Good fats vs. Bad fats
JulieAnneCurtiss
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I think I think it would be great if this app separated good fats from bad fats. The reason why I am saying this is I'm a vegetarian and therefore a lot of the foods I eat do you contain a high percentage of fats, such as sesame seeds, beans, pulses, nuts and olives, all of which are high in omega 3 fats. This tends to load a lot of my recipes as "high fat", making them appear more unhealthy than they actually are.
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I think it would be a bad idea, and the reason is that a high fat diet is great, as long as you get in all the nutrition you need and don't exceed your calorie target.2
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What are good fats and what are bad fats in your mind? With the exception of transfats, fats are fats. Some have more Omega 3s. Some oxidize more easily. Some are saturated some are not. A mix is good. MFP is set to calculate based on a projected balance. You can go in and change your settings and increase your fat goal if that is how oyu prefer to eat.4
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I'm simply suggesting they show them separately. Even on a high-fat diet you need to keep your saturated fats down.0
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JulieAnneCurtiss wrote: »I'm simply suggesting they show them separately. Even on a high-fat diet you need to keep your saturated fats down.
Don't they show them separately? I haven't logged in a long time but they used to. You might have to modify the defaults though.
Beans and pulses are low fat foods though.0 -
JulieAnneCurtiss wrote: »I'm simply suggesting they show them separately. Even on a high-fat diet you need to keep your saturated fats down.
Yeah well, you don't. Google "the lipid hypothesis". If it's important to you, sign up for premium and get the breakdown. Based on how you describe your diet, the breakdown would be pretty meaningless. You aren't guzzling bacon fat are you? You are eating sesame, pulses, nuts. A decent mix of fats. If you do not have a family history of hypercholsterolemia, it truly is irrelevant.2 -
You can track "Total Fat" and "Saturated Fat" separately, although I do not know for sure how many of the database entries have them separated correctly.0
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The app doesn't say it's bad to consume any particular percentage of fats. If you think the default is too low, increase it. People make the mistake of assuming that MFP is saying it's bad to exceed the default percentage of a macro, and it is not.
MFP has a sat fat limit if you wish to watch sat fat. I did for a while when I was eating more meat and dairy and don't now since I know I don't consume a lot.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »JulieAnneCurtiss wrote: »I'm simply suggesting they show them separately. Even on a high-fat diet you need to keep your saturated fats down.
Don't they show them separately? I haven't logged in a long time but they used to. You might have to modify the defaults though.
Beans and pulses are low fat foods though.
They do. The default things tracked are the macros (fat as a whole, carbs, protein), sugar, and sodium. I think it's not a terrible idea to ditch sugar for fiber (I actually ditched sodium for fiber), and maybe one of the other two for sat fat IF you are someone concerned with sat fat. Or you can look at the graph. It doesn't show in the default just because there's a limit.
I'm not sure it's easy to get an accurate count of omega 3 vs 6 at MFP, so I never bothered, although I look at that now that I log at Cron. But I know they have it here.
If you -- speaking to OP here -- want accurate counts, you have to be really careful when you choose your entries.0 -
When I log my food, it's distinguished between saturated and unsaturated fat. You can set custom limits for both. As far as omega-3 versus omega-6, this isn't distinguished on many food labels in the US so it would be virtually impossible to track accurately (since most database entries are created by your fellow users using nutrition label recognition).1
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I even don't have better idea about good and bad fats. But anyways I would like to remove it. And make me really handsome and clean.2
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JulieAnneCurtiss wrote: »I think I think it would be great if this app separated good fats from bad fats. The reason why I am saying this is I'm a vegetarian and therefore a lot of the foods I eat do you contain a high percentage of fats, such as sesame seeds, beans, pulses, nuts and olives, all of which are high in omega 3 fats. This tends to load a lot of my recipes as "high fat", making them appear more unhealthy than they actually are.
You mean the little red warning that says something along the lines of 'This food is high in fat. Your total fat for the day shouldn't exceed xx grams' that I seem to get on the app every now and then (but not always, because I just tested it with 2 Little Debbie Cosmic Brownies, and apparently those are fine, despite having 22 grams of fat, 7 of which are saturated)?
Yeah, I ignore that
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JulieAnneCurtiss wrote: »I think I think it would be great if this app separated good fats from bad fats. The reason why I am saying this is I'm a vegetarian and therefore a lot of the foods I eat do you contain a high percentage of fats, such as sesame seeds, beans, pulses, nuts and olives, all of which are high in omega 3 fats. This tends to load a lot of my recipes as "high fat", making them appear more unhealthy than they actually are.
