What should we really be eating...This is not for the faint hearted

Lemurcat12 pretty much said everything I could even think of saying about this production...plus a lot more. :-)

But I really wanted to say one thing about people being designed to be vegetarian, or vegan, etc...

That attitude is just plain ignorant of the very plants they suggest people eat. So much so that it kind of boggles the mind.

It's like people who say this forget that if people don't have supermarkets, plants aren't available year round. They are eaten when available, and seasons for many plants are a LOT shorter than many people are aware of.

And with naturally growing plants, as opposed to farmed ones, the plants are not cared for. So a late or early freeze can wipe plants out so a type of plant food isn't available that year, a storm can destroy blossoms so some fruit trees have nothing that year, a drought can make food scarcer so you have to compete more with OTHER animals.

And yes, there are going to be some plant based foods that can be preserved for later usage. But first, there is the difficulty with storage that has to be protected from predation by other animals - again, this is when we were developing as a species, so there's no canning or jars, you know? And second, if a tribe moved they had to carry their food with them, and in many areas of the world, winter lasts for months - that's a LOT of preserved plant food to theoretically try to carry around until plants start blooming and producing again.

Not to mention, the higher calorie plant based foods may not preserve easily (some berries present problems, for example) or the plant type only existed in small groups or clusters (aka - no large orchards or fields of wheat, say) until cultivation and farming developed. Which was long after people were roaming the world, obviously, so we can't claim that people were 'made' to have a diet that would only work after we developed farming.

Or better, the vegan diet, where it would only work after we developed farming and vitamin supplements.


Although I would not argue that our meat industry is pretty horrendous right now. Like, truly horrendous. There is a reason that companies that sell animals for meat really want to (and have in some cases) make it illegal for anyone to get cameras in to see what goes on in their farms(seriously - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ag-gag ).

CMS_3049 wrote: »

I take more issue with the inhumane treatment of animals used not only for food but for clothing as well than believing it will or will not benefit me from eating meat or not. I do eat meat products but feel very guilty if part of those products go uneaten. Those are my own internal feelings and I don’t judge others for what they eat and wear. I am not anti-slaughter but I do wish for the animals’ sake, their life and death wasn’t as disgusting as I’m assuming it to be.

And that is certainly a fair and reasonable position.

AnvilHead wrote: »

CMS_3049 wrote: »

I take more issue with the inhumane treatment of animals used not only for food but for clothing as well than believing it will or will not benefit me from eating meat or not. I do eat meat products but feel very guilty if part of those products go uneaten. Those are my own internal feelings and I don’t judge others for what they eat and wear. I am not anti-slaughter but I do wish for the animals’ sake, their life and death wasn’t as disgusting as I’m assuming it to be.

Ever seen a lion (or even a smaller animal such as a coyote) take down their prey? Human methods, while they’re admittedly not perfect and could stand to be improved, are several orders of magnitude more merciful and humane than any predator in the wild.

To be clear, I have nothing against veganism, nor am I against the ethical treatment of animals. What I do have trouble with is some of the fanatical propaganda surrounding it - such as most of what’s contained in fakeumentaries such as What the Health.

I agree with you. Speaking as someone whose cat used to go outside, I stopped that after the first baby bird incident. But the duckling that was eaten alive be by a hawk didn’t live in a barn with 20,000 other chicks for its entire life. It’s life was cut short by the natural food chain not because I Chicken/egg farmer needed to maximize profits. I feel it’s about the conditions they live in as well as the suffering from the slaughter. Such as the difference between the life of a farm-raised fish in a vat versus a fish caught in the open water.

As an “Accidental vegetarian” (yes there is such a thing), I found the transition relatively easy.
I didn’t have a choice.
I was a happy carnivore for almost 5 decades, than suffered a stroke. I could no longer swallow or digest meat.
So I had to learn how to walk, talk, cook and make vegetarian meals for myself as well as cook meat for my Butcher husband. ( True)
While I have no problem cooking meat, I am concerned how our planet can sustain this huge hunger for meat. Such a massive use of resources.
Whereas plant based diets require less resources to produce.
Just a thought.

If we were meant to be vegetarians, why do we have sharp canine teeth?

It boils down to this. Know where your food comes from. So many people have no idea where the food they put in their mouths came from. Every time someone cries alarm at these documentaries I wonder if they've ever been to a farm or if all they eat is manufactured crap.

Any farmer worth his salt would not abuse his paycheck.

If you want to make a difference - change the people in power. Quit voting for big business. Put your dollar where your mouth is. Pay the extra buck for good quality meat and produce - eat in season.

Knowledge is power.