Weight gain ‘fluctuations’ for me are not temporary
phwdjones
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Everyone says if you go up a pound a day after an excess of food then it’s temporary water weight the next day - no biggie.
Excuse my French but this is bs! I was 190 yesterday morning. Today I’m 191 and I can guarantee I will still be 191 tomorrow if I eat how I should be eating. It’s so frustrating having constant one step forward one step back syndrome.. I am STARVING at 1800 calories as a 6’1 male and apparently that’s not low enough to lose 2 lbs a week. I keep losing and regaining!! Last Friday I was 189.8, now 191. So depressing
Excuse my French but this is bs! I was 190 yesterday morning. Today I’m 191 and I can guarantee I will still be 191 tomorrow if I eat how I should be eating. It’s so frustrating having constant one step forward one step back syndrome.. I am STARVING at 1800 calories as a 6’1 male and apparently that’s not low enough to lose 2 lbs a week. I keep losing and regaining!! Last Friday I was 189.8, now 191. So depressing
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not everyone says that... it take me 4 days to get rid of water weight... (weekend before last i went on a hen do, ate and drank loads more than i usually would... weighed myself Monday morning i was up 3lbs... by the Friday i was back to normal)
you don't have enough weight to lose to aim for 2lb per week... we told you this in your last thread...
you really need to back away from the scales if its bothering you that much... life is too short...29 -
I would stick with it. I was a doubter initially but I have found that with water gain it takes me around a week but when it goes so do a couple of extra pounds with it
Hang on in there. Every body reacts differently so it could be that like me yours just hangs around for a little longer.
I was so disheartened last week as I'd been so careful but was holding onto 1 1/4 lbs of what I thought was water weight but didn't budge for a week. Then bang, that went yesterday along with one more pound and today another 1.5.
Don't let it fool you, you are working hard and it will pay off. Sadly it's just not linear but keep going7 -
Also remember you may still be losing fat even if the scales don't move so quickly, that's the main thing x2
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TavistockToad wrote: »not everyone says that... it take me 4 days to get rid of water weight... (weekend before last i went on a hen do, ate and drank loads more than i usually would... weighed myself Monday morning i was up 3lbs... by the Friday i was back to normal)
you don't have enough weight to lose to aim for 2lb per week... we told you this in your last thread...
you really need to back away from the scales if its bothering you that much... life is too short...
As soon as I hit my goal I’ll stop making these threads and stop being obsessive, but it just feels like I’m killing myself and not being rewarded. Enrages me when guys say they eat 2.5k cals and lose a 1lb per week easy. Im going to bed hungry every night and for what? Maybe the same weight on the scale the next day if I’m lucky.
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TavistockToad wrote: »not everyone says that... it take me 4 days to get rid of water weight... (weekend before last i went on a hen do, ate and drank loads more than i usually would... weighed myself Monday morning i was up 3lbs... by the Friday i was back to normal)
you don't have enough weight to lose to aim for 2lb per week... we told you this in your last thread...
you really need to back away from the scales if its bothering you that much... life is too short...
As soon as I hit my goal I’ll stop making these threads and stop being obsessive, but it just feels like I’m killing myself and not being rewarded. Enrages me when guys say they eat 2.5k cals and lose a 1lb per week easy. Im going to bed hungry every night and for what? Maybe the same weight on the scale the next day if I’m lucky.
go back and read the answers on your other thread... obviously nothing has changed since then.
stop expecting weight loss 'overnight'
looking at your diary, you're still very high is sodium and still not tracking everything (no fruit and veg). also, if you only have 10lbs to lose, it is going to be slow - like 0.5lb per week - and easily masked by water weight...
all you are currently doing is under eating, stressing yourself out, eating excess sodium and then wondering why overnight you cant lose 5lbs.... does any of that sound healthy to you?!
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Water weight from raised cortisol (stress) is a very real thing, and it won't drop off until you a) stop stressing your body by under feeding it, and b) stop stress your mind.15
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Everyone says if you go up a pound a day after an excess of food then it’s temporary water weight the next day - no biggie.
