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PeteReadmfp18
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Watching a bbc documentary 'The Truth About Fitness' and the general theme seems to be lighter resistance weights, bodyweight training, HIIT training is the way to go (unless you are a bodybuilder sculpting body parts).
And while 10k steps per day is good, that theory has been around since the 1960's and there is as much benefit in a few 10 minute bursts of fast walking/light jogging per day.
I saw another one called 'The Truth About Weight Loss' and the results were saying for active people, lower carb and higher protein is the key.
Also while clean eating is great for the fibre/vitamins - it really does not matter if you have treat days as long as you stay under calories or at worse break into your exercise calories.
Also surprisingly, jogging is not as bad for your joints as we think - because by jogging 20 minutes means your feet hit the floor less than 20 minutes of walking (and the joint pressure from jogging actually can ease arthritis)
Amazing what stuff you can learn from these programmes!
And while 10k steps per day is good, that theory has been around since the 1960's and there is as much benefit in a few 10 minute bursts of fast walking/light jogging per day.
I saw another one called 'The Truth About Weight Loss' and the results were saying for active people, lower carb and higher protein is the key.
Also while clean eating is great for the fibre/vitamins - it really does not matter if you have treat days as long as you stay under calories or at worse break into your exercise calories.
Also surprisingly, jogging is not as bad for your joints as we think - because by jogging 20 minutes means your feet hit the floor less than 20 minutes of walking (and the joint pressure from jogging actually can ease arthritis)
Amazing what stuff you can learn from these programmes!
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Not 'everyone' thinks running is bad for you in the first place...3
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How many people are actually able to do HIIT? And that's not a light training. Or did the BBC fall into the interval training = HIIT trap as well?3
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TavistockToad wrote: »Not 'everyone' thinks running is bad for you in the first place...
You are right - not everyone does but there is a belief by some that running hurts your knees - thanks to the bad press3 -
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Beginning to think that posting in forums is a bad idea - all i did was try to contribute15
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PeteReadmfp18 wrote: »Beginning to think that posting in forums is a bad idea - all i did was try to contribute
So people aren't allowed to have differing opinions?8 -
I saw an article on the BBC website about the 10000 steps/three brisk walks idea and thought that it was very interesting. It's more achievable in a day too. I can park my car slightly further away and get one in on each end of my working day and can get a ten minute walk into a 30 minute lunch break.3
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Heavier weights combined with running a couple of times a week, mountain biking and hiking, and eating moderate carbs and protein all work for me, personally. I get the results I'm looking for. I think there's no single right way to do it.
Ever since I started lifting heavy weight I've stopped getting running injuries and increased my speed and endurance. I have more power. I guess I could do the same thing with lighter resistance, but heavier is fun and makes me feel like a beast, so why not challenge myself?
Regular running seems to keep my joints lubricated and happy. I get stiff and start to feel like an old lady if I take a lot of time off. I pay attention to my body so I know how to hard to push myself. It's good for me, I haven't had any injuries in years, and I enjoy it.
Lower carbs would not be sustainable for me. I choose to fuel my endurance workouts with carbs, and I enjoy carby foods - being without them makes me want to punch a wall or somebody's face. There's no need for me to restrict them, since I don't have any blood sugar issues and my weight is pretty close to ideal. I don't shove a bunch of refined sugar in my face, but I do love my carbs!10 -
I saw an article on the BBC website about the 10000 steps/three brisk walks idea and thought that it was very interesting. It's more achievable in a day too. I can park my car slightly further away and get one in on each end of my working day and can get a ten minute walk into a 30 minute lunch break.
I think that's exactly the point - it makes it more manageable so more people who are completely sedentary start to do it.
Any movement is better than none.5 -
Low resistance is good as a way for women to keep their bones healthy as they age and that’s about it. You can lift heavy and not aim to be a bodybuilder too though. Fitness isn’t black and white which is why I usually don’t like those kind of shows/articles. They are usually cherry picked and biased though those seem less sonthen others.1
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I saw the programme too and found it interesting (tho overstated). For those who didn't, it is research based so atleast there is an attempt at latest research results om which to base your opininion!
Anyway I downloaded the Active 10 app the NHS has recently created - that is promoting the same approach. It tells you how much of your walking is 'brisk' (broadly 3 miles an hour or more) - and tells you if you manage this for more than c10 mins in amy one stretch (which is where the heart health cardiovascular benefits really kick in).
