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Thanks that’s really helpful. For most things it says on the box i.e steak pie what the calorie is per pie or per slice of bread so I go off that instead of measuring. I measure everything with electronic scales either per gram or once depending on how it’s logged on MFP. For the smoothie iv weighed it all out individually as I add to the blender and then saved it on my fitness pal as half a cup. I think for some things like at the weekend when we was away it was a bit of a guess as we were at a hotel so I couldn’t be 100%0
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First thing, did you cut your calories to 1200 immediately?
If so, thats huge mistake.
Another thing 1200kcal is a starvation mode, even if you dont feel hungry,
it only means that your system used to it now.
Pretty sure metabolism is very slow as well.
If you do not see any progress in 1, 2 week time you should do some changes, and you saying its been a month!
Do you do any cardio, tabata, HIIT trainings?
Personally, I would recommend add up healthy fats at least up to 60-70g and sources of protein to 90-100g
Even carbs to 150g, u need to go gack to at least BMR kcal, otherwise you will mess up your hormones system.
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bossmanbing2102 wrote: »Thanks that’s really helpful. For most things it says on the box i.e steak pie what the calorie is per pie or per slice of bread so I go off that instead of measuring. I measure everything with electronic scales either per gram or once depending on how it’s logged on MFP. For the smoothie iv weighed it all out individually as I add to the blender and then saved it on my fitness pal as half a cup. I think for some things like at the weekend when we was away it was a bit of a guess as we were at a hotel so I couldn’t be 100%
For prepackaged food, the measurements can be off a fair bit; some are lower, some are higher. So always weigh each item and go by the gram weight, not per slice/piece.
Guess work can make things quite difficult but if you tighten up everything else and do not have to do too much guess work, it shouldn't affect things much.First thing, did you cut your calories to 1200 immediately?
If so, thats huge mistake.
Another thing 1200kcal is a starvation mode, even if you dont feel hungry,
it only means that your system used to it now.
Pretty sure metabolism is very slow as well.
If you do not see any progress in 1, 2 week time you should do some changes, and you saying its been a month!
Do you do any cardio, tabata, HIIT trainings?
Personally, I would recommend add up healthy fats at least up to 60-70g and sources of protein to 90-100g
Even carbs to 150g, u need to go gack to at least BMR kcal, otherwise you will mess up your hormones system.
Starvation mode is a myth. OP's metabolism and hormones are most likely fine; they just need to tighten up logging.0 -
i only looked at a couple of days but do you use food scales? everything is in cups or tablespoons or exactly 100g portion sizes?1
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bossmanbing2102 wrote: »How much water should I drink a day. I thought I was drinking loads.
Somewhere between zero and lots.
There is no set amount or formula that applies to everyone under all conditions.
Unless you have a suspicion you are dehydrated it's an irrelevance.
All you need is enough hydrating liquids (that's just about anything) to stay hydrated.
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First thing, did you cut your calories to 1200 immediately?
If so, thats huge mistake.
Another thing 1200kcal is a starvation mode, even if you dont feel hungry,
it only means that your system used to it now.
Pretty sure metabolism is very slow as well.
If you do not see any progress in 1, 2 week time you should do some changes, and you saying its been a month!
Do you do any cardio, tabata, HIIT trainings?
Personally, I would recommend add up healthy fats at least up to 60-70g and sources of protein to 90-100g
Even carbs to 150g, u need to go gack to at least BMR kcal, otherwise you will mess up your hormones system.
nope nope nope nope....6 -
My money is on on combination of the constipation OP states she experiences and normal fluctuations.2
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A month isn't very long - especially if your first day was a day when you were unusually light.
Tracking your weight over an extended period of time will reveal your personal normal fluctuations, day to day, weekday to weekend, monthly......
You can improve your food tracking accuracy a lot by ditching spoons and cups as measurements. You also have a lot of suspiciously round numbers of grams for your entries.
Ignore the wild speculation about metabolism or "starvation mode". Facebook science at its very best!
Be patient and be a bit more accurate - the results will follow. It really is just as simple as eating a bit less than you need for an extended period of time.
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What does OPs metabolism mean?1
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bossmanbing2102 wrote: »What does OPs metabolism mean?
OP = original poster (you) or original post (your initial post).0 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »My money is on on combination of the constipation OP states she experiences and normal fluctuations.
and not very accurate logging.2 -
yes yes yes,
How do you expect here to lose more weight?
Cut more calories?
The fundamental thing is here to count calories, do not eat highly processed food and ready to eat... , add some workouts.
Do you think if she adds up slowly to 2000kcal and Add 1 cardiovascular and HIIT session shes gonna put weight? blah nope.
Then cut carbs slowly, keep the protein high not a rocket science...
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yes yes yes,
How do you expect here to lose more weight?
