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cdlee05mfp wrote: »Here's a few keto resources I've liked that are also free:
Diet Doctor (online for recipes)
Ketogenic Diet Food & Recipes (on Facebook)
Thomas DeLauer (on Facebook or online)
Keto Talks w/Jimmy Moore (if you like podcasts)
Some resources on CICO and what fad diets are:
MFP forums...this is also free, lol.
It's so hard to do keto and MFP forums because every time i read through them i end up having to bring my popcorn and it throws me out of ketosis.
There are lots of people doing keto on MFP. They just understand that regardless of what way of eating you subscribe to, the very basic laws of energy and physics show that you have to eat less calories than you burn to lose weight. CICO isn't a diet, it's a shorthand for the equation for energy balance in the body.
OP, keto can work very well for those who are satiated by fat and not satiated by carbs. I know several people who easily stick to their calorie goal eating keto or low carb. I actually don't find fat filling - I tend to overeat stuff like nuts, chicken thighs, cheese, etc that's pretty much how I gained weight - and feel much better eating a moderate carb/high fiber diet, so it wouldn't be a good fit for me.
There is also a Low Carb group here where you can find more people who eat that way, it's usually one of the links on the right hand side on the forum home page.3 -
I have multiple health issues and keto has opened up so many doors for me. I have been able to get off certain medications and feel so much better. Keto is sustainable as a lifestyle if you are committed. For me I physically feel better and when you have been as sick as I you most certainly will do what it takes to keep feeling better. I do miss certain things but when I remember how sick I was and how much better I feel now I no longer want it.5
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I tried Keto at first, had some success but then my weight loss stalled. When I didn't see success I gave up and gained all the weight back because I honestly love carbs and I hated giving them up. Once I learned about CICO I understood why I gained, I was eating too much.
Follow Keto if it's sustainable for you, by sustainable I mean that you can see yourself doing it for the rest of your life. Ultimately even when you do get to goal weight you're gonna be maintaining your goal weight. Which will be really hard to do if you don't like the way you eat.3 -
wow, some BS keto advise in here. "eat more fat, and then eat more fat." or "eat as much bacon as you want." < that is 100% pure nonsense and horrible advise to give someone. The ketogenic diet is not some magically diet. You do NOT magically lose weight because you switch to keto. It's all about caloric deficit. I've seen many people get fat as *kitten* cause they thought they could eat as much fat as they wanted too.6
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I’ve just started Keto to! Still trying to get used to it!3
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For more insight as to why low carb (keto) works, read :The Obesity Code" by Dr. Jason Fung. He proposes that weight loss is hormonal and not tied up in the science of thermodynamics (CICO -calories in/calories out).
Certainly there are those so addicted to carbs that keto could never work for them, so I get why they may choose the CICO routine.
For me, keto helped me beat T2 diabetes, reduce bodyfat, lower cholesterol and triglycerides, and along with Intermittent Fasting, is helping me lose weight without the resulting loose skin, as well as many other benefits touted by research.
As said before, to each their own. Good luck!11 -
I say try it. If keto is right for you it will come naturally. There is no one size fits all approach to lifestyle. I was vegan for years and felt great. However, my lifestyle changed and I was struggling majorly sustaining. Now I eat a high fat diet... similar to keto but less strict. I can’t do strict. I’m feeling pretty good. Healthfulpursuit.com has been very helpful. Plus, the Healthful Pursuit podcast. Good luck!!3
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ketofire51 wrote: »For more insight as to why low carb (keto) works, read :The Obesity Code" by Dr. Jason Fung. He proposes that weight loss is hormonal and not tied up in the science of thermodynamics (CICO -calories in/calories out).
Certainly there are those so addicted to carbs that keto could never work for them, so I get why they may choose the CICO routine.
For me, keto helped me beat T2 diabetes, reduce bodyfat, lower cholesterol and triglycerides, and along with Intermittent Fasting, is helping me lose weight without the resulting loose skin, as well as many other benefits touted by research.
As said before, to each their own. Good luck!
:huh: I'm not "addicted" to carbs. I feel much better when I eat a diet of @ 50-60% carbs. My bloodwork is excellent and I'm a healthy weight. Most traditional cultures have moderate carb diets. Check out the Blue Zones - unusually high rates of healthy centenarians and they eat moderate to high carb plant based diets. I don't understand why people need to believe there is "one true way" to eat and anyone who doesn't is either ignorant, addicted, or doesn't care.4 -
The main benefit for me when i did keto was that it reduced my appetite/cravings which made losing weight a hell of a lot less stressful and easier!
I still counted every single calorie, but instead of struggling to eat less, i had to make an effort to eat enough. I only did it for 4mths, so have no idea if the appetite suppressing effects would have stayed with me.
