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Are abs made in the kitchen?
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Its a two pronged attack. You have to uncover the abs to see them (deficit) but you should also be building something to show (ab work)0
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I got to 7.5% body fat (measured by Bod Pod) before I included strength training in my routine, and only had the earliest beginnings of abs.
So yes, in my experience you have to build muscle and maintain low body fat.0 -
Nutrition/calorie deficit for weight loss, exercise for fitness/physique improvements. It's much easier to create a caloric deficit with nutrition than to try to do it with exercise. However, depending on one's goals and if you really want what most perceive to be a "fit" physique you'll need to do some exercise. Beyond that, the exercise needs to match the goal physique; training for and running marathons likely isn't going to produce the desired physique if the goal is to look like a gymnast or bodybuilder.0
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article in this week's Health magazine, study shows that doing ab exercises does not burn ab fat. Probably something most have already known, but interesting study validated it. Ab exercise can build ab muscle and calorie deficit eliminates fat (and muscle, arggg) evenly across your body.0
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Abs are made through progressive resistance training...they are revealed in the kitchen.1
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Genetics, diet, strength training... in that order.2
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NorthCascades wrote: »
The better question is how bad is bad.0 -
You can exercise your way out of a bad or mediocre diet, so long as you control calories or do sufficient exercise that even with a bad diet you don't overeat.
Of course, if by a bad diet one means "more calories than one is burning," then it's a tautology.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »You can exercise your way out of a bad or mediocre diet, so long as you control calories or do sufficient exercise that even with a bad diet you don't overeat.
Of course, if by a bad diet one means "more calories than one is burning," then it's a tautology.
You can certainly outrun a twinkie or a Bacon cheeseburger.
It's unlikely that you can outrun a box of twinkies and 4 bacon cheeseburgers7 -
I really don't think a bacon cheeseburger can run that fast.
Ba-dum-dum!
(Yes, I'll be here all day, please tip your waitress!)10 -
stanmann571 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »You can exercise your way out of a bad or mediocre diet, so long as you control calories or do sufficient exercise that even with a bad diet you don't overeat.
Of course, if by a bad diet one means "more calories than one is burning," then it's a tautology.
You can certainly outrun a twinkie or a Bacon cheeseburger.
It's unlikely that you can outrun a box of twinkies and 4 bacon cheeseburgers
So thhhaaaaaaat's what I've been doing wrong...1 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »I really don't think a bacon cheeseburger can run that fast.
Ba-dum-dum!
(Yes, I'll be here all day, please tip your waitress!)
Now I have a mental image of a guy who's trapped in an alley surrounded by 4 bacon cheeseburgers wearing angry looks and 8 twinkies with tire irons.5 -
I love how we can analyze anything to death here
. And I'm not being snarky - I really do love it, I don't know anyone IRL who is as interested in this stuff as I am 
I believe "Abs are made in the kitchen" or "Abs are made in the gym and revealed in the kitchen" or " You can't out-exercise a bad diet" are all said to mean that if you don't get a handle on your diet, you are probably not going to get the body you want because it's hard to create a deficit just through exercise and an increase in exercise will often cause a sub-conscious increase in appetite and a feeling of having done something you should reward yourself for, often with an extra snack that negates the calorie burn. But that wouldn't fit on the tee shirt.5 -
stanmann571 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »You can exercise your way out of a bad or mediocre diet, so long as you control calories or do sufficient exercise that even with a bad diet you don't overeat.
Of course, if by a bad diet one means "more calories than one is burning," then it's a tautology.
You can certainly outrun a twinkie or a Bacon cheeseburger.
It's unlikely that you can outrun a box of twinkies and 4 bacon cheeseburgers
I'm not a runner, do you think it's possible to out-kickbox a cheeseburger? I do have a pretty mean uppercut.1 -
More seriously, I mean bad diet as in eats whatever one wants, including lots of so-called fast food or junk food, doesn't really pay attention to portions, doesn't think about nutrition at all, rarely eats vegetables. I've known several people in those categories who are also extremely active, and who remained thin.
You could be in these categories and not end up eating huge amounts of calories, as it just depends on personal preferences.
I even ate a pretty mediocre diet in college (I never was that into fast food and I ate vegetables, but I would eat lots of fries at the college snack bar and certainly drank to excess) and never paid attention to what I ate at all beyond what seemed tastiest of my available options, and yet didn't gain weight because I was active (and young).
Lots of the people I've known in this category WERE young, in fact, often young men.
The problem with outrunning ANY diet is that people whose diets are not controlled in some way are likely to just eat more. If you have a poor diet but are at maintenance and take measures to not add more food and are in shape enough to start running and biking the equivalent of 500 calories per day (unlikely, but who knows) from nothing, you will lose weight.
I am not recommending this, of course.0 -
stanmann571 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »You can exercise your way out of a bad or mediocre diet, so long as you control calories or do sufficient exercise that even with a bad diet you don't overeat.
Of course, if by a bad diet one means "more calories than one is burning," then it's a tautology.
You can certainly outrun a twinkie or a Bacon cheeseburger.
It's unlikely that you can outrun a box of twinkies and 4 bacon cheeseburgers
I'm not a runner, do you think it's possible to out-kickbox a cheeseburger? I do have a pretty mean uppercut.
I'd recommend BJJand trying to get it to Tap-Out3 -
stanmann571 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »You can exercise your way out of a bad or mediocre diet, so long as you control calories or do sufficient exercise that even with a bad diet you don't overeat.
Of course, if by a bad diet one means "more calories than one is burning," then it's a tautology.
You can certainly outrun a twinkie or a Bacon cheeseburger.
It's unlikely that you can outrun a box of twinkies and 4 bacon cheeseburgers
Challenge accepted!
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stanmann571 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »You can exercise your way out of a bad or mediocre diet, so long as you control calories or do sufficient exercise that even with a bad diet you don't overeat.
Of course, if by a bad diet one means "more calories than one is burning," then it's a tautology.
You can certainly outrun a twinkie or a Bacon cheeseburger.
It's unlikely that you can outrun a box of twinkies and 4 bacon cheeseburgers
Challenge accepted!
OK... This guy might be able to.0
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