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  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    edited September 2017
    Google caffeine overdose. You won't win the sprint if you collapse on the track from heart failure.

    You'll risk death for that but at the same time stress about the tiny probability of getting cancer from a sausage (ignoring all information about context and dosage that is behind that probability). That doesn't strike you as more than a little disordered?

    For your own mental health, never go to California and look at the Prop 65 notices.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Please don't start working on cars and making performance "improvements" using the same philosophy of knowledge you are using here.

    Lives of driver and passengers AS WELL AS other drivers on the road would be at stake.

    Caffeine is for aerobic endurance, to utilize fat as energy source more than it would be otherwise.
    https://www.trainingpeaks.com/blog/the-benefits-of-caffeine-for-endurance-athletes/

    Exactly opposite of desire you are going for, which is totally anaerobic.

    You improve that by doing it. No way around it. Caffeine won't help that.

    So that your training doesn't actually injure you and prevent you from doing it frequently enough to make improvements - walk as warmup for 5 min, jog for 5-10 min, and then start your sprints for distance or time desired as hard as you can. Recover walk for 30 sec, slow jog 30 sec - Sprint again. Repeat.
    Stop when your performance is bad enough you aren't doing anything useful anymore. (that part will get longer as you get better). Walk 5-10 min as cooldown. Stretch.
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  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    Google caffeine overdose. You won't win the sprint if you collapse on the track from heart failure.

    You'll risk death for that but at the same time stress about the tiny probability of getting cancer from a sausage (ignoring all information about context and dosage that is behind that probability). That doesn't strike you as more than a little disordered?

    For your own mental health, never go to California and look at the Prop 65 notices.

    Lets not bring that thread in here sir, you'll start a fire.

    Shall we discuss your unfortunate cake sandwich habit instead?
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/comment/37129641/#Comment_37129641
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    heybales wrote: »
    Please don't start working on cars and making performance "improvements" using the same philosophy of knowledge you are using here.

    Lives of driver and passengers AS WELL AS other drivers on the road would be at stake.

    Caffeine is for aerobic endurance, to utilize fat as energy source more than it would be otherwise.
    https://www.trainingpeaks.com/blog/the-benefits-of-caffeine-for-endurance-athletes/

    Exactly opposite of desire you are going for, which is totally anaerobic.

    You improve that by doing it. No way around it. Caffeine won't help that.

    So that your training doesn't actually injure you and prevent you from doing it frequently enough to make improvements - walk as warmup for 5 min, jog for 5-10 min, and then start your sprints for distance or time desired as hard as you can. Recover walk for 30 sec, slow jog 30 sec - Sprint again. Repeat.
    Stop when your performance is bad enough you aren't doing anything useful anymore. (that part will get longer as you get better). Walk 5-10 min as cooldown. Stretch.

    Their has to be something sir to make my legs and body run faster besides a tuger or a lion or a bear behind me running after me, their has to be something, i wanna succeed sir suceed.
    I Must WIN

    Yes - vivid imagination or mental fortitude to push as hard as you can.

    You aren't going to find something that magically masks the buildup of lactic acid preventing further buildup, you aren't going to find something that magically prevents it from happening.

    You may find something that works best for recover between sessions - heavy simple carbs with bit of protein to increase uptake to replenish muscles you wiped out.

    Read that link, caffeine could be used there, but it sounds like your next race is too quick for how long it actually takes to be useful.
    It's more of a day after type recovery improvement.
    The negatives it mentions are exactly what you do NOT want during your recover for sprints - so best avoided.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    scorpio516 wrote: »
    So should taking between 197-395 mg of caffeine help me to able to achieve 195kmh from 120 within 100 to 200 m of the sprints that day?

    To start with the obvious, it's physically impossible to run 195 km/h.

    Second, caffeine does nothing for sprint performance. There are studies that confirm this

    I mean from 12 mph top speed to 19 mph,

    A bike is a good way to do that.
  • GiddyupTim
    GiddyupTim Posts: 2,819 Member
    I second the bike suggestion. Hide one under your shorts.
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  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    heybales wrote: »
    heybales wrote: »
    Please don't start working on cars and making performance "improvements" using the same philosophy of knowledge you are using here.

    Lives of driver and passengers AS WELL AS other drivers on the road would be at stake.