Excuse my French but this is bs! I was 190 yesterday morning. Today I’m 191 and I can guarantee I will still be 191 tomorrow if I eat how I should be eating. It’s so frustrating having constant one step forward one step back syndrome.. I am STARVING at 1800 calories as a 6’1 male and apparently that’s not low enough to lose 2 lbs a week. I keep losing and regaining!! Last Friday I was 189.8, now 191. So depressing
If you eat above maintenance, you will gain a bit of fat or muscle weight or both, whether it's a fraction of a pound, a pound or two pounds, depending on how much you ate above your energy requirements. Water weight gain will be the gain over and above the fat and/or muscle weight gain.
All the stories you read about the weight going back to normal after eating huge amounts are really stories about people going back to calorie restriction after their excesses. If they did not restrict calories after eating excessively but ate at maintenance, they will maintain at the new weight even after water weight has gone.
Clearly, if you keep restricting one day, eating excessively the next, you'll keep losing and regaining.
If you're too hungry at 1800 cals, then my suggestion is for you to either up your calories and accept a slower weight loss, or look at what you're eating and see if you can tweak your diet so that it can sustain you at 1800 calories.4 -
Why are you eating only 1800 calories and aiming at two pounds a week with so little to lose? You are creating more mental stress for yourself and your threads show it. Eat like a full grown adult male and your mental state will improve and you won't obsess over things like one pound weight fluctuations.16
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Why are you eating only 1800 calories and aiming at two pounds a week with so little to lose? You are creating more mental stress for yourself and your threads show it. Eat like a full grown adult male and your mental state will improve and you won't obsess over things like one pound weight fluctuations.
I want to get to 175 or possibly lower so that’s a 15 lb loss atleast. If I eat like a normal guy (2000+) the scale is going to go up just like it always has in the past.
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Why are you eating only 1800 calories and aiming at two pounds a week with so little to lose? You are creating more mental stress for yourself and your threads show it. Eat like a full grown adult male and your mental state will improve and you won't obsess over things like one pound weight fluctuations.
I want to get to 175 or possibly lower so that’s a 15 lb loss atleast. If I eat like a normal guy (2000+) the scale is going to go up just like it always has in the past.
These guys you mention that are losing weight on 2500 are not trying to lose 2 pounds, most likely .5 to 1 pound a week, or just ask them next time you see them post this. You can eat 2300 and lose 1 pound a week and not be dang hangry.
This sounds a lot more like a venting session rather than wanting solid advice. And I echo all the comments about stress, water weight fluctuation, under eating/too aggressive rate of loss each week, etc.
Stress and obsessing does much more harm than good. When you do not trust the process, this is what usually happens. The process is log all foods that contains calories, keep your sodium in check, stay hydrated, lose at a reasonable rate of loss; and give it some time.
Creating these threads probably is not helping you much either. Hopefully you will find some balance and learn to trust the process, but also learn to have some patience and try not to lose it so aggressively that you compromise muscle loss, its your choice.12 -
One of the things that makes me the most hungry is not eating any vegetables. When I find myself starving (I'm on 1250 calories) it usually means I'm not getting enough fibre. Your hunger could be causing more trouble because of this. Apparently you are either not logging them or not eating them. Increase fresh vegetables like steamed broccoli or any high fibre vegetable you like. I'm not talking about lettuce here... too much water to help. Be sure you log it and I think that will help with the hunger.
As to the amount of weight you are trying to lose every week...everyone here is right, you won't lose that quickly with only 15 pounds to go. I have been dieting since the beginning of the year to lose 25 pounds and still have 5 to go. I'm down over 100 pounds from my all time high weight but it came off alot faster the first year. Be patient. This is not a race to the finish line and accept that when you do get there you can't go back to eating "normally". Your normal is what landed you here in the first place.
Finally as to the question of a weight gain, I may be different than others but it takes a couple of weeks for me to get back down. I really pay for a mistake even a planned one. The extra food in your system weighs something and it takes a while to leave your body. Some is water and yes some is fat. Our bodies count calories perfectly even when we don't. Be sure you are logging everything even a bite here and there because it adds up.5 -
Water weight sticks around for about 3-4 days for me normally.
I had similar stats to you during my weight loss phase (6'2", ~1800 calories per day) and I hung around 190 pounds for about 2 weeks after months of steady loss. It was totally frustrating but stick to your plan and the results will show. Once I did finally drop below 190 my weight dropped pretty quickly. I set a new low weight every single day of that week until I got back onto my normal trend.
