Which is the best diet for overall health and weight loss?
strive356
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The goverment healthy plate diet is good if you use sourdough bread or sprouted bread, and sprouted grains. The paleo diet is so high in good fats that it may not let you lose body fat. Is fat fat whether good or bad? I don't know. In terms of losing weight I mean. Low fat dairy and low fat diets may cause inflammation of the organs, causing acne and diseases. Because low fat products are all too processed. This is just my experience, what's yours?
Thinking aloud, I need to start the best diet that will eliminate all possible disease. i just went through the healing leaky gut elimination diet with dr. axe and i didn't finish it properly. Then i went to a nutritionist who has a healthy plate diet, low fat dairy, and lots of carbs. I can't figure out which one will help me mainly maintain healthy gut and still lose weight. I think it's the paleo diet.
Thinking aloud, I need to start the best diet that will eliminate all possible disease. i just went through the healing leaky gut elimination diet with dr. axe and i didn't finish it properly. Then i went to a nutritionist who has a healthy plate diet, low fat dairy, and lots of carbs. I can't figure out which one will help me mainly maintain healthy gut and still lose weight. I think it's the paleo diet.
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on second thought, just trying your best and avoiding diets seems plausible.14
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Stress contributes to ill health. Stressing about the healthiness of every food choice you make is probably going to cause more health issues than enjoying some foods on occasion that may not be "healthy".
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"Eat food, mostly plants, not too much"
Food - something your great grandparents would recognize, not a processed "food like substance". If the label has more than five ingredients, half of which you can't pronounce, ask yourself if it is really food.
Shop from the outer edge of the store, not the middle. Notice how all the fresh stuff is placed on the outer edges - your greens, meats and so on - the stuff with shore shelf life that has to be replaced often - that's food.
If it won't spoil, then it's probably not food. Honey and Worcestershire sauce are perhaps exceptions - but twinkies that never go bad - not food.
Don't eat until you're full - stop at four-fifths, do not clear your plate because it's there. (smaller plates make for smaller portions and make us feel fuller, so start there).
Eat at a table, with other people, whilst talking.
The rest comes down to your genetics - the Masai subsist on cattle blood, meat and milk, inuits on whale blubber and lichen, the French eat a lot of fatty foods, wine and fois gras - the one diet that seems to be universally unhealthy is the "typical western" fast food, convenience packed, high calorie, low nutrition, eat in the car diet.60 -
the what now!?
where are you getting your information from OP?! more than 20 minutes of cardio is bad for you and now this!?12 -
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I think the best diet is healthy eating. Counting calories, staying low. Making the right food choices, keeping it somewhat low , getting enough protein. Fad diets can have some good ideas mixed in, but I wouldn't follow one exact. Just take the good ideas and incorporate them into my own healthy eating plan.2
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These fad diets can be confusing... They all contradict one another, but claim such high success rates..6
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I've lost 80lbs on my own, and honestly moderation is key. I've watched friends go on plant-based, yada yada diets and they actually gained about 30lbs because nuts and seeds - while very good for you - are also very calorie dense.
I tend to follow the nature rule: if the world went through some catastrophic event and I had to go out and find my own food, could I find this item? Could I grow this item, or make it from food I could grow myself? If the answer is yes, it goes into my diet. If the answer is no then it doesn't. I follow this rule about 85% of the time, the rest I do allow myself some items outside of the nature rule. I eat a lot of produce, actually when I grocery shop there are very few items of mine that come from the inner aisles of the store, or as I call them: the box aisles. There are some things like coffee and PB, but most of my food is from the produce and fresh meat sections.
Another good mindset is this one: if you purchased this food, and let it sit out for a week would it rot or would it look exactly the same? If it is going to go bad, you want to eat it. If it will look exactly the same, stay away from it.
Or ask yourself this: has there been any advertising for the food you're looking to buy? Foods that are the best for you - nutritionally speaking - often have the least amount of advertising.
Just some food for thought.36 -
Leaky gut is not a thing....19
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intestinal permeability (leaky gut) is mentioned 11,000 times in pub med articles.