You mean the little red warning that says something along the lines of 'This food is high in fat. Your total fat for the days shouldn't exceed xx grams' that I seem to get on the app every now and then (but not always, because I just tested it with 2 Little Debbie Cosmic Brownies, and apparently those are fine, despite having 22 grams of fat, 7 of which are saturated)?
Yeah, I ignore that
Oh, that's annoying. I don't use the app to log (much preferred the website even when I logged here), but can't you turn those silly messages off?0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »JulieAnneCurtiss wrote: »I think I think it would be great if this app separated good fats from bad fats. The reason why I am saying this is I'm a vegetarian and therefore a lot of the foods I eat do you contain a high percentage of fats, such as sesame seeds, beans, pulses, nuts and olives, all of which are high in omega 3 fats. This tends to load a lot of my recipes as "high fat", making them appear more unhealthy than they actually are.
You mean the little red warning that says something along the lines of 'This food is high in fat. Your total fat for the days shouldn't exceed xx grams' that I seem to get on the app every now and then (but not always, because I just tested it with 2 Little Debbie Cosmic Brownies, and apparently those are fine, despite having 22 grams of fat, 7 of which are saturated)?
Yeah, I ignore that
Oh, that's annoying. I don't use the app to log (much preferred the website even when I logged here), but can't you turn those silly messages off?
I just wish I knew how it worked! It's so random. I just added 1 cup of salted butter to my breakfast and nada :laugh:2 -
I've been advised by my doctor to track both, total fats and saturated fats separately. As I need to watch saturated fats limit, but ensure I still have a high enough fat intake for good health. (Initially, when advised to cut fats, before logging/using MFP. I went to low and ended up with different health concerns) Logging and tracking these to separately on MFP, allows me to keep track of both easily. (Adjusting as needed, after blood test results.)2
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lemurcat12 wrote: »JulieAnneCurtiss wrote: »I think I think it would be great if this app separated good fats from bad fats. The reason why I am saying this is I'm a vegetarian and therefore a lot of the foods I eat do you contain a high percentage of fats, such as sesame seeds, beans, pulses, nuts and olives, all of which are high in omega 3 fats. This tends to load a lot of my recipes as "high fat", making them appear more unhealthy than they actually are.
You mean the little red warning that says something along the lines of 'This food is high in fat. Your total fat for the days shouldn't exceed xx grams' that I seem to get on the app every now and then (but not always, because I just tested it with 2 Little Debbie Cosmic Brownies, and apparently those are fine, despite having 22 grams of fat, 7 of which are saturated)?
Yeah, I ignore that
Oh, that's annoying. I don't use the app to log (much preferred the website even when I logged here), but can't you turn those silly messages off?
I just wish I knew how it worked! It's so random. I just added 1 cup of salted butter to my breakfast and nada :laugh:
Just go to nutrition>nutrients and it will tell you how much saturated fat you're getting.1 -
JulieAnneCurtiss wrote: »I'm simply suggesting they show them separately. Even on a high-fat diet you need to keep your saturated fats down.
You can track them separately...1 -
strongwouldbenice wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »JulieAnneCurtiss wrote: »I think I think it would be great if this app separated good fats from bad fats. The reason why I am saying this is I'm a vegetarian and therefore a lot of the foods I eat do you contain a high percentage of fats, such as sesame seeds, beans, pulses, nuts and olives, all of which are high in omega 3 fats. This tends to load a lot of my recipes as "high fat", making them appear more unhealthy than they actually are.
You mean the little red warning that says something along the lines of 'This food is high in fat. Your total fat for the days shouldn't exceed xx grams' that I seem to get on the app every now and then (but not always, because I just tested it with 2 Little Debbie Cosmic Brownies, and apparently those are fine, despite having 22 grams of fat, 7 of which are saturated)?
Yeah, I ignore that
Oh, that's annoying. I don't use the app to log (much preferred the website even when I logged here), but can't you turn those silly messages off?
I just wish I knew how it worked! It's so random. I just added 1 cup of salted butter to my breakfast and nada :laugh:
Just go to nutrition>nutrients and it will tell you how much saturated fat you're getting.
