Anyone with insanely high metabolism (4500 Cal) what do you eat when bulking?
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Currently bulking @4000-4250 calories and stopped gaining so i am going to up it to 4500. The problem is I always feel full and get tired and sluggish if I eat a lot in one sitting. I all ready have a 710 calorie mass gainers before bed but its still a struggle to hit 4250 now.
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I am going to point you to this thread. It should help answer your statement as it relates to 'high metabolism' and also gives you a list of calorie dense food you can add.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10326769/are-you-a-hard-gainer-please-read/p10 -
I would gladly take all your extra calories. I, unfortunately, have no problem eating that many. Unfortunately, I only get 2400 at the moment for my bulk
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Davidsdottir wrote: »I would gladly take all your extra calories. I, unfortunately, have no problem eating that many. Unfortunately, I only get 2400 at the moment for my bulk
For me I am too short. I need to grow taller too.3 -
Really it's no problem to get that much in it's keeping it semi quality and doing every day.Davidsdottir wrote: »I would gladly take all your extra calories. I, unfortunately, have no problem eating that many. Unfortunately, I only get 2400 at the moment for my bulk0 -
I was bulking at around 4500 - 5K ... or so I thought. I started weighing portions and tightened my logging and found that the number was actually closer to 4K - mostly because I was eyeballing how much milk I was adding to my shakes and since I was drinking so much damned milk it threw everything off a bit more than I would have thought. I was being lazy about measuring oils for cooking and other little habits that added up.
Anyhow, I ate fairly large but normal meals for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I filled the gaps between those meals with a protein shake for breakfast, one after the workout and one before bed. I would add a mass shake or two on days where I was having problems meeting my goals. I prioritized making sure I hit my protein macro which was about 220-230g of protein and made sure that I had at least 100 - 120g of fat - everything else was carbs. When I finally thought I stalled out at a tightly logged 4.2K I maintained at that level for a month before I finally was willing to call it a true stall. I also decided that I was getting freaking fat at this point and started my cut. Which after 11 months of constantly eating when I didn't want to eat has actually been quite refreshing.
I'd like to add that I didn't require those numbers until I was north of 230# and my stall occurred right around 240.0 -
I hope you like peanut butter! A proper peanut butter sandwich- 1 bread sandwich roll (270 cals) toasted with butter (100 cals), 4 tbsp peanut butter (400 cals) and 2 tbsp jelly (100 cals). That's almost 900 calories in 1 item that is a combo of healthy fat, carbs and protein. Serve that with a glass of whole milk (150 cals) with a scoop of protein powder (120 cals) and that's a solid 1000 cals that isn't a ton of volume.
You have to learn to add things to your plan that are high in calories and not a lot of volume. You'll also need to give your body some time adjust. What's more important to you? Your aesthetic/body goals or the slight discomfort you feel in the moment?
And some other ideas that I relied on when I was gaining.
higher calorie breads, buns and bagels
granola instead of cereal
full fat yogurt
chips
oversized cookies (like 500 cals/ cookie)
fattier meats than chicken and tuna (sausage, meatball, pepperoni)1 -
Maintain at 4k. But I try to target 5k/day. I'm on the seefood diet. See food, eat it. Lot's of liquid cals. Choc milk (i buy gallons), shakes, ice cream, all the good stuff haha. I eat lot's of meats too. With occasional late night fast food thrown in to the mix. Sometimes set a 3am alarm to eat some cereal.
My appetite is usually not very good so I have to eat whatever sounds good atm. Not the healthiest, but I'm extremely active. distance running, powerlifting, extreme sports. My scans have always been exceptional. Very low HR.0 -
Pizza. It's exclusively what I ate to gain back in my 20's.Currently bulking @4000-4250 calories and stopped gaining so i am going to up it to 4500. The problem is I always feel full and get tired and sluggish if I eat a lot in one sitting. I all ready have a 710 calorie mass gainers before bed but its still a struggle to hit 4250 now.
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Are you doing any cardio activity to achieve such a high metabolism? I would stop unless you're in some sporting activity that you enjoy.0
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Pizza. It's exclusively what I ate to gain back in my 20's.Currently bulking @4000-4250 calories and stopped gaining so i am going to up it to 4500. The problem is I always feel full and get tired and sluggish if I eat a lot in one sitting. I all ready have a 710 calorie mass gainers before bed but its still a struggle to hit 4250 now.
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
This is a good one. It's easy to eat a whole pizza!1 -
I started 10 days ago
4000 kcal. My weight was 235lb a year ago but I stopped to workout and I lost 25lb.
Now I am 216lb.
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Stopped doing cardio a long time ago. I'm on my feet all day at work not really walking that far but allways moving no idea how much that effects calorie burn.0
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Depends on your weight and how much ground you cover in an hour. A 4 mile pace at 200lbs will be 200x.3x4 or about 240 net calories just for the walking. If you add in BMR then you'll get to into that range, but not just using net for most people.0 -
I was running a bulk for awhile that ran upto 4000 calories. Yeah, eating that much can be a pain but pizza, as suggested above really helps. Some days I would do pizza with ice cream to make the calories. A good thing to do is get a recipie for a high calorie smoothie or shake, don't buy the powders, they suck.0
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Stopped doing cardio a long time ago. I'm on my feet all day at work not really walking that far but allways moving no idea how much that effects calorie burn.
You would probably be active from work activities and if you put that in a TDEE calculator that should give you a resonable idea.0 -
Maintain at 4k. But I try to target 5k/day. I'm on the seefood diet. See food, eat it. Lot's of liquid cals. Choc milk (i buy gallons), shakes, ice cream, all the good stuff haha. I eat lot's of meats too. With occasional late night fast food thrown in to the mix. Sometimes set a 3am alarm to eat some cereal.
My appetite is usually not very good so I have to eat whatever sounds good atm. Not the healthiest, but I'm extremely active. distance running, powerlifting, extreme sports. My scans have always been exceptional. Very low HR.
4-5K for maintenance? That's insane.0
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