Really Scared. Out of Control

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  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 31,966 Member
    mfpchris wrote: »
    A disclaimer, it's all personal, but I believe the common belief is that "fat" is what makes us feel more satiated. You wrote "protein." Of course they all do, and each contributes, but increasing your ratio to include more fats might be a good experiment. @DebLaBounty wrote about cheese, nuts, etc. Give yourself permission for let's say two days, to add these into, above, and beyond your target, and see if it helps hit the ravenous reset button.

    It seeks to be very individual. Some people are satiated by fats, some by protein, some by volume (often fiber-rich veggies), some few even by carbs, usually complex ones. It takes experimenting.

    I'm a protein-plus-volume gal, myself.

    OP, experimenting is good, but you've been at this a while. I'd +1 your insight about activity/exercise, and the diet break (couple weeks) idea.

    For me, healing seemed to make my body benefit from some extra calories, even if that slowed weight loss for a bit. Perhaps your dental surgery had that effect on you, dunno.
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
    I get beastly hungry and super tired in the fall. I feel like eating everything in sight and sleeping all day. Making sure I get a lot of light during this time helps. B)
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    I went through something similar the last few months and I think (and have good reason to believe) it was a medication I was on. It didn't start until I'd been on the med a few months, but now that I'm off of it, I'm back to normal.
  • cherys
    cherys Posts: 387 Member
    Also, is it possible you've got into an eating pattern that might be denying your body some essential vitamin or mineral? I find sometimes crazy hunger comes from actually needing something very specific but not knowing what it is. Could you try taking a multivitamin and mineral supplement every morning to see if that calms things down. Also, I found when I was growing a stomach ulcer that I kept thinking I was starving - it was all the bubbling acids (gross - sorry). As soon as I took an antacid, the 'hunger' vanished. Certain types of calorie control can lead to stomach ulcers.
  • mph323
    mph323 Posts: 3,565 Member
    jenilla1 wrote: »
    I get beastly hungry and super tired in the fall. I feel like eating everything in sight and sleeping all day. Making sure I get a lot of light during this time helps. B)

    This is my experience too. I think your idea of maintaining until you have a better handle on what's going on is a really good approach.
  • LAWoman72
    LAWoman72 Posts: 2,846 Member
    Our weather hasn't changed very drastically yet...I live in SoCal...it was very very hot, now it's 70s-80s depending on the day...OTOH, there's less daylight, so...? Hmmm.

    I just checked maintenance...1570...that sounds sooooooo relaxing.
  • MARILYNENA
    MARILYNENA Posts: 53 Member
    When I get the crazy hungries: I fill up with 1# raw greens and 1# cooked veggies and if I am still hungry I eat 1c beans......and then I am satisfied.
  • batorkin
    batorkin Posts: 281 Member
    edited November 2017
    LAWoman72 wrote: »
    You know...I just thought of something. I cut back a little on exercise since my dental surgery (in July) and I don't think I ever really got back up to my former levels. It's 3X/week + almost daily walking now and before it had been 5-6 days/week. That couldn't be it...could it?

    For me, regular exercise cuts my hunger levels down significantly. I exercise daily because of this...

    If I don't exercise, I eat and eat and eat. 2000-3000 calories a day. When I exercise regularly, I struggle to even reach 1200 calories. Most days I have to "eat more" towards the end of the day because I am not eating enough.

    I don't know if I am weird, but for me exercising is the key to maintaining my diet.
  • johnwelk
    johnwelk Posts: 396 Member
    jennk5309 wrote: »
    johnwelk wrote: »
    Sunna_W wrote: »
    Sometimes it is hormonal... but only you and your doctor can say for sure. Get a physical from a doctor that is going to spend more than 15 minutes with you, preferably someone with a background in hormonal management. Your hormones can make you crazy and make you hate your life. You want a doctor that will work with you to balance your hormones, check your thyroid (based on your symptoms, not your blood tests), and possibly also prescribe something to support your adrenals. High cortisol / spikes can make you ravenous.

