That post excercise o2 consumption... Interesting idea... That maybe would explain my o2 saturations dropping below 95% afterwards... I did notice that but wasn't sure why as I wasn't short of breath or anything that would normally be present when I have a spell of desaturation.
Also a good idea about a small snack between classes. I usually haven't eaten before I go and get time so late that I eat very lightly before bed but I do tend to eat a little more at lunch on the days I have the classes.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »You were commenting in another thread about reducing sugar, including natural sugars in fruit. Some people find that these carbs can be an important source of energy, particularly when engaging in a strenuous workout routine. You might need to be open to playing around with that.
Yes I don't limit my sugars anymore... Ok well yeah I do but nowhere near as strictly as I use to. I was just curious about limits others used as I felt the NS progran was too strict in their limits.0 -
Bradleydagen wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »depends. I always had issues with energy and exercise doesnt make any difference in my energy levels.for you it may or may not. no one can sayif you are utterly drained though you may not be getting enough calories to fuel these exercises. hiit should not be done on the same day as another exercise class as if its true hiit it will sap your energy for awhile.also when starting a new exercise you will retain water to help repair muscles. so the gain could be water retention.
Actually, the initial weight gain isn't water retention. Most initial weight gain is due to your muscles getting broken down and rebuilt larger than before the stimulus. This rebuilding process requires protein, which consists of amino acids used as the "building blocks" of muscle anabolism. For a beginner, any form of exercise will build larger muscle tissue. Even though fat loss can occur at the same time, muscle weighs more than fat...hence, overall weight gain even while becoming healthier. When providing consistent stimulus this weight gain will plateau as your muscles can only become as large as your genetics allow. At that point you should notice the pounds coming off in the form of fat catabolism, or fat breakdown. Keep in mind that studies have shown repeatedly that the number one thing which determines long term fitness is consistency! Keep up the good work.
weight gain when first starting a workout is usually water retention to help heal muscle . as woman will not build muscle that quickly especially doing hiit or some type of cardio.you are not going to gain the same amount in muscle as you lost in fat to where it causes a plateau. it doesnt work that way..
sure you can get newbie gains if new to lifting but for most women its not going to be a big amount as we dont have the testosterone to build as quickly as men.gaining muscle for the most part requires even when building muscle in a surplus its not going to be a 1:1 ration and you gain fat when building muscle in a surplus. and she is in a deficit so its even harder to build muscle in a deficit.
fat is also lost in a deficit. if recomping you can gain some muscle and lose some fat but again its not going to be a 1:1 ratio,not to mention it takes a LONG time to recomp. 2 weeks is NOT going to yield enough muscle to where someone plateaus their weight. which is why many people do bulk and cut cycles when building muscle.3 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Bradleydagen wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »depends. I always had issues with energy and exercise doesnt make any difference in my energy levels.for you it may or may not. no one can sayif you are utterly drained though you may not be getting enough calories to fuel these exercises. hiit should not be done on the same day as another exercise class as if its true hiit it will sap your energy for awhile.also when starting a new exercise you will retain water to help repair muscles. so the gain could be water retention.
Actually, the initial weight gain isn't water retention. Most initial weight gain is due to your muscles getting broken down and rebuilt larger than before the stimulus. This rebuilding process requires protein, which consists of amino acids used as the "building blocks" of muscle anabolism. For a beginner, any form of exercise will build larger muscle tissue. Even though fat loss can occur at the same time, muscle weighs more than fat...hence, overall weight gain even while becoming healthier. When providing consistent stimulus this weight gain will plateau as your muscles can only become as large as your genetics allow. At that point you should notice the pounds coming off in the form of fat catabolism, or fat breakdown. Keep in mind that studies have shown repeatedly that the number one thing which determines long term fitness is consistency! Keep up the good work.
weight gain when first starting a workout is usually water retention to help heal muscle . as woman will not build muscle that quickly especially doing hiit or some type of cardio.you are not going to gain the same amount in muscle as you lost in fat to where it causes a plateau. it doesnt work that way..
sure you can get newbie gains if new to lifting but for most women its not going to be a big amount as we dont have the testosterone to build as quickly as men.gaining muscle for the most part requires even when building muscle in a surplus its not going to be a 1:1 ration and you gain fat when building muscle in a surplus. and she is in a deficit so its even harder to build muscle in a deficit.
fat is also lost in a deficit. if recomping you can gain some muscle and lose some fat but again its not going to be a 1:1 ratio,not to mention it takes a LONG time to recomp. 2 weeks is NOT going to yield enough muscle to where someone plateaus their weight. which is why many people do bulk and cut cycles when building muscle.