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mywell.blog
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I just took a lab test for it
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I see diets as temporary, quick fix *BS* ...
The best diet is NO diet at all.
Eat what you want within your calorie goal.
I don't understand why people make this more complicated than it has to be...26 -
Also don't think you need to worry about leaky gut.
Back to your question, the best "diet" is one you can maintain after you've lost the weight. So your better option to chasing your tail is to take a couple of weeks and log food that you like to eat without worrying about the calories.
Then get your calorie goal (for a reasonable deficit, say 1 lb per week) and see how you can manage what you currently are eating within that goal. Some foods you'll have to limit or drop. You may need to add some lower calorie, higher volume foods to help be not hungry, you may have to bump your protein a bit, but see how what you are currently eating would fit into your goals.
Ignore the magazines, Dr. Oz, Oprah, and any nutritionist unless they have an actual degree of some kind.11 -
BitofaState wrote: »"Eat food, mostly plants, not too much"
Food - something your great grandparents would recognize, not a processed "food like substance". If the label has more than five ingredients, half of which you can't pronounce, ask yourself if it is really food.
Shop from the outer edge of the store, not the middle. Notice how all the fresh stuff is placed on the outer edges - your greens, meats and so on - the stuff with shore shelf life that has to be replaced often - that's food.
If it won't spoil, then it's probably not food. Honey and Worcestershire sauce are perhaps exceptions - but twinkies that never go bad - not food.
Don't eat until you're full - stop at four-fifths, do not clear your plate because it's there. (smaller plates make for smaller portions and make us feel fuller, so start there).
Eat at a table, with other people, whilst talking.
The rest comes down to your genetics - the Masai subsist on cattle blood, meat and milk, inuits on whale blubber and lichen, the French eat a lot of fatty foods, wine and fois gras - the one diet that seems to be universally unhealthy is the "typical western" fast food, convenience packed, high calorie, low nutrition, eat in the car diet.
My great-grandparents would have recognized chicken shmaltz, p'tchaa (calves foot jelly), gribben (chicken skin fried in shmaltz) kishka (basically, Jewish 'haggis': beef intestines stuffed with generally lower-quality meats and some kind of grain), and deli meats. A lot smoked/salted/fermented foods, so at a guess? Wayyyyyyyyyy over the sodium RDA. I'm not sure if they ever saw oranges or bananas, even in pictures. They came from small villages in Eastern Europe and did millions of things with root vegetables, potatoes, and cabbage. Spinach? Kale? Romaine Lettuce? Not really a thing.
They missed out on the variety of healthy dishes from other cultures that many of us take for granted today. Probably wouldn't know what to make of my vegetarian diet or the tofu, less-than-common whole grains (e.g. millet, amaranth, rice other than long-grain white/brown), seitan, etc. Not sure they'd have recognized toasted sesame oil or balsamic vinegar either.
I cook a lot of my meals, but IMO, there is nothing wrong with using a few canned shortcuts, like various canned tomato products, which—you guessed it—come from the middle of the store. Along with the cornmeal, barley, oils, vinegars, and frozen vegetables. I don't make my own Thai red curry paste. I make my own seitan—out of vital wheat gluten that has already been 'processed' by having someone else mill and repeatedly wash and drain the flour. If I make marinara using jarred tomato sauce as a base, is it real food or fake?
As you can probably guess? I have a few issues with the above definition of food.24 -
I honestly don't think there is a one-size-fits all when it comes to how you eat. I've lost over 170 pounds so far, not to my goal yet, and while I certainly don't know anything special, I have tried a several of the various "diets" along the way thinking this one or that one would get me the healthiest body, the fastest results or because I read some "authority" on the subject that made it sound like the way to go.
I ended up confused, frustrated, sometimes gaining more than I was losing, sometimes sick etc etc.. You have to find something that works for you personally and that's not going to be some by the book diet plan. You aren't the same as anyone else. You will never have the same results as anyone else.