Also, how much have you lost so far? It's a simple question but have you confirmed that your logging, etc. is accurate and complete? Not a biggie if you've already seen good losses but it always helps to confirm that the basics are in good order.
Finally, I know that hunger is different for everybody but what are you finding so tough about 1800 calories per day? I found it to be a pretty reasonable amount of food. How do you structure your meals throughout the day and what are you eating?
You might want to consider giving yourself a break once in a while. One meal per week where you can not worry about calories or a 2 week break from eating at a deficit altogether. Sounds like you could use the mental release.2 -
I didn't have a scale loss for more than 3 weeks last month. But I could see a difference in the mirror. Dropped the 3lbs I had the deficit over the course of the 4th week. I had a Thanksgiving dinner on Saturday, ate all the food, was up 3lbs on Sunday. Back to my current low Monday. Yesterday I was back at exercise after a couple of weeks off, today I'm 1lb up.
This is all normal, this is all what happens in snapshots of time. Any one of those data points is irrelevant without context. The context has to be looked at over say a 6-8 week period.
You have to chill out. You're making this an absolutely miserable experience for yourself and ignoring the brilliant advice you've been given.12 -
There are so many things that can cause water-weight, and as others have said, when you only have a little bit to lose, it can easily mask weight loss unless you really step back and watch trends instead of day-to-day fluctuations. Think about it: say on Monday you eat some fast food but are in a deficit. Maybe then Tuesday morning you're up a pound because of the high-sodium food. If that weight takes a couple of days to drop, what happens if, on Thursday morning, you tweak something weird at the gym? That first pound is gone, but now you're retaining because of the injury. So you take it easy over the weekend, stay at a deficit, stay away from the high sodium food, and Monday morning you've dropped back down, plus now you're showing a third of a pound lower than you were a week ago. Awesome, right until you check the news and find out that part of your extended family is stuck in the middle of a colossus fire-storm and no one is sure where your grandma is. Hello, stress, hello, water-weight.
None of these examples were taken from real life, of course. >.>4 -
"Temporary" doesn't mean "will be gone the next day." When we talk about short-term fluctuations, we're talking over a week or two. If your average weight this week is lighter than it was 2-4 weeks ago, you're on the right track. No body reacts as quickly as you seem to think yours should. You need to have some compassion for yourself and stop putting so much pressure on yourself and on your body.
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You need to understand process better and be a bit more mature about all of this.
You have several misconceptions about how this works regardless of what rate you believe other people lose at or what rate you expect changes.
What you want does not matter unless it is possible to achieve AND you are willing to consistently put in the proper effort to make it happen.
You are not "starving" at 1800 calories. That is insulting to millions (if not billions) of people who do not have the luxury of eating 3 meals a day, every day.
Live in a Third World country for a few months and frequently go completely without food for a few days at a time like some of the locals do.
Then get back to me about what "starving" actually means.
You can also fill me in about how much weight you suddenly lost.
Read "Bigger Leaner Stronger" a few times until you completely understand it, apply the principles in the book consistently every day for at least 3 months, cut out most of the unnecessary salt in your diet, track EVERYTHING you eat in MFP, drink at least a gallon of water each day, and maybe even consider not arguing with experienced people who are trying to help you.
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How careful is your tracking? I see some partially tracked days and some days where you didn't track at all in your diary... What's happening on those days? Are you blowing the deficit from your other days?
Also--you have some days where your sodium is 2x the RDA--that's bound to make you retain water. I also noticed that you tracked ham for one of your meals and it only had 1 mg of sodium--highly unlikely--try to reduce your sodium intake, track accurately, and the weight loss will come.6 -
It takes me at least 4 days to loose the water weight if I eat to much sodium. For instance a few weeks ago. Gain 3 pounds from the weekend. Stayed in my calorie goal but had a lot of sodium. Held that till Wednesday, the dropped 2 pounds. Then Thursday I went down another 5 pounds. (I hadn't had a loss in almost 2 weeks, I blame this on sodium intake way to high!)1
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No one ever told me it would be easy. They told me it would be worth it. 95lbs and 13 months later, they were right.23
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I was looking at your diary, and all other things aside, have you tried eating more than once or twice a day? Maybe you need to eat more than one or two big meals to feel satisfied. Eat 3 smaller meals, or toss a snack in there.1
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ashliedelgado wrote: »I was looking at your diary, and all other things aside, have you tried eating more than once or twice a day? Maybe you need to eat more than one or two big meals to feel satisfied. Eat 3 smaller meals, or toss a snack in there.