    Caffeine is for aerobic endurance, to utilize fat as energy source more than it would be otherwise.
    https://www.trainingpeaks.com/blog/the-benefits-of-caffeine-for-endurance-athletes/

    Exactly opposite of desire you are going for, which is totally anaerobic.

    You improve that by doing it. No way around it. Caffeine won't help that.

    So that your training doesn't actually injure you and prevent you from doing it frequently enough to make improvements - walk as warmup for 5 min, jog for 5-10 min, and then start your sprints for distance or time desired as hard as you can. Recover walk for 30 sec, slow jog 30 sec - Sprint again. Repeat.
    Stop when your performance is bad enough you aren't doing anything useful anymore. (that part will get longer as you get better). Walk 5-10 min as cooldown. Stretch.

    Their has to be something sir to make my legs and body run faster besides a tuger or a lion or a bear behind me running after me, their has to be something, i wanna succeed sir suceed.
    I Must WIN

    Yes - vivid imagination or mental fortitude to push as hard as you can.

    You aren't going to find something that magically masks the buildup of lactic acid preventing further buildup, you aren't going to find something that magically prevents it from happening.

    You may find something that works best for recover between sessions - heavy simple carbs with bit of protein to increase uptake to replenish muscles you wiped out.

    Read that link, caffeine could be used there, but it sounds like your next race is too quick for how long it actually takes to be useful.
    It's more of a day after type recovery improvement.
    The negatives it mentions are exactly what you do NOT want during your recover for sprints - so best avoided.

    Nothing out there to help anaerobic power or peak hp?

    Yeah, it's called "training".
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    heybales wrote: »
    heybales wrote: »
    Please don't start working on cars and making performance "improvements" using the same philosophy of knowledge you are using here.

    Lives of driver and passengers AS WELL AS other drivers on the road would be at stake.

    Caffeine is for aerobic endurance, to utilize fat as energy source more than it would be otherwise.
    https://www.trainingpeaks.com/blog/the-benefits-of-caffeine-for-endurance-athletes/

    Exactly opposite of desire you are going for, which is totally anaerobic.

    You improve that by doing it. No way around it. Caffeine won't help that.

    So that your training doesn't actually injure you and prevent you from doing it frequently enough to make improvements - walk as warmup for 5 min, jog for 5-10 min, and then start your sprints for distance or time desired as hard as you can. Recover walk for 30 sec, slow jog 30 sec - Sprint again. Repeat.
    Stop when your performance is bad enough you aren't doing anything useful anymore. (that part will get longer as you get better). Walk 5-10 min as cooldown. Stretch.

    Their has to be something sir to make my legs and body run faster besides a tuger or a lion or a bear behind me running after me, their has to be something, i wanna succeed sir suceed.
    I Must WIN

    Yes - vivid imagination or mental fortitude to push as hard as you can.

    You aren't going to find something that magically masks the buildup of lactic acid preventing further buildup, you aren't going to find something that magically prevents it from happening.

    You may find something that works best for recover between sessions - heavy simple carbs with bit of protein to increase uptake to replenish muscles you wiped out.

    Read that link, caffeine could be used there, but it sounds like your next race is too quick for how long it actually takes to be useful.
    It's more of a day after type recovery improvement.
    The negatives it mentions are exactly what you do NOT want during your recover for sprints - so best avoided.

    Nothing out there to help anaerobic power or peak hp?

    Yeah, it's called "training".

    And it started several months ago.
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  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Ok well how many sprints a day is required to go from 12-19?

    Follow the example of sprinters - get into the gym and squat and deadlift and do explosive power leaps.

    You just need more muscle, since that is not aerobic in nature, there is a limit to doing the actual event will actually help improve in it.

    And if lack of sleep is killing recovery from what needs to be a hard workout - then you need to do fewer hard workouts.

    The workout tears your muscles down - it's the rest for recovery and rebuilding that actually makes you stronger - short circuit that and you pretty much wasted your hard workout.

    Soon they won't be hard if you keep it up. Mediocre workouts with lack of recovery will soon just be a plain bad stress on body inviting injury for what you are attempting.
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  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    edited September 2017
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  • SCoil123
    SCoil123 Posts: 2,111 Member
    rybo wrote: »
    This has to be a troll. Or one of the dumbest kids ever

    Troll for sure. Started this thread back in May "with only two weeks to go" but is still going with the absurd comments and questions months later.
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