Oh, I know how to check the nutrition breakdown
I was just trying to re-create the red warning that sometimes shows up so I could screen capture the exact wording, but apparently one cup of butter isn't worth a warning. Which is why I'd love to know the trigger for that notice. 2 -
strongwouldbenice wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »JulieAnneCurtiss wrote: »I think I think it would be great if this app separated good fats from bad fats. The reason why I am saying this is I'm a vegetarian and therefore a lot of the foods I eat do you contain a high percentage of fats, such as sesame seeds, beans, pulses, nuts and olives, all of which are high in omega 3 fats. This tends to load a lot of my recipes as "high fat", making them appear more unhealthy than they actually are.
You mean the little red warning that says something along the lines of 'This food is high in fat. Your total fat for the days shouldn't exceed xx grams' that I seem to get on the app every now and then (but not always, because I just tested it with 2 Little Debbie Cosmic Brownies, and apparently those are fine, despite having 22 grams of fat, 7 of which are saturated)?
Yeah, I ignore that
Oh, that's annoying. I don't use the app to log (much preferred the website even when I logged here), but can't you turn those silly messages off?
I just wish I knew how it worked! It's so random. I just added 1 cup of salted butter to my breakfast and nada :laugh:
Just go to nutrition>nutrients and it will tell you how much saturated fat you're getting.
Oh, I know how to check the nutrition breakdown I was just trying to re-create the red warning that sometimes shows up so I could screen capture the exact wording, but apparently one cup of butter isn't worth a warning. Which is why I'd love to know the trigger for that notice.
It only does that to let you know when you're getting close to (or some food uses a large percentage) of some preset macro because the app is assuming you want to stay below that limit. You can set those to whatever you want and ignore the messages if you don't care about hitting macros dead on. If you know you eat a high fat diet, you might as well change the macro breakdown in your goals tab if the messages bother you.0 -
extra_medium wrote: »strongwouldbenice wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »JulieAnneCurtiss wrote: »I think I think it would be great if this app separated good fats from bad fats. The reason why I am saying this is I'm a vegetarian and therefore a lot of the foods I eat do you contain a high percentage of fats, such as sesame seeds, beans, pulses, nuts and olives, all of which are high in omega 3 fats. This tends to load a lot of my recipes as "high fat", making them appear more unhealthy than they actually are.
You mean the little red warning that says something along the lines of 'This food is high in fat. Your total fat for the days shouldn't exceed xx grams' that I seem to get on the app every now and then (but not always, because I just tested it with 2 Little Debbie Cosmic Brownies, and apparently those are fine, despite having 22 grams of fat, 7 of which are saturated)?
Yeah, I ignore that
Oh, that's annoying. I don't use the app to log (much preferred the website even when I logged here), but can't you turn those silly messages off?
I just wish I knew how it worked! It's so random. I just added 1 cup of salted butter to my breakfast and nada :laugh:
Just go to nutrition>nutrients and it will tell you how much saturated fat you're getting.
Oh, I know how to check the nutrition breakdown I was just trying to re-create the red warning that sometimes shows up so I could screen capture the exact wording, but apparently one cup of butter isn't worth a warning. Which is why I'd love to know the trigger for that notice.
It only does that to let you know when you're getting close to (or some food uses a large percentage) of some preset macro because the app is assuming you want to stay below that limit. You can set those to whatever you want and ignore the messages if you don't care about hitting macros dead on. If you know you eat a high fat diet, you might as well change the macro breakdown in your goals tab if the messages bother you.
I'm not a new user and tweaked my macro percentages LONG ago because the default setting is laughably low in fat and protein IMO. It's a useless feature as far as I'm concerned, thus I ignore it when I do see it. I can see how it would be troubling for a new user to see that big red warning. I suppose of course it might be helpful to some folks. I'm just not one of them.2 -
OP, Just reset your macros to a higher percentage of fat so MFP stops bugging you about eating too much fat, and if you want to set a custom bar for saturated fat so you know to watch out for it, you can do that. On mine, I removed the sodium and set it to a higher goal, and replaced sugar with fiber so I can more easily calculate net carbs. The program is flexible enough for what you want to do.1
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JulieAnneCurtiss wrote: »I think I think it would be great if this app separated good fats from bad fats. The reason why I am saying this is I'm a vegetarian and therefore a lot of the foods I eat do you contain a high percentage of fats, such as sesame seeds, beans, pulses, nuts and olives, all of which are high in omega 3 fats. This tends to load a lot of my recipes as "high fat", making them appear more unhealthy than they actually are.
Actually, you can see the fat break down when you hit the nutrition button at the bottom of your diary page.
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