I like it. For example I walked over 11000 steps yesterday. Around 50 mins of this was at a brisk pace (It gave me the total time too). But I only walked at a brisk pace continuosly (ir 10 mins stretch) twice.
It is good for my overall health that I was on my feet that much. My body would benefit even more if I managed to walk faster more of the time.
I shsll be trying,
I thought the programme overstated as clearly it is better to do both - lots of walking around, much of it active. But the key point is that some fast walking (10 minute bursts) is better than lots of slow walking if you want to make a significant improvement in your heart health. Or have limited time (or whatever) and find a steps goal discouraging.
(And if you want to think calorie burn not heart health - it is good to know what proportion of your day's walking is actually at what pace for the mfp calorie 'eat back')
Thanks for the OP. I came onto the forum to find other users of this Active 10 app!0 -
Low resistance is good as a way for women to keep their bones healthy as they age and that’s about it.
I thought high resistance was better for bone health. I'm assuming the low resistance recommendation is more for cardiovascular fitness?
This is the problem, "fitness" or "health" can mean different things.2 -
The programs of Michael Mosley do at least have some foundation in science and research. I think the issue is that you have to see who the target audience is - the 80% who fail to get enough exercise or the 20% who do go to the gym, perform resistance training, break into a sweat for more than 30 minutes 12 times a month.
The message that it's easier to fit in training and get health benefits than most people think is important for the majority of the population, although many would be surprised how infrequently they walk at a brisk pace for 10 minutes or more (good call on the Active 10 app - available here https://www.nhs.uk/oneyou/active10/home#6ga83gI1b7cqbs0J.97 )*
The context is also that Mosley admits he hates exercise so has looked for the base minimum to have a health impact in a number of these programs. It's like the 5-2 diet, finding what may work for those that struggle with self motivation.
I think the real message is to do as much as you can without giving yourself injuries, but this program at least shows how to achieve the minimum in a time efficient manner.
*this is the NHS that the Donald is so keen to disparage performing proactive health management because that's what a universal health care system looks like*3 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »Low resistance is good as a way for women to keep their bones healthy as they age and that’s about it.
I thought high resistance was better for bone health. I'm assuming the low resistance recommendation is more for cardiovascular fitness?
This is the problem, "fitness" or "health" can mean different things.
This is my understanding as well.0 -
There are all kinds of opinions about weight loss and exercising.
All are right and none are right.1 -
PeteReadmfp18 wrote: »Beginning to think that posting in forums is a bad idea - all i did was try to contribute
I'm glad you posted. I found the information interesting.2 -
PeteReadmfp18 wrote: »Beginning to think that posting in forums is a bad idea - all i did was try to contribute
I get you. I made the cardinal sin of posting something I understood, wrongly as it turns out, to be correct and several responses and messages convinced me that the community is not for me. I will certainly use mfp for tracking and to read up and try to learn more but I will not post again. I have zero problem with being told I am wrong. I am sure I have several concepts backwards, but when it veers into insults or references to stupidity I realize the type of person I am dealing with and simply step aside.
There are members in here with thousands of posts to their credit and I am convinced they know a LOT more than I but in life when I hear someone say something wrong I try to correct them, in a civil manner. I suspect the issue is that long time members have run their patience thin having to answer the same questions over and over and they have gotten to the point that they get insulting or patronizing in their responses. It is both understandable and a shame as I have seen a dozen or more threads where people with 5-10 posts ask a question or suggest something only to get jumped on.
The community forums have a LOT of information and I will use them to glean what knowledge I can.7 -
PeteReadmfp18 wrote: »Beginning to think that posting in forums is a bad idea - all i did was try to contribute
I get you. I made the cardinal sin of posting something I understood, wrongly as it turns out, to be correct and several responses and messages convinced me that the community is not for me. I will certainly use mfp for tracking and to read up and try to learn more but I will not post again.
I am very confused by this thread, I can't see where anyone is being insulting and I don't understand what upset the OP in the first place. It seems like quite a peaceful, constructive discussion.5 -
Michael Mosley? I am going to say that the science is probably skewed in a lot of places, that chap has an agenda and used his title erroneously (he hasn't practiced in eons).
That said, the ten minute bursts of purposeful get the heart rate up a little, walking is a good thing to promote if getting 10k steps, an arbitrary number, is more of a challenge for you.1
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