Crossfit and keto
bielik316
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I’m a crossfit junky and am new to keto. Trying to support my wife on her keto journey and am looking for anybody else who is trying to cut and build muscle. Add me and let’s chat ✌
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Keto can help with controlling calories for some, but it comes at a cost. That cost is athletic performance. A balanced diet, I believe, is better if doing any training. I did Keto for months but could not recover or perform as well while keeping cabs and protein that low.9
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Are you trying to cut.... Or build muscle?2
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This doesn't sound like a good combo...5
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Cut and build muscles & keto is not going to give you optimal results unfortunately. Unless you're new to lifting and/or obese, on recomp or on gear or just have freak genetics, building muscles at a deficit will be almost impossible. Keto isn't also optimal for gym performance either, many studies show it, but I suppose a happy wife, makes a happy life. Good luck in your journey.2
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1) Crossfit isn't an optimal workout modality for hypertrophy (muscle gain).
2) Keto isn't an optimal diet for hypertrophy (nor for workout performance).
3) The circumstances under which you can simultaneously cut and build muscle are very limited, and the combination of crossfit and keto will likely make them even more so.8 -
Low carb and Crossfit is a terrible idea6
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1) Crossfit isn't an optimal workout modality for hypertrophy (muscle gain).
2) Keto isn't an optimal diet for hypertrophy (nor for workout performance).
3) The circumstances under which you can simultaneously cut and build muscle are very limited, and the combination of crossfit and keto will likely make them even more so.
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ThisThis doesn't sound like a good combo..3 -
I do Crossfit and running when I cut, but the lack of progressive overload isn't ideal for gaining muscle. Not to mention keto.7
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I’m not really trying to build muscle I’m wanting to just cut and stay fit and put on a little weight if possible. Thanks for all the info so far.4
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I’m not really trying to build muscle I’m wanting to just cut and stay fit and put on a little weight if possible. Thanks for all the info so far.
Maybe it was a typo, are you trying to put on weight (bulk) or cut weight (cut)? Also, I would recommend at least loading your carbs around your workouts.1 -
am looking for anybody else who is trying to cut and build muscle.I’m not really trying to build muscle I’m wanting to just cut and stay fit and put on a little weight if possible. Thanks for all the info so far.
A little contradictory judging from your initial comments, but at least you know now that doing both is extremely difficult (not impossible, but only very few people can achieve it naturally).
I also agree with psuLemon when it comes to carbs, if your body responds well to lifting and doing keto, all power to you, but it's not usually a common thing.1 -
crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?0 -
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?
Paleo is the big thing in the community. And the original paleo did not restrict carbs. Just lots of good and healthy foods.3 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?
Paleo is the big thing in the community. And the original paleo did not restrict carbs. Just lots of good and healthy foods.
True, but it's become equated with low carb. Seems most who follow it believe it's supposed to be low carb even though that was never in the original ideas by Loren and from my understanding he has denied it ever was intended to be.
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crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?
Paleo is the big thing in the community. And the original paleo did not restrict carbs. Just lots of good and healthy foods.
Paleo, zone... RPstrength are kinda popular nutritionist within the community as well and they make you eat alot of carbs.
So, higher carb paleo and not really keto, thanks.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?
Paleo is the big thing in the community. And the original paleo did not restrict carbs. Just lots of good and healthy foods.
Paleo, zone... RPstrength are kinda popular nutritionist within the community as well and they make you eat alot of carbs.
So, higher carb paleo and not really keto, thanks.
Yup, Zone is actually what's usually Rxed for CF.1 -
Davidsdottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?
Paleo is the big thing in the community. And the original paleo did not restrict carbs. Just lots of good and healthy foods.
Paleo, zone... RPstrength are kinda popular nutritionist within the community as well and they make you eat alot of carbs.
So, higher carb paleo and not really keto, thanks.
Yup, Zone is actually what's usually Rxed for CF.
Interesting because I thought Zone had basically faded away. I haven't heard about it in years. Thanks.0 -
crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?
Paleo is the big thing in the community. And the original paleo did not restrict carbs. Just lots of good and healthy foods.
Paleo, zone... RPstrength are kinda popular nutritionist within the community as well and they make you eat alot of carbs.
So, higher carb paleo and not really keto, thanks.
Mhm. Many do 40% carbs 30% fat 30% protein. It's not high in carbs but enough for most normal people who do crossfit.