Cut more calories?
The fundamental thing is here to count calories, do not eat highly processed food and ready to eat... , add some workouts.
Do you think if she adds up slowly to 2000kcal and Add 1 cardiovascular and HIIT session shes gonna put weight? blah nope.
Then cut carbs slowly, keep the protein high not a rocket science...
You don't need to cut out any type of food - including highly processed food and ready to eat food - to lose weight.
You don't need to workout to lose weight.
You don't need to cut carbs to lose weight.
You don't need to keep protein high.
I don't work out. I eat "highly processed" food (no idea what your definition is for that but I'm sure what I eat will count) and ready to eat food. I eat carbs including *gasp* potatoes, white bread, white rice, and non-whole wheat pasta! I am losing weight.
You know what you need? A caloric deficit.8 -
yes yes yes,
How do you expect here to lose more weight?
Cut more calories?
The fundamental thing is here to count calories, do not eat highly processed food and ready to eat... , add some workouts.
Do you think if she adds up slowly to 2000kcal and Add 1 cardiovascular and HIIT session shes gonna put weight? blah nope.
Then cut carbs slowly, keep the protein high not a rocket science...
As 2000 cals is an average amount for an average woman (OP is only 5'2"....) to maintain weight then your plan is badly flawed for weight loss!
Carbs don't make people fat either.
Exercise calories should be eaten back.
Stop complicating what is a simple process.6 -
I've asked question then you didnt guys respond yet, if not workouts, not cutting calories, then?
She's on 1200 now, I am really looking forward what your alternative solution for losing more weight is
Other than that you comparing her to yourself,
Jaycete she's obviously on deficit right now...7 -
I've asked question then you didnt guys respond yet, if not workouts, not cutting calories, then?
She's on 1200 now, I am really looking forward what your alternative solution for losing more weight is
Other than that you comparing her to yourself,
Jaycete she's obviously on deficit right now...
Except she's not. We've already pointed out the issue: inaccurate logging. So far she doesn't even have a deficit for November.
And it's not about comparing myself to her. It's about basic science.5 -
I've asked question then you didnt guys respond yet, if not workouts, not cutting calories, then?
She's on 1200 now, I am really looking forward what your alternative solution for losing more weight is
Other than that you comparing her to yourself,
Jaycete she's obviously on deficit right now...
How? Accurate logging and patience.
1 month with constipation and new exercise is not enough time for a female to determine if the weight gain is from water fluctuations (hormones, sodium intake, etc)/lack of bowel movements, especially without knowing how often the OP is weighing.
If I had less datapoints from infrequent weighing it could look like I am up 5lbs from one week to the next, but I haven't gained fat, it's just water retention from my menstrual cycle and when I tend to eat a couple more carbs. 4 days later that weight is gone.
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I think I’m going to increase my Cals to 1500 and eat more fruit with the extra.0
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I've asked question then you didnt guys respond yet, if not workouts, not cutting calories, then?
She's on 1200 now, I am really looking forward what your alternative solution for losing more weight is
Other than that you comparing her to yourself,
Jaycete she's obviously on deficit right now...
well OP probably isn't eating 1200 cals, so that's the first issue...
as has already been stated 2000 is often maintenance or a surplus for a small woman, so how is that going to lead to weight loss?
and there is no need to cut out any food groups as you have suggested, so that's a big old nope...4 -
bossmanbing2102 wrote: »I think I’m going to increase my Cals to 1500 and eat more fruit with the extra.
Please start with accurate logging. If you don't log accurately, that 1,500 calories could be anywhere from 1,500 to 2,000 calories.5 -
bossmanbing2102 wrote: »I think I’m going to increase my Cals to 1500 and eat more fruit with the extra.
eating more is not going to help you if you are not being accurate with your logging...3 -
Well, if she hasnt noticed any changes in mirror, weight or waist seize for a month, then definitely something has been done wrong here.
At the beginning she supposed to set up calorie intake of her BMR and set up macros for that 1g/kg fat 1,5g/kg protein and the rest carbs.
Then observe if any changes if not, add 1 session of workout, then observe, then up to her another session or cut from carbs, simply as that...
There is no need to go for 1200kcal !!!
She could easily lose weight being on more calories than that
But the key here is to count your calories intake...11 -
Well, if she hasnt noticed any changes in mirror, weight or waist seize for a month, then definitely something has been done wrong here.
At the beginning she supposed to set up calorie intake of her BMR and set up macros for that 1g/kg fat 1,5g/kg protein and the rest carbs.
Then observe if any changes if not, add 1 session of workout, then observe, then up to her another session or cut from carbs, simply as that...
There is no need to go for 1200kcal !!!
She could easily lose weight being on more calories than that
But the key here is to count your calories intake...
