Does it annoy anyone else...

oh man this annoys me soo much .. i have plenty of friends who are on a different diet every week.. like silly ones like the atkins- this is not healthy or sustainable ! but i agree with others there is nothing we can do to change there minds! and the usual reason i get when i question why there doing a specific diet is because apparently its the only thing that works for there body .. hmmm i dont think so ! man this is definetly one of my pet peeves! and then all of a sudden im the one who is in the wrong for eating wholegrain bread becuase its a carb ? no im not in the wrong.. this is called a blanced lifestyle! ok rant over. good post

What annoys me are people like you who criticize Atkins without apparently knowing the first dam thing about it. It is both health and sustainable and I can post scientific studies which back that up. Can you?

http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20090401/how-the-atkins-diet-fares-in-cholesterol

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/07/earlyshow/health/main6841541.shtml

Two separate studies pointing to problems with the Atkins diet. Personally I don't care one way or the other, if that diet works for you great. The health benefits of being thinner probably outweigh any potential health risks it adds. Additionally, sustainability is a personal issue, what works for one person may not work for another. Finding a long-term diet you're comfortable with is the key to sustainability, not the diet's inherent design.

The point I AM making though is don't start throwing studies around, because for every study you show me pointing one way on a topic, I'm sure I can find one that states the opposing conclusion (like remember when eggs were really bad?).

I have read both of those studies (the actual study, not the news media digest version) and they are both idiotic. The first is a joke in that it followed 18 subjects for one month and it doesn't even appear the researcher had the subjects even do a correct Atkins diet.

The second study is similarly a joke. Read Denise Menger tearing it a new one here: http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/09/08/brand-spankin-new-study-are-low-carb-meat-eaters-in-trouble/
I'll sum up her comments in Cliff Notes: Many reporting the results of the research used the word 'causes' when at most this type of observational, non-controlled study can show correlations. They collected their data using the generally unreliable food frequency questionnaires. The 'low carb' subjects weren't even eating a low carb diet unless you count people who eat up to 60% of their calories as carbs. To associate anything that study found to 'low carb' or specifically Atkins is dumb because almost no one in it was actually doing a low carb diet.

Maybe you should actually read the studies instead of the webmd or cbsnews digested versions?

Apparently you missed my point completely, maybe you should have actually read my post. I'm not suggesting anything regarding the validity of the studies mentioned in these articles or the studies you mention. Nor do I care enough about this topic to actually take the time to go read through the actual reports from these studies. My point remains unchanged. You have an emmotional vesting in this (as you've displayed here) and then brought up the infamous "scientific studies" argument. My point, which I'll make again since I apparently didn't make it clear enough in the last post, is that I can show studies to both sides of any argument. And as far as the validity of the studies, that's a subjective topic that could be argued till we're all blue in the face. So why bother. If you've found a diet plan that works for you and that you feel you can commit to for the long term, then who cares about freakin' studies. Again, as I stated before, I am personally convinced that if you improve your body composition the health benefits from that will far outweigh any potential health risks your diet may come with.

You should have read my original post, there really was some good stuff in there.

I don't have that many people that want to discuss this with a man - so I am pretty lucky. I would be annoyed. I am down 54 lbs since I got started, and I am happy about that. I am not doing this with anyone else, or for anyone else. I just wanted to be at a weight I was happy about. I do enjoy when people who know me say you look great - but so far no one has asked how did you do it, or have you tried XYZ diet. Most of them see my NOOM posts on Facebook and see that I run 2 miles everyday at 5:45 am.

Just keep taking pictures and getting compliments!

You know what else is annoying? When someone constantly (and I mean ALL the time) complains about their weight to you (saying things like "I wish I was thin like YOU and not fat like ME!") but they turn around and eat 3 double cheeseburgers, large fry and large Coke from McDonald's and THEN stop at Dairy Queen for a nutter butter blizzard too.

We all make decisions based on what WE want to do with our lives. I won't criticize how you eat, but really? Stop complaining at me if all you're going to do is stuff your face with junk. It drives me insane. If you aren't willing to change? You aren't going to lose weight.

Really good points ... they need to recognize the concept of "calories in, calories out" ... for some of us that takes way too long, but we keep picking ourselves up and going forward ;-D BTW ... you are looking totally awesome!! Looking forward to having an equally fab profile picture about 47-57 lbs from now!

Doesn't really annoy me, but in the case of my friend it concerns me.

Close friend has PCOS, and has had a hard toime losing wieght. Let me also say I don't know how "hard" she has actually tried.
Anyway she has decided to go to "Orion rapid weigth loss center".
She starts to tell me about it and at first sounds okay. They start with what sounds like a routine physical, then she tells me she will be getting a weekly B complex shot. I'm thinking, "alright I've seem a few comments on here asking about B vitamins helping with weight loss, maybe something to look into."
Now comes the "diet", first week no carbs, all meat for the first week. So I'm thinking similar to Atkins. Then she drops the Bomb, she has to stay with-in 700 to 850 cals. WHAT?! Oh then she adds, "It won't be a problem, they give you appetite surpressants."
Again, WHAT?! Well of coarse your going to lose weight, your eating no carb, and only 700cal of meat. No wonder they give you the B complex shot, your body isn't getting enough fuel!!!
This place is run by a DR! Wait...excuse me, Quack! She's on week three, and still at 700 to 850cal but can now have 20g of carbs from veggies. Only lost 10lbs, hum maybe cause your body is starving and holding on to anything and everything it can?????
Oh wait, ...the best part, it costs $49.95 a week. Thats the summer special rate, regularly $69.95 a week.
So like I said, annoyed, no. Concerned, oh yeah!!