That's actually pretty similar to my natural split. I don't really aim for a split but I'm usually running around that for a week average last time I logged rigorously.
Thanks.
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crossfit_dottir wrote: »Davidsdottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?
Paleo is the big thing in the community. And the original paleo did not restrict carbs. Just lots of good and healthy foods.
Paleo, zone... RPstrength are kinda popular nutritionist within the community as well and they make you eat alot of carbs.
So, higher carb paleo and not really keto, thanks.
Yup, Zone is actually what's usually Rxed for CF.
Have you tried it? I hated the blocks system
Years ago, with my ex, we tried it. Apparently, although not well explained, the Zone is supposed to refer to the optimal insulin release zone. Yeah, I found it too restrictive but some of the meals were good. The problem with all diets like that is they are designed like a construction kit and can be very restrictive for many. I prefer to just free form looking mostly to fill up mins on protein and fats. After that I just ensure I eat a varied diet to get my micros etc.
How long did you try it for? Are you doing something like IIFYM or similar right now or a more free form diet?0 -
crossfit_dottir wrote: »Davidsdottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?
Paleo is the big thing in the community. And the original paleo did not restrict carbs. Just lots of good and healthy foods.
Paleo, zone... RPstrength are kinda popular nutritionist within the community as well and they make you eat alot of carbs.
So, higher carb paleo and not really keto, thanks.
Yup, Zone is actually what's usually Rxed for CF.
Have you tried it? I hated the blocks system
Nope, I did do the Paleo thing for awhile, though. Cleared up my skin.1 -
Davidsdottir wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Davidsdottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?
Paleo is the big thing in the community. And the original paleo did not restrict carbs. Just lots of good and healthy foods.
Paleo, zone... RPstrength are kinda popular nutritionist within the community as well and they make you eat alot of carbs.
So, higher carb paleo and not really keto, thanks.
Yup, Zone is actually what's usually Rxed for CF.
Have you tried it? I hated the blocks system
Nope, I did do the Paleo thing for awhile, though. Cleared up my skin.
Note to self, cavemen had great skin... I just do some posts to amuse myself.
Any idea what the reason was? I occasionally have problem skin but never did much research on possible diet links.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Davidsdottir wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Davidsdottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?
Paleo is the big thing in the community. And the original paleo did not restrict carbs. Just lots of good and healthy foods.
Paleo, zone... RPstrength are kinda popular nutritionist within the community as well and they make you eat alot of carbs.
So, higher carb paleo and not really keto, thanks.
Yup, Zone is actually what's usually Rxed for CF.
Have you tried it? I hated the blocks system
Nope, I did do the Paleo thing for awhile, though. Cleared up my skin.
Note to self, cavemen had great skin... I just do some posts to amuse myself.
Any idea what the reason was? I occasionally have problem skin but never did much research on possible diet links.
Nope. I always thought my issue was hormonal. I'd been on pretty much every oral and topical Rx and OTC meds and nothing helped except cutting out grains.
That said, I now eat a bag of popcorn pretty much every night, drink lots of whole milk, v and have beans in my chili today LOL1 -
Davidsdottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Davidsdottir wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Davidsdottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?
Paleo is the big thing in the community. And the original paleo did not restrict carbs. Just lots of good and healthy foods.
Paleo, zone... RPstrength are kinda popular nutritionist within the community as well and they make you eat alot of carbs.
So, higher carb paleo and not really keto, thanks.
Yup, Zone is actually what's usually Rxed for CF.
Have you tried it? I hated the blocks system
Nope, I did do the Paleo thing for awhile, though. Cleared up my skin.
Note to self, cavemen had great skin... I just do some posts to amuse myself.
Any idea what the reason was? I occasionally have problem skin but never did much research on possible diet links.
Nope. I always thought my issue was hormonal. I'd been on pretty much every oral and topical Rx and OTC meds and nothing helped except cutting out grains.
That said, I now eat a bag of popcorn pretty much every night, drink lots of whole milk, v and have beans in my chili today LOL
Can't live without popcorn!
I haven't been too bad for years so I guess I'll just keep on doing what I'm doing. I love my grains lol. 0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Davidsdottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Davidsdottir wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Davidsdottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?
Paleo is the big thing in the community. And the original paleo did not restrict carbs. Just lots of good and healthy foods.
Paleo, zone... RPstrength are kinda popular nutritionist within the community as well and they make you eat alot of carbs.
So, higher carb paleo and not really keto, thanks.