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Bradleydagen wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Bradleydagen wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »depends. I always had issues with energy and exercise doesnt make any difference in my energy levels.for you it may or may not. no one can sayif you are utterly drained though you may not be getting enough calories to fuel these exercises. hiit should not be done on the same day as another exercise class as if its true hiit it will sap your energy for awhile.also when starting a new exercise you will retain water to help repair muscles. so the gain could be water retention.
Actually, the initial weight gain isn't water retention. Most initial weight gain is due to your muscles getting broken down and rebuilt larger than before the stimulus. This rebuilding process requires protein, which consists of amino acids used as the "building blocks" of muscle anabolism. For a beginner, any form of exercise will build larger muscle tissue. Even though fat loss can occur at the same time, muscle weighs more than fat...hence, overall weight gain even while becoming healthier. When providing consistent stimulus this weight gain will plateau as your muscles can only become as large as your genetics allow. At that point you should notice the pounds coming off in the form of fat catabolism, or fat breakdown. Keep in mind that studies have shown repeatedly that the number one thing which determines long term fitness is consistency! Keep up the good work.
weight gain when first starting a workout is usually water retention to help heal muscle . as woman will not build muscle that quickly especially doing hiit or some type of cardio.you are not going to gain the same amount in muscle as you lost in fat to where it causes a plateau. it doesnt work that way..
sure you can get newbie gains if new to lifting but for most women its not going to be a big amount as we dont have the testosterone to build as quickly as men.gaining muscle for the most part requires even when building muscle in a surplus its not going to be a 1:1 ration and you gain fat when building muscle in a surplus. and she is in a deficit so its even harder to build muscle in a deficit.
fat is also lost in a deficit. if recomping you can gain some muscle and lose some fat but again its not going to be a 1:1 ratio,not to mention it takes a LONG time to recomp. 2 weeks is NOT going to yield enough muscle to where someone plateaus their weight. which is why many people do bulk and cut cycles when building muscle.
Clearly...
she said she started working out 2 weeks ago. soooo and she wasnt asking about muscle or anything she was asking when she would have energy and that she gained. it doesnt mean its muscle not to mention most people when they state they are gaining are usually eating more than they think ,have water retention,its that time of the month,waste and so on. many come back to say they lost weight a week or so later.1 -
It gives me a mental boost, but it doesn't give me energy.0
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I'm always wiped after doing a workout, especially the intense ones.
BUT I notice I recover a lot faster now, back to full energy within half an hour easily if not within a few minutes. I also find that during the day I have more energy and ability to do challenging tasks, such as squatting and holding that position.
I figure THATS what is meant by "more energy" when you exercise.0 -
If several big workouts and I haven't logged eating to confirm I ate enough - dead tired.
That's the body's response - slow you down. Sleeping works pretty good in that regard.
So while the workout may be good transformation for the body and heart health - it is doing little or nothing for burning more calories to allow eating more.
If eating the same and workouts increased - not good idea for long run as observed.0 -
If several big workouts and I haven't logged eating to confirm I ate enough - dead tired.
That's the body's response - slow you down. Sleeping works pretty good in that regard.
So while the workout may be good transformation for the body and heart health - it is doing little or nothing for burning more calories to allow eating more.
If eating the same and workouts increased - not good idea for long run as observed.
I'm confused... First you stare that the body's response is to slow down you down that it does nothing to allow you to eat more but then the next statement you say if eating the same and workouts increase its not good...
So increase excercise but don't eat more followed by if you don't eat more when increasing exercise it's not good... *scratches head*
So... I've been eating 1400 per day pretty consistently (yes I have a day here or there where I eat closer to 1800 like my birthday, or a friend's wedding) so when I started to do these classes... I figured the calorie burn given by mfp was WAY off. There is NO way burning almost 1000 calories is possible... So I figured it was a at least half that 500 or so... And ate back half of that at 200 so that on workout days I ate 1600 and non workout days 1400.
So should I or should I not be doing that?0
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