Keto Diet - Yay or nay?
DaniDoll57
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I’ve been looking at different changes to make in my food choices. My biggest problem is fast food so if I cut that out, I know that’s a great first step. But I feel like I need to still do something different at home to keep it exciting and easy to follow at the same time.
I’ve had several friends suggest the keto diet but I want to hear if anyone has actually had success with it and if it’s something that can be easily shipped for and prepared.
I’ve had several friends suggest the keto diet but I want to hear if anyone has actually had success with it and if it’s something that can be easily shipped for and prepared.
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It's a nay for me personally - I feel great eating carbs and am not satiated by fat. But it does seem to work for some people. If you search the forums for "keto" there are always tons of threads of people talking about it.10
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Keto is just a way of restricting what you eat. It works for many people because the focus on fats and protein helps with satiety. You can actually achieve similar results by limiting starches and fruits, rather than eliminating them. I have yet to see a study that compares keto to limiting; the (usually questionable) studies tend to compare keto to the normal American diet, rather than some compromise between the two.
For me, a keto diet is either boring (limited choices) or a lot of work (preparing complicated recipes), but that is entirely personal. Someone could make my current diet complicated by using more complicated recipes to achieve the same goals and my husband's diet is boring without being keto.
I do often wonder about fiber intake for the keto diet.7 -
Exciting to me is the ability to eat a wide variety of foods, without ridiculous restrictions or negative food associations.
Easy is eating foods I enjoy, that i know I can prepare in the time available.
Keto doesn't really fit that for me, and is unnecessary for weight loss, just like any diet with a name (that has rules attached)14 -
The quest for excitement was what made me fat/struggle with weight and relationship with food, for over twenty years. I wanted food to be exciting, I wanted to lose weight in a fashionable style. Sciency sounding revealing of "secrets" - oooh, sign me up!
As I have become older, and learnt to ask questions, observe and use my rational mind, on this area too, I prefer easy, and I don't mind simple. I don't think that is boring. I have boundaries, but they are sensible and flexible. This means that I get to choose any foods I want, I just have to not routinely eat too much. Of course I want to eat more sometimes, and sometimes I eat more than planned, but not all the time. It's not something I would call "hard" or "battle" anymore. It boils down to just making a small ongoing effort, and then living a happy, everyday, life.2 -
Answer is simple if you're doing it for non-medical reasons: yay if you find it easier to sustain than other macro distributions, nay if you don't.
Edit: Oh, forgot to add how it went for me. Nope, it hindered my success because I didn't like it, was hungry on it, and had unwanted side effects. So it's definitely a nay for me, but your mileage may vary.4 -
I gave it an honest shot for a solid month, with 20g net daily on carbs, and it was ok. Great weight dropper but the restrictions just weren’t my style. I’m just doing CICO and I’m losing at the same pace with no restrictions on my carbs (but I do eat well regardless). I didn’t struggle too much on it but I wouldn’t do it again.2
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I tried keto for a year, lost weight, missed carbs too much, went back to a standard diet, regained the weight. That's the TLDR version anyway.
Now I'm losing weight again in a much more sustainable way for me. I'm almost down to my lowest adult weight EVER, and I'm doing it solely by counting calories. I still enjoy fast food, desserts, pasta dishes, rice, etc. I just make sure to log everything accurately and stick to a calorie deficit.
It's that simple.2 -
DaniDoll57 wrote: »I’ve been looking at different changes to make in my food choices. My biggest problem is fast food so if I cut that out, I know that’s a great first step. But I feel like I need to still do something different at home to keep it exciting and easy to follow at the same time.
I’ve had several friends suggest the keto diet but I want to hear if anyone has actually had success with it and if it’s something that can be easily shipped for and prepared.
Personally, I wouldn't find keto either exciting nor easy to follow...it's extremely restrictive as you are all but eliminating an entire macro, but if you enjoy eating a lot of fat and don't really care about eating carbs...and I'm not talking about junk food...I'm talking fruit, veg, whole grains, legumes, lentils, potatoes, etc then go for it.
I'd personally find keto very boring...but many of my favorite foods are carbohydrates. A lot of people have success with it though...it's just one of many ways to create a calorie deficit...a very restrictive way...5 -
Has anyone here actually done Keto? I’ve been doing it about a week and I’m shocked at how amazing I feel and how my food control has changed. I do t see how t as a sustainable diet for life, but I definitely see it as a great way to Get a good education on how food works for us and get a whole new mind frame about portions and it could possibly change the binge mentality. I’m very excited with the changes I’m seeing and plan to keep practicing this for awhile!9
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Has anyone here actually done Keto? I’ve been doing it about a week and I’m shocked at how amazing I feel and how my food control has changed. I do t see how t as a sustainable diet for life, but I definitely see it as a great way to Get a good education on how food works for us and get a whole new mind frame about portions and it could possibly change the binge mentality. I’m very excited with the changes I’m seeing and plan to keep practicing this for awhile!
There are several here that have commented that have done it. I've never done it, nor would I consider doing it outside of a doctor telling me that it was basically my only option.
I eat a very healthy, whole foods focused diet that is varied and balanced...lots of veg, some fruit, whole grains, legumes and lentils, root vegetables, lean proteins and healthy fats from things like avocados, nuts, and good cooