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Charlieneedles
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Are there any vegans here, new or veteran to the lifestyle, who want to chat about our fitness journeys. We can add each other and talk about food choices! Here’s hoping
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I’ve been about 80% vegan for the last three weeks....planning to give it a full shot for two months starting in January!5
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I'm vegetarian and am in transition to veganism. Would love some vegan buddies to share meals and whatnot with! I just restarted MFP today so it's really cool to find this post!2
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Hi guys thanks for posting! I definitely am ready to share meal recipes and ideas! I cook all the time so I’ll post everything I can!1
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I’m still only 80%1
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How long have you been vegan?0
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I'm vegan (since sept 2017). so im still new and adjusting was interesting. I was an omnivore and then I was like, I'm gona try veganism, and here I am some changes to regular things I used to eat so it makes transitioning easier. soy creamer instead of cream (works well in cream of corn, mash potatoes, coffee), and if you like/ use almond milk, but dont like the aml;mondy hint it leaves in the coffee add some soy creamer and it omits the almond taste tofu fingers or tofingers lol are excellent, use the soy creamer/ almond milk and spices as to help hold the bread crumbs to the tofu. tastes great with Ketchup. and check labels when buysing/ eating food to ensure there isnt any milk or eggs etc.4
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vegan for almost 4 years now, love to meet some others on here with like-minds adding you now girl, excited to share in the veg health!2
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I’ve been vegan for all of 2months, but I’m in it for the long haul! I’ve really fallen in love with tofu and want to try my hand at seitan meats, but so bar I’m just having troubles with non soy proteins.
I’m not afraid of soy, but I don’t want to eat tofu for every meal. I do love it but I love variety more
Suggestions?
I don’t buy packaged faux meats except for treats.0 -
Charlieneedles wrote: »I’ve been vegan for all of 2months, but I’m in it for the long haul! I’ve really fallen in love with tofu and want to try my hand at seitan meats, but so bar I’m just having troubles with non soy proteins.
I’m not afraid of soy, but I don’t want to eat tofu for every meal. I do love it but I love variety more
Suggestions?
I don’t buy packaged faux meats except for treats.
I do eat soy, but I also get a lot of protein from seitan and beans. The protein in grains, vegetables, and nuts/seeds rounds it out, along with sometimes some protein powder (usually pea protein).2 -
Question... How did you guys eliminate cheese? Cheese is like the main thing I'm struggling with. I also love sweets but that's another conversation. Haha.2
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blackthumbnails wrote: »Question... How did you guys eliminate cheese? Cheese is like the main thing I'm struggling with. I also love sweets but that's another conversation. Haha.
The first step for me was figuring out why I wanted to avoid cheese. For me, it's an ethical decision: I am not comfortable with what others must endure so I can eat cheese. Once I was clear on that, it was much easier.4 -
blackthumbnails wrote: »Question... How did you guys eliminate cheese? Cheese is like the main thing I'm struggling with. I also love sweets but that's another conversation. Haha.
I’ve only been vegan since September and the thing that helped me was finding alternatives to cheese. You can soak cashews to make vegan cheese (which is delicious). Homemade Cashew cheese is my favorite alternative but there are plenty of cheese replacements to choose from. Wegmans has a large selection.
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I am transition to a vegetarian diet (not for weight loss) but this is my first week so I'm not ready to label myself just yet. Tried tofu for the first time today. Eh.. I probably won't have it again unless I find new ways to eat it. It was in soup so it was just mushy and no flavor to it even though the soup was full of flavor! I don't think I want rely on substitutes just yet.0
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alondrakayy wrote: »I am transition to a vegetarian diet (not for weight loss) but this is my first week so I'm not ready to label myself just yet. Tried tofu for the first time today. Eh.. I probably won't have it again unless I find new ways to eat it. It was in soup so it was just mushy and no flavor to it even though the soup was full of flavor! I don't think I want rely on substitutes just yet.
Tofu is capable of many different flavors and textures. If someone doesn't like it the first time they try it, I always encourage them to try it someday again -- usually in a different type of dish.1 -
I don't think of tofu as a "substitute" (unless chicken is a substitute because it's not beef, lentils are a substitute because they aren't meat, etc.). It's a food with a long history of use in some cuisines and, as janejellyroll said, can be used in lots of different ways.
Back in the early '80s, my dad read about tofu and was excited to try it, but had no idea how to prepare it (and my mother who was not adventurous about food was extremely skeptical, so my sister and I were too). He had no clue and served basically a big slab of unseasoned baked tofu, as if it were a plain white slab of meat. Unsurprisingly, it was not tasty and put me off tofu until I had it in some pad thai a few years later and really enjoyed it (as part of the overall dish). Now I often prepare it really simply, but with seasoning (it seems to me to soak up seasoning and the taste of the surrounding ingredients really easily). One easy way is in a stir fry sauted with vegetables (I think this is great with Japanese 7 spice), but curries are also good options (thinking Asian curries as I'd normally do an Indian curry with different forms of protein, like chickpeas or lentils, but who knows). I'd also thumb through some tofu recipes in a vegan or maybe a Thai or Japanese cookbook.2 -
I've been vegan now for a good 3/4 months and have really enjoyed the health benefits. The biggest problem I find is eating out with non vegans, as not all restaurants accommodate to us! But that said, planning always helps. Here in the UK there is more and more alternatives to pretty much everything, which is great when organising a diet that can be (at times) quite strict!0
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Hi! I just started today.... am about 90% wfpb.... want to go 100% SOON. Sooooo glad to see this group of people!0
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Here is a pal for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFp1tQttgAo0 -
I've been vegetarian for two years and I'm now ready for the final push to get rid of the last of my dairy (basically cheese). I'm kinda letting the holidays wrap up before making it official and calling myself a vegan, just because I don't want to have THAT awkward conversation over the holidays. The house is vegan now (well, there may still be some non-vegan cookies) and I will make it official after the New Year.1
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blackthumbnails wrote: »Question... How did you guys eliminate cheese? Cheese is like the main thing I'm struggling with. I also love sweets but that's another conversation. Haha.
As for sweets.....ummmm, you can still have PLENTY of sweets and be vegan! You just do it without eggs and dairy! Unless you're doing a whole good, plant based thing, you don't have to eat nothing but veggies as a vegan. You just don't use things that exploit animals.
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I’ve been transitioning since June and the only thing I need to let go of is cheese and honey:( My main question for anyone that can help me pleaseeeeee what are your macros like ?!!0
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AmandaDanceMore wrote: »blackthumbnails wrote: »Question... How did you guys eliminate cheese? Cheese is like the main thing I'm struggling with. I also love sweets but that's another conversation. Haha.
Citation needed for that bold part.0 -
MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »AmandaDanceMore wrote: »blackthumbnails wrote: »Question... How did you guys eliminate cheese? Cheese is like the main thing I'm struggling with. I also love sweets but that's another conversation. Haha.
Citation needed for that bold part.
These articles have been all over the web for a couple of years. Surprised you haven't heard it. Not surprised at all, honestly, when I heard. I know how I am about cheese. It's a Yale study, so it's legit.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/cheese-triggers-the-same-part-of-brain-as-hard-drugs-study-finds-a6707011.html?amp
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mermaidbeasty wrote: »I’ve been transitioning since June and the only thing I need to let go of is cheese and honey:( My main question for anyone that can help me pleaseeeeee what are your macros like ?!!
I usually get about 50-60% of my calories from carbohydrates, 15-20% from protein, and 20-30% from fat.0 -
AmandaDanceMore wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »AmandaDanceMore wrote: »blackthumbnails wrote: »Question... How did you guys eliminate cheese? Cheese is like the main thing I'm struggling with. I also love sweets but that's another conversation. Haha.
Citation needed for that bold part.
These articles have been all over the web for a couple of years. Surprised you haven't heard it. Not surprised at all, honestly, when I heard. I know how I am about cheese. It's a Yale study, so it's legit.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/cheese-triggers-the-same-part-of-brain-as-hard-drugs-study-finds-a6707011.html?amp
So does holding babies, seeing rainbows and petting puppies (all of these trigger a dopamine response in the brain) ... are you saying that we need to give those up as well?
Also, here the conclusion from the actual study (not the hyped headlines that everyone latched onto)"
"CONCLUSION:
The current study provides preliminary evidence that not all foods are equally implicated in addictive-like eating behavior, and highly processed foods, which may share characteristics with drugs of abuse (e.g. high dose, rapid rate of absorption) appear to be particularly associated with "food addiction."
Please show me where that study draws the conclusion that cheese (or any other of the 'addictive' foods) are the same as cocaine?0 -
https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/scicurious/no-cheese-not-just-crack
"Cheese is a delicious invention. But if you saw the news last week, you might think it’s on its way to being classified as a Schedule II drug. Headlines proclaimed 'Say cheese? All the time? Maybe you have an addiction,' 'Cheese really is crack' and 'Your cheese addiction is real.' Under the headlines, the stories referred to a study examining the addictive properties of various foods. Pizza was at the top. The reason? The addictive properties of cheese, which the articles claim contains “dangerous” opiate-like chemicals called casomorphins.
But you can’t explain away your affinity for cheese by saying you’re addicted. The study in those stories, published earlier this year in PLOS ONE, did investigate which foods are most associated with addictive-like eating behaviors. Pizza did come out on top in one experiment. But the scientists who did the research say this has little to do with the delicious dairy products involved. Instead, they argue, the foods we crave the most are those processed to have high levels of sugars and fat, and it’s these ingredients that leave us coming back for another slice. The cheese? Probably superfluous.
'I was horrified by the misstatements and the oversimplifications … and the statements about how it’s an excuse to overeat,' says Ashley Gearhardt of the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, who led the study. 'Liking is not the same as addiction. We like lots of things. I like hip-hop music and sunshine and my wiener dog, but I’m not addicted to her. I eat cheese every day. That’s doesn’t mean you’re addicted or it has addictive potential.'..."
And on the actual study:
"When the researchers measured ranked how frequently a food was 'problematic' for the participants, cheese wasn’t even in the top 10. It limped in at 16 out of 35, blown away by chocolate (number 1), french fries and pizza (numbers 3 and 4), buttered popcorn (number 8), and even gummy candy (number 12 — there’s no accounting for taste). When the second group was asked to rank foods on a scale of 1 to 7, cheese did a little better, at number 10. But again, it was outclassed by pizza, chocolate, chips, french fries and more."...
A really important distinction between how food and drugs use the reward systems in the brain, and why this comparison is so misleading:
"But cheese and cocaine do have something in common other than both starting with the letter “c.” Cheese, like other foods, stimulates the reward system in the brain. 'We know there are these areas of the brain, reward circuits involved in keeping us alive,' says Joseph Frascella, a neuroscientist at the National Institute on Drug Abuse in Bethesda, Md. 'They are systems that signal to us when something we do is good, like eating, procreating or drinking water when you’re thirsty.' These systems are necessary to let us know what our bodies need and teach us to seek it out.
And these are the same systems in the brain that addictive drugs exploit. “Drugs of abuse hit these same pathways and they tend to do it much more effectively,” Frascella explains. “So you get that rush, that high, and the brain says, ‘wow that’s good for us, do it again.’”
But while cheese might be able to give you good feelings, when it comes to addictive properties, the cheddar cannot compare. “Addictive drugs do things that food doesn’t do that make them more addictive,” says Peter Kalivas, a neuroscientist at the Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston. “To put [those foods] on par with something like cocaine is pretty inflammatory.”"
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“Understanding how food is rewarding and how it might overlap with addictive drugs is an interesting question,” Kalivas says. 'Studies like this, to me, kind of state the obvious. Food that’s palatable, people will find more problematic'....”2 -
AmandaDanceMore wrote: »These articles have been all over the web for a couple of years. Surprised you haven't heard it. Not surprised at all, honestly, when I heard. I know how I am about cheese. It's a Yale study, so it's legit.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/cheese-triggers-the-same-part-of-brain-as-hard-drugs-study-finds-a6707011.html?amp
If you actually read the study, you'll see that it's design is pretty bad (with the popular press articles about it being even worse).
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0117959
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Goodness! I was asked to cite the study, I did. I think it is an eye opener and something to bare in mind, as vegetarians who want to go vegan but say "BUT CHEESE!" It can help you realign your perspective. I never said it was as addictive as cocaine (I said it triggered the same things). Take it or leave it.
And petting puppies and holding babies and looking at rainbows isn't causing cows to be separated from the calves and the male calves to be raised and slaughtered for veal....so, ya know. Consequences.0 -
AmandaDanceMore wrote: »Goodness! I was asked to cite the study, I did. I think it is an eye opener and something to bare in mind, as vegetarians who want to go vegan but say "BUT CHEESE!" It can help you realign your perspective. I never said it was as addictive as cocaine (I said it triggered the same things). Take it or leave it.
And petting puppies and holding babies and looking at rainbows isn't causing cows to be separated from the calves and the male calves to be raised and slaughtered for veal....so, ya know. Consequences.
The initial claim ("Keep in mind that cheese triggers similar things in your brain that hard drugs do. It is literally addictive.") doesn't have anything to do with the consequences to others when we choose to eat cheese. You're conflating two completely different things here.
The first is an argument to avoid cheese because it is addictive and represents a potential harm to self.
The second is an argument to avoid cheese because it creates negative consequences for others.
So when someone says that petting puppies is as potentially addictive in the same way as eating cheese, switching suddenly to the second argument doesn't make much sense. If the consequences to *others* are why we should avoid cheese, why not lead with that argument?
It's stuff like this that leads people to sometimes make negative conclusions about the intellectual honesty of vegans. Leading with an argument that cheese is harmful and switching to a completely different argument when the claim is discredited isn't an overall help to our movement.2 -
Me! I've been vegan for almost 8 months, coming up on 8 months this Friday! I would love more vegan friends. = )0
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