You definitely don't have to stick to one or two meals a day. That's probably why you're starving. For my 1800 calories, my normal eating day looked as follows:
10AM: 1 medium piece of fruit (100 calories)
12PM: Large deli sandwich, wheat bread, 5 oz lunch meat, 1 oz. cheese, all the pickles, pepper spread, lettuce, and mustard I can handle (500 calories)
3PM: Snack worth 150 to 200 calories
6PM: Dinner worth 800-900 calories
8:30PM: Snack worth 150-200 calories (usually cottage cheese with berries or jam)
Lunch and dinner were really large and the snacks were enough to keep the edge off hunger throughout the day. I chose not to burn any calories on beverages or alcohol during the week because I will admit that I was walking a razor's edge with my hunger management. I did occasionally find myself getting hangry if I missed or delayed a meal but I rarely felt like I was depriving myself of anything.3 -
Went out last night. Had 900+ calories spare for dinner. Ate some sourdough bread, 1 bottle of beer, 1 duck curry and some small shrimp. Woke up today and am 194 lbs. FOR *kitten* SAKE
The meal wasn't even that large!! So I probably hit 2700 cals - yet 4 lbs gain?!!??!8 -
ashliedelgado wrote: »I was looking at your diary, and all other things aside, have you tried eating more than once or twice a day? Maybe you need to eat more than one or two big meals to feel satisfied. Eat 3 smaller meals, or toss a snack in there.
That's a good plan, yes. I have a huge appetite though so its very hard to have smaller meals, when I eat I eat big.0 -
Went out last night. Had 900+ calories spare for dinner. Ate some sourdough bread, 1 bottle of beer, 1 duck curry and some small shrimp. Woke up today and am 194 lbs. FOR *kitten* SAKE
The meal wasn't even that large!! So I probably hit 2700 cals - yet 4 lbs gain?!!??!
So you had a carb-heavy, salty dinner and you are surprised to see an increase on the scale the next day?21 -
Went out last night. Had 900+ calories spare for dinner. Ate some sourdough bread, 1 bottle of beer, 1 duck curry and some small shrimp. Woke up today and am 194 lbs. FOR *kitten* SAKE
The meal wasn't even that large!! So I probably hit 2700 cals - yet 4 lbs gain?!!??!
You didn't track it--how do you know you didn't exceed your calories??? Restaurant food is notoriously high in sodium. Seriously--start tracking/limiting your sodium and your weight loss will come.
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Went out last night. Had 900+ calories spare for dinner. Ate some sourdough bread, 1 bottle of beer, 1 duck curry and some small shrimp. Woke up today and am 194 lbs. FOR *kitten* SAKE
The meal wasn't even that large!! So I probably hit 2700 cals - yet 4 lbs gain?!!??!
"Went out for dinner, had a bunch of sodium and carbs plus some alcohol to dehydrate me, all of which cause water retention and likely have not fully digested so they're sitting my gut. And now I'm up four pounds!"
At this point there's nothing that we can do to help you. You insist on obsessing over minutiae and won't listen to reason. You're making yourself stressed out over nothing and won't see reason.16 -
I have the same problem if I eat gluten, the water weight stays for 5 days. If I have gluten before the water weight disappears, I add on another several pounds. My guess is that you're reacting this way to either sodium or gluten. You might want to back off of both for a few weeks and see if the weight drops off. You can then add one in to see if it's the culprit.
As far as being hungry, try building your meals around protein and vegetables. If you have a huge salad with every meal, piled high with cucumbers, peppers, etc. you'll be full from volume for few calories (if you control the dressing).7 -
Went out last night. Had 900+ calories spare for dinner. Ate some sourdough bread, 1 bottle of beer, 1 duck curry and some small shrimp. Woke up today and am 194 lbs. FOR *kitten* SAKE
The meal wasn't even that large!! So I probably hit 2700 cals - yet 4 lbs gain?!!??!
Again for the cheap seats at the back! Long. Term. Trend. FFS.8
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