    Ref:
    http://www.drnorthrup.com/adrenal-exhaustion/
    http://www.drnorthrup.com/estrogen-dominance/
    http://www.saragottfriedmd.com/why-do-i-feel-disconnected-the-cortisol-oxytocin-connection/
    https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/things-we-have-learned/
    https://www.drlam.com/blog/estrogen-dominance-part-1/1704/
    https://www.womentowomen.com/hormonal-health/estrogen-dominance/
    https://www.yourhormones.com/adrenal-fatigue/
    https://www.yourhormones.com/signs-symptoms/

    Also, while this is controversial, in my own experience, by cutting out sugar (little to no fruit, alcohol, desserts, candy) and by getting most of my carbs (I try to stay around 100 grams of carbs to ensure my thyroid can function) from beans, sweet potatoes and resistant starch) and increasing my good fat intake and protein, I don't have many wacky fluctuations. Admittedly I am post menopause but I am on natural HRT as well as taking 7-keto DHEA and a nutri meds adrenal supplement (80 mg.), so I do have some fluctuations...

    You need GOOD FAT to help you feel full. I incorporate 2 TBSP of peanut butter (just peanuts and oil) into my Arsenic Hour of Power Snack in the afternoons with a cup of hot tea. I also sometimes just slice off a piece of grass fed butter and eat it or some coconut cream. You need fat if you are cutting out sugar and carbs.

    I also eat organic chicken skin, fat from the occasional piece of beef and bacon. Just incorporate the calories as part of your overall allowed level.

    https://www.westonaprice.org/abcs-of-nutrition/

    Eating fat helped me immensely.

    There is also a body of knowledge out there regarding women with PCOS who also have some blood sugar issues who have found that the Atkins / Paleo / Keto diets help their blood sugar stay more even and that their hormones aren't all over the place.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1334192/

    Good luck!

    OP, please ignore this post. It's complete pseudoscienctific garbage. None of it is supported by science in anyway, shape or form. All the websites linked are pure nonsense. Adrenal fatigue and estrogen dominance are non existent diseases.

    No, it's not complete nonsense. Read Bright Lines by Susan Thompson, a neuroscientist. She has reference after reference in the appendix to legitimate, peer reviewed scientific studies on the hormonal underpinnings of appetite. Insulin spikes from refined foods like sugar and refined flour block leptin receptors in people's brains, making them feel hungry all the time. I don't k,ow about adrenal fatigue or estrogen dominance, but the dietary advice is sound.

    I don't get nutrition and diet information from a book, they are generally one sided and sensationalistic. But I'm sure she researched all the available evidence and presented a balanced view of her pet hypothesis. Since you're familiar with the material why don't you post some of the research and let's see if it agrees with what she says.
  • Lillymoo01
    Lillymoo01 Posts: 2,865 Member
    DebLaBounty wrote: »
    I found it helpful for me to add healthy fats like an ounce of cheese with an apple, a small portion of nuts (almonds or cashews are favorites for me), half an avocado sprinkled with a seasoning called Spike. I found these snacks got me through hunger pangs. Also, I've found that when winter approaches, with its cold temperatures and gray skies, I'm more apt to be much hungrier. My doctor said it's possible to have an onset of a low grade bout of Seasonal Affective Disorder, which can affect eating habits. I bought a light box that I sat next to when I read the morning paper at breakfast and that helped.

    This is the first thing that came to mind. My guess is that your fat consumption has decreased when you cut back on eggs while increasing chicken. For some this can make a huge difference with hunger.
  • davidylin
    davidylin Posts: 228 Member
    davidylin wrote: »
    If you notice significant and profound changes in what you are feeling, you should get checked out by the doctor.
    Actually, I think I've noticed a new trend for myself. I've also been starving the last couple days and I think the sudden drop in temperature, change in weather, and the end in daylight savings time are affecting me.

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