You do realise OP's BMR at her height/weight is only around 1300 calories and maintenance is only around 1600? How can she lose weight on a lot more calories?5 -
Well, if she hasnt noticed any changes in mirror, weight or waist seize for a month, then definitely something has been done wrong here.
At the beginning she supposed to set up calorie intake of her BMR and set up macros for that 1g/kg fat 1,5g/kg protein and the rest carbs.
Then observe if any changes if not, add 1 session of workout, then observe, then up to her another session or cut from carbs, simply as that...
There is no need to go for 1200kcal !!!
She could easily lose weight being on more calories than that
But the key here is to count your calories intake...
Why should macros be set up like that?
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bossmanbing2102 wrote: »That’s really helpful. Now I think about it when I got weighed last I had just done a 16 hour fast for blood tests
Scales in doctor's offices are often not accurate. Plus they usually weigh you with all your clothes on even your shoes.
Weigh yourself at home, without clothes, at the same time, using the same scale.
I weigh myself once a week in the morning before eating anything.0 -
Thanks guys. I clearly need to log things more accurately and not rely on selecting from MFP options coz like u said other people put them on so I’m relying on them getting it right. Your advise has been really useful. Let’s hope I start to see a shift I really want to beat this.7
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Well, if she hasnt noticed any changes in mirror, weight or waist seize for a month, then definitely something has been done wrong here.
At the beginning she supposed to set up calorie intake of her BMR and set up macros for that 1g/kg fat 1,5g/kg protein and the rest carbs.
Then observe if any changes if not, add 1 session of workout, then observe, then up to her another session or cut from carbs, simply as that...
There is no need to go for 1200kcal !!!
She could easily lose weight being on more calories than that
But the key here is to count your calories intake...
Why should macros be set up like that?
I just gave an example of balanced diet - macros.
Keep the fat 1g/kg body mass(you can cut at the last weeks of cutting) - if you keep fat very very low for long periods it may affect hormone imbalance.
When it comes to losing weight, protein is the king of nutrients. Keep you full longer.Helps to maintain muscle level.
Carbs, rest of balance and we should start cutting them as a first option.
If you decide go to keto(less than 30g carbs daily intake) for a while thats fine, but wisely.
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Well, if she hasnt noticed any changes in mirror, weight or waist seize for a month, then definitely something has been done wrong here.
At the beginning she supposed to set up calorie intake of her BMR and set up macros for that 1g/kg fat 1,5g/kg protein and the rest carbs.
Then observe if any changes if not, add 1 session of workout, then observe, then up to her another session or cut from carbs, simply as that...
There is no need to go for 1200kcal !!!
She could easily lose weight being on more calories than that
But the key here is to count your calories intake...
Why should macros be set up like that?
I just gave an example of balanced diet - macros.
Keep the fat 1g/kg body mass(you can cut at the last weeks of cutting) - if you keep fat very very low for long periods it may affect hormone imbalance.
When it comes to losing weight, protein is the king of nutrients. Keep you full longer.Helps to maintain muscle level.
Carbs, rest of balance and we should start cutting them as a first option.
If you decide go to keto(less than 30g carbs daily intake) for a while thats fine, but wisely.
If your suggested macro split is just one of many examples one could use, it might be better to make that clear instead of writing that OP is supposed to use the particular one you recommend.
While many people do find that protein promotes satiety for them, this isn't universal. For other people, fat or carbohydrates (or fiber) play an important role in helping them feel satisfied.2 -
TavistockToad wrote: »I've asked question then you didnt guys respond yet, if not workouts, not cutting calories, then?
She's on 1200 now, I am really looking forward what your alternative solution for losing more weight is
Other than that you comparing her to yourself,
Jaycete she's obviously on deficit right now...
well OP probably isn't eating 1200 cals, so that's the first issue...
as has already been stated 2000 is often maintenance or a surplus for a small woman, so how is that going to lead to weight loss?
and there is no need to cut out any food groups as you have suggested, so that's a big old nope...
Quite - I'm 5' 1'' and maintain my current weight quite happily on 2000kcal. Unfortunately I'm seriously obese!
Weighing things really does help. I often have peanut butter in my breakfast; one spoonful of that can easily vary by 50kcal for instance. It's easy to sit the bowl on the scale while I weigh in oats, peanut butter, milk and sweetener though
I find exercise helps too - I probably underestimate the amount of calories I burn running so that helps to make up for any underestimates in food. How are you counting calories from exercise at the moment?0 -
Right, everyone is different.
I'm just suggesting not saying you have to apply my idea to your diet and lifestyle.
It takes time to get to know your body and see what's best OPTION you react - either LC or LF.
Be patient, count your damn calories intake, if you kept your calories for such a long time and is going well but feeling tired? have a cheat meal after good workout - it won't ruin your hard work trust me and you would feel much better mentally.4
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