Start by what most of the other posters have already said- choose real food- whole foods, not packaged or junk, primarily. Eat in moderation. Start paying attention to how YOU PERSONALLY feel when you eat. For me, I feel awful if I eat dairy, so I don't. I don't do well with a lot of sugars, even from fruit, so I limit how much fruit I eat and go for lower sugar fruits when I do. I can't eat an insane amount of protein and find I do best with mostly veggies. Does that mean my way is best, nope. It means that right now, it's what's best for my body.
With that you also have to be willing to change it up and check in with yourself from time to time. It really comes down to making the healthiest choices the majority of the time within the parameters of your calorie needs, goals and what works for you. It's trial and error sometimes, but stick with it, you'll find your "best" and it will work.
Good luck!
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The lab test tested lactulose levels in urine. it was called an intestinal permeability test. Before this, a nutrition biochemist named Van Beveren pricked my blood from my finger and looked at it under a microscope and saw food particles in my bloodstream. He said I had leaky gut. If I didn't have digestive holes, then how did the food get there?
L-glutamine and bone broth and collagen are known to repair the intestinal wall gut lining. In fact, after the program, i was free of leaky gut. Meaning the test came out normal.
The test was done by Genova Diagnostics.
I'm not saying everyone should believe in this. I'm just saying that functional medicine doctors usually describe leaky gut as a condition. The Institute of Functional Medicine would agree. It's perfectly fine for me if you disagree though.
Are you surprised that food acts as medicine in so many ways? It really does.29 -
I'm not familiar with what kitten is. Is that a typo?
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According to US News, it is the Mediterranean Diet.
On the other hand, I read a study today that asparagus feeds cancer. There is no single, perfect diet that will guarantee you health and longevity. Chasing the perfect diet will likely cause enough stress to kill you or lead to restrictions that result in malnutrition.
Low fat foods in and of themselves do not cause inflammation. Many fruits and vegetables are anti inflammatory, as a matter of fact. Low fat food stuff that has engineered the fat out of baked goods is another story.0 -
That's what I meant, low fat processed foods.
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Dr. Josh Axe must have done a google search on PubMed. Try it yourself. intestinal permeability, pubmed14
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The lab test tested lactulose levels in urine. it was called an intestinal permeability test. Before this, a nutrition biochemist named Van Beveren pricked my blood from my finger and looked at it under a microscope and saw food particles in my bloodstream. He said I had leaky gut. If I didn't have digestive holes, then how did the food get there?
L-glutamine and bone broth and collagen are known to repair the intestinal wall gut lining. In fact, after the program, i was free of leaky gut. Meaning the test came out normal.
The test was done by Genova Diagnostics.
I'm not saying everyone should believe in this. I'm just saying that functional medicine doctors usually describe leaky gut as a condition. The Institute of Functional Medicine would agree. It's perfectly fine for me if you disagree though.
Are you surprised that food acts as medicine in so many ways? It really does.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. Don't you find it suspicious that only functional doctors believe in this? That is not how the gut works at all. You know holes in your intestinal walls is a medical emergency? I guess you really like wasting your money on such nonsense. Again show me one legitimate gastroenterologist who does these tests.17 -
Intestinal permeability and leaky gut syndrome are not the same thing by the way.8
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Plus dr axe is a quack.10
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Dr. Josh Axe must have done a google search on PubMed. Try it yourself. intestinal permeability, pubmed
I just pulled up the pubmed site and searched "leaky gut." My search only found 248 returns, most of them studies on patients with other conditions already. What did you do differently to get 11k?7 -
diannethegeek wrote: »Dr. Josh Axe must have done a google search on PubMed. Try it yourself. intestinal permeability, pubmed
I just pulled up the pubmed site and searched "leaky gut." My search only found 248 returns, most of them studies on patients with other conditions already. What did you do differently to get 11k?
Sounds like quack Dr Axe said it so I guess it must be true.
Oh btw I actually had holes in my intestine (fistulas). If you aren't in a huge amount of pain or have major health issues you do not have hles.16
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