It's only annoying when they're looking for advice "oh, you've lost weight, how did you do it?" and when I tell them they say "oh, well, maybe I can try something else."

i've experienced this with so many friends! if you dont want to take my advice then why are you asking?!!?!?!

oh man this annoys me soo much .. i have plenty of friends who are on a different diet every week.. like silly ones like the atkins- this is not healthy or sustainable ! but i agree with others there is nothing we can do to change there minds! and the usual reason i get when i question why there doing a specific diet is because apparently its the only thing that works for there body .. hmmm i dont think so ! man this is definetly one of my pet peeves! and then all of a sudden im the one who is in the wrong for eating wholegrain bread becuase its a carb ? no im not in the wrong.. this is called a blanced lifestyle! ok rant over. good post

What annoys me are people like you who criticize Atkins without apparently knowing the first dam thing about it. It is both health and sustainable and I can post scientific studies which back that up. Can you?

http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20090401/how-the-atkins-diet-fares-in-cholesterol

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/07/earlyshow/health/main6841541.shtml

Two separate studies pointing to problems with the Atkins diet. Personally I don't care one way or the other, if that diet works for you great. The health benefits of being thinner probably outweigh any potential health risks it adds. Additionally, sustainability is a personal issue, what works for one person may not work for another. Finding a long-term diet you're comfortable with is the key to sustainability, not the diet's inherent design.

The point I AM making though is don't start throwing studies around, because for every study you show me pointing one way on a topic, I'm sure I can find one that states the opposing conclusion (like remember when eggs were really bad?).

I have read both of those studies (the actual study, not the news media digest version) and they are both idiotic. The first is a joke in that it followed 18 subjects for one month and it doesn't even appear the researcher had the subjects even do a correct Atkins diet.

The second study is similarly a joke. Read Denise Menger tearing it a new one here: http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/09/08/brand-spankin-new-study-are-low-carb-meat-eaters-in-trouble/
I'll sum up her comments in Cliff Notes: Many reporting the results of the research used the word 'causes' when at most this type of observational, non-controlled study can show correlations. They collected their data using the generally unreliable food frequency questionnaires. The 'low carb' subjects weren't even eating a low carb diet unless you count people who eat up to 60% of their calories as carbs. To associate anything that study found to 'low carb' or specifically Atkins is dumb because almost no one in it was actually doing a low carb diet.

Maybe you should actually read the studies instead of the webmd or cbsnews digested versions?

Apparently you missed my point completely, maybe you should have actually read my post. I'm not suggesting anything regarding the validity of the studies mentioned in these articles or the studies you mention. Nor do I care enough about this topic to actually take the time to go read through the actual reports from these studies. My point remains unchanged. You have an emmotional vesting in this (as you've displayed here) and then brought up the infamous "scientific studies" argument. My point, which I'll make again since I apparently didn't make it clear enough in the last post, is that I can show studies to both sides of any argument. And as far as the validity of the studies, that's a subjective topic that could be argued till we're all blue in the face. So why bother. If you've found a diet plan that works for you and that you feel you can commit to for the long term, then who cares about freakin' studies. Again, as I stated before, I am personally convinced that if you improve your body composition the health benefits from that will far outweigh any potential health risks your diet may come with.

You should have read my original post, there really was some good stuff in there.

No, I read and understood your original post which started "Two separate studies pointing to problems with the Atkins diet". The first study you referenced had serious problems even a layman drunk on carbs could spot. The second had NOTHING to do with Atkins at all. If that is your idea of "good stuff", I'll pass.

Go back and read the post I originally responded to which you felt the need to reply to. I brought up "scientific studies" because there are voluminous ones to support the benefits of low carb to respond to a poster's claim that such diets were "not healthy or sustainable". Why don't you hold her to the standard you are attempting to hold me to? Someone posting that another diet is "not healthy or sustainable" should be able to back up such a claim, don't you think?

If I'm emotional about this, its because I see so much ignorance, misinformation, and outright stupidity about low carb diets bandied about on these forums as fact on an hourly basis by people who clearly have no clue about them that I sometimes feel the need to pull my hair out, and I don't have much of it to spare.

That's exactly what I was thinking! Now all I want is a Nutter Butter Blizzard!! Must.Be.Strong.

When you hear people talking about and recommending fad diets to people, and raving about how they lost 10 lbs in one week! Then I tryto tell them about counting calories and no one will listen bc it doesn't offer "fast" results?? But little do they know, all that weight loss cannot be sustained

Meh... let'em do it. Can't have winners without losers...

Nope. I like being hotter than the people around me.

@circusmom, alot of pcos sufferers do need b vit shots or tablets, because metformin (insulin resistance drug help) reduces the amount of biotin (b12 i think and a few other b vits) from absorbing properly.

This is part of their program, had it listed in the pamphlet she showed me. The way I read it, they do it for everyone on their program.