Also, try and get your fats in with whole foods, adding copious amounts of oils and butters (low volume-high calorie) etc can easily create a surplus and you'll be gaining instead of losing.4 -
:huh: I'm not "addicted" to carbs. I feel much better when I eat a diet of @ 50-60% carbs. My bloodwork is excellent and I'm a healthy weight. Most traditional cultures have moderate carb diets. Check out the Blue Zones - unusually high rates of healthy centenarians and they eat moderate to high carb plant based diets. I don't understand why people need to believe there is "one true way" to eat and anyone who doesn't is either ignorant, addicted, or doesn't care. [/quote]
Maybe addicted is too strong a word.....with that said, I do believe there is more than one way to accomplish a goal. Sorry if I offended you or any others.3 -
cdlee05mfp wrote: »Here's a few keto resources I've liked that are also free:
Diet Doctor (online for recipes)
Ketogenic Diet Food & Recipes (on Facebook)
Thomas DeLauer (on Facebook or online)
Keto Talks w/Jimmy Moore (if you like podcasts)
Some resources on CICO and what fad diets are:
MFP forums...this is also free, lol.
It's so hard to do keto and MFP forums because every time i read through them i end up having to bring my popcorn and it throws me out of ketosis.
Oh, Jimmy Moore? Shining example of the effectiveness of keto:
Feel free to link to some actual science from some of those sites which proves that you can lose weight in a ketogenic state while in a caloric surplus.
Keto is not magic. It does not defy the laws of energy balance.
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cdlee05mfp wrote: »Here's a few keto resources I've liked that are also free:
Diet Doctor (online for recipes)
Ketogenic Diet Food & Recipes (on Facebook)
Thomas DeLauer (on Facebook or online)
Keto Talks w/Jimmy Moore (if you like podcasts)
Some resources on CICO and what fad diets are:
MFP forums...this is also free, lol.
It's so hard to do keto and MFP forums because every time i read through them i end up having to bring my popcorn and it throws me out of ketosis.
Oh, Jimmy Moore? Shining example of the effectiveness of keto:
Feel free to link to some actual science from some of those sites which proves that you can lose weight in a ketogenic state while in a caloric surplus.
Keto is not magic. It does not defy the laws of energy balance.
That guy looks like the bouncer at Olive Garden2 -
ThomasColin99 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »cdlee05mfp wrote: »I've done keto and it works extremely well and i can tell you that it absolutely does NOT rely on a calorie deficit to lose weight, in fact i was eating MORE calories then normal and the pounds were melting off. Here's my few pointers about it:
1) you HAVE to be strict in tracking what you eat. Meal prep and have keto friendly snacks on hand.
2) when in doubt, eat more fat...and then eat some more fat after that.
3) you will experience headaches, withdrawals and other symptoms in the first 2 weeks at least but they will pass....the reward to getting through that is absolutely amazing. More focus, more energy. Fat loss, yes but that's just a perk of feeling so much better overall.
4) don't make it difficult, especially in the beginning. Focus on simple, keto friendly meals.
5) don't just do it for fat loss. there are a ton of other benefits so focus on feeling those too. The fat will definitely fall off but like i said the other benefits are amazing.
6) it sucks not having carbs but remember, you can eat all the bacon you want.
7) Don't listen to other people on here and there NON-keto eating and exercise tips. If you wanted tips for that then YOU WOULD HAVE ASKED. It's your choice to do Keto, stick with it and the benefits WILL BE amazing.
8) back to #1, especially in the beginning, you HAVE to be strict about your macros...don't even count calories but focus on at least 75% fat, 20% protein and 5% or less carbs.
Some people do find that keto works well for them because it's an easier way for them to reach a deficit. But the deficit is why it creates weight loss (for those who lose weight). It's how anyone loses weight, regardless of what plan they happen to be on (or whether they're on no specific plan at all).
That's actually an over-simplification that borders on being outright wrong. While calories are always important, the Keto diet works because it limits your intake of sugar down the a level that literally changes your blood chemistry.
This makes no sense. I'll go through it below.It's a lot like when a person gets diabetes, the loose a ton of weight because the body doesn't release insulin to process the sugar, so an early stage diabetic can eat 5000 calories a day and not gain weight.
Not early stage, not with T2D, anyway, but yes, when you stop producing insulin you are unable to use carbs you ingest and thus if diabetes progresses to that stage without being caught, weight loss is common, and you tend to put on weight when first being treated.
This has nothing to do with keto.With diabetes the glucose (sugar) is excreted through urine and your brain gets its energy through a process called ketosis whereby the body re-learns how to burn fat for energy.
No, your body always knows how to burn fat for energy, and always does. The problem for diabetics is that they (due to insulin resistance and then inability to manufacture insulin) cannot properly use carbs for energy (or any other purpose).Ketones are the chemical that is released when the fat is burned.
The same process applies to the Keto diet except instead of diabetes causing your body to stop processing sugar, it's your diet. Limiting your Carbs forces your body into ketosis, which means it burns fat for energy instead of glucose (sugars and Carbs).
Everyone burns fat for energy at times, and if in a calorie deficit you will burn body fat for energy.
Someone eating a high fat, low carb diet will burn more overall fat -- because that's what they are eating -- but not more body fat (assuming the same deficit).Without sugar, you'll find that you feel better, have a clearer mind, have more energy for everything. You'll learn that you've been poisoning yourself with sugar your whole life. It's crazy. You'll be able to exercise longer, run faster, and eventually, lift heavier.
Many, many people do not have this experience.
The fastest runners are not ketogenic, btw.So, it's way more than a "calories in calories out analysis", although I'd agree, creating a deficit always helps with any diet.
You've said nothing to show it's not CICO.5 -
For the people who think calories don't matter, at least in my case that's not true at all. I ate whole food keto for half a year, making sure to track every bite. My weight was definitely affected by how much I ate, even if all I ate was chicken, eggs and vegetables. The diet taught me that a calorie is literally a calorie. I also want to note that the diet was very limiting and people always told me that cravings would disappear after a few months, but they just got more intense. I went on the diet thinking it'd be the only way I could control my eating with junk food, and after the diet my binge eating got tremendously worse. I lost a lot of weight from the diet, but then gained it all back and got a new eating disorder for a while lol. It was fun.3
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cdlee05mfp wrote: »Here's a few keto resources I've liked that are also free:
Diet Doctor (online for recipes)
Ketogenic Diet Food & Recipes (on Facebook)
Thomas DeLauer (on Facebook or online)
Keto Talks w/Jimmy Moore (if you like podcasts)
Some resources on CICO and what fad diets are:
MFP forums...this is also free, lol.
It's so hard to do keto and MFP forums because every time i read through them i end up having to bring my popcorn and it throws me out of ketosis.
Oh, Jimmy Moore? Shining example of the effectiveness of keto:
Feel free to link to some actual science from some of those sites which proves that you can lose weight in a ketogenic state while in a caloric surplus.
Keto is not magic. It does not defy the laws of energy balance.
I think when it comes to Jimmy Moore... He is one who talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk
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Christine_72 wrote: »cdlee05mfp wrote: »Here's a few keto resources I've liked that are also free:
Diet Doctor (online for recipes)
Ketogenic Diet Food & Recipes (on Facebook)
Thomas DeLauer (on Facebook or online)
Keto Talks w/Jimmy Moore (if you like podcasts)
Some resources on CICO and what fad diets are:
MFP forums...this is also free, lol.
It's so hard to do keto and MFP forums because every time i read through them i end up having to bring my popcorn and it throws me out of ketosis.
Oh, Jimmy Moore? Shining example of the effectiveness of keto:
Feel free to link to some actual science from some of those sites which proves that you can lose weight in a ketogenic state while in a caloric surplus.
Keto is not magic. It does not defy the laws of energy balance.
I think when it comes to Jimmy Moore... He is one who talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk
He sure makes a lot of money peddling his woo, though. I'll give him that much.0 -
Remember to "over consume" water during the first week. When I tried it last year, that was a major life saver from experiencing a severe Keto-Flu. Shoot for close to a gallon of water/day. There has been a lot of great feedback from the forum so far!1
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rewalters1987 wrote: »Remember to "over consume" water during the first week. When I tried it last year, that was a major life saver from experiencing a severe Keto-Flu. Shoot for close to a gallon of water/day. There has been a lot of great feedback from the forum so far!
The thing is that if you over consume water, you also need to "over consume" sodium, not doing this will guarantee keto flu.
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You should search the threads and groups for keto info. It's a huge fad right now and so many people ask about it, I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for and more.1
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wow, some BS keto advise in here. "eat more fat, and then eat more fat." or "eat as much bacon as you want." < that is 100% pure nonsense and horrible advise to give someone. The ketogenic diet is not some magically diet. You do NOT magically lose weight because you switch to keto. It's all about caloric deficit. I've seen many people get fat as *kitten* cause they thought they could eat as much fat as they wanted too.
Let's drop the buzzword and talk about what's actually happening. Eating very low carbohydrates causes your body to burn dietary fat as its main fuel source. You eat smaller, high fat meals with little to no carbs so that you do not increase your blood sugar. This makes it so that you eat fewer times per day, less calories at each meal, and never really feel hungry.
That's a lot different than taking a regular diet and just eating fewer carbs. That sort of diet will keep your body burning glucose for fuel and you'll feel miserable, hungry and crash soon gaining all the weight back.
No one promotes the idea that you can physically eat as much as you want and lose weight with Keto. What they are explaining to you is that you feel like you can eat whatever you want, and it's still hard to even hit your daily goal of calories.6
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