Yup, Zone is actually what's usually Rxed for CF.
Have you tried it? I hated the blocks system
Nope, I did do the Paleo thing for awhile, though. Cleared up my skin.
Note to self, cavemen had great skin... I just do some posts to amuse myself.
Any idea what the reason was? I occasionally have problem skin but never did much research on possible diet links.
Nope. I always thought my issue was hormonal. I'd been on pretty much every oral and topical Rx and OTC meds and nothing helped except cutting out grains.
That said, I now eat a bag of popcorn pretty much every night, drink lots of whole milk, v and have beans in my chili today LOL
Can't live without popcorn! I haven't been too bad for years so I guess I'll just keep on doing what I'm doing. I love my grains lol.
Proactiv Plus. That stuff is the only substitute skin care I've found for eating Paleo to keep my skin good!1 -
Davidsdottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Davidsdottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Davidsdottir wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Davidsdottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?
Paleo is the big thing in the community. And the original paleo did not restrict carbs. Just lots of good and healthy foods.
Paleo, zone... RPstrength are kinda popular nutritionist within the community as well and they make you eat alot of carbs.
So, higher carb paleo and not really keto, thanks.
Yup, Zone is actually what's usually Rxed for CF.
Have you tried it? I hated the blocks system
Nope, I did do the Paleo thing for awhile, though. Cleared up my skin.
Note to self, cavemen had great skin... I just do some posts to amuse myself.
Any idea what the reason was? I occasionally have problem skin but never did much research on possible diet links.
Nope. I always thought my issue was hormonal. I'd been on pretty much every oral and topical Rx and OTC meds and nothing helped except cutting out grains.
That said, I now eat a bag of popcorn pretty much every night, drink lots of whole milk, v and have beans in my chili today LOL
Can't live without popcorn! I haven't been too bad for years so I guess I'll just keep on doing what I'm doing. I love my grains lol.
Proactiv Plus. That stuff is the only substitute skin care I've found for eating Paleo to keep my skin good!
Thanks, I'll remember that if I have another flare up, which often happens when I'm in hard training for races like I'm gearing up for now. Plus, I'll remember to choose my parents better next time. 1 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?
Paleo is the big thing in the community. And the original paleo did not restrict carbs. Just lots of good and healthy foods.
Paleo, zone... RPstrength are kinda popular nutritionist within the community as well and they make you eat alot of carbs.
So, higher carb paleo and not really keto, thanks.
Mhm. Many do 40% carbs 30% fat 30% protein. It's not high in carbs but enough for most normal people who do crossfit.
That's actually pretty similar to my natural split. I don't really aim for a split but I'm usually running around that for a week average last time I logged rigorously.
Thanks.
40c/30f/30p is how I have mine set up too (it works for the protein and fat goals I want in grams) and I find that's pretty much where I naturally fall doing IIFYM anyway, so it's effortless in terms of "engineering" my diet.
Every Crossfitter I've known has always pushed Paleo like a religion - have they evolved away from that now?1 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »crossfit_dottir wrote: »Wanna be able to do the explosive movements? Then carbs are your friend.
Try keto, if you can recover, get better and go faster on low carb diet then enjoy it but most of us need carbs to be able to do the wods.
I definitely agree, although I thought low carb and Keto were a big thing in the CrossFit community, since you are in a better position to know, is that true or am I mistaken?
Paleo is the big thing in the community. And the original paleo did not restrict carbs. Just lots of good and healthy foods.
Paleo, zone... RPstrength are kinda popular nutritionist within the community as well and they make you eat alot of carbs.
So, higher carb paleo and not really keto, thanks.
Mhm. Many do 40% carbs 30% fat 30% protein. It's not high in carbs but enough for most normal people who do crossfit.
That's actually pretty similar to my natural split. I don't really aim for a split but I'm usually running around that for a week average last time I logged rigorously.
Thanks.
40c/30f/30p is how I have mine set up too (it works for the protein and fat goals I want in grams) and I find that's pretty much where I naturally fall doing IIFYM anyway, so it's effortless in terms of "engineering" my diet.
Every Crossfitter I've known has always pushed Paleo like a religion - have they evolved away from that now?
Paleo caught fire amongst many CrossFitters, and was heavily pushed. Some may still do so. However the zone diet has been CrossFit's official stance for quite some time and that's what's taught in the L1.
Commenting to the OP question, keto and CrossFit do not mix well at all. The intensity is too high, and your performance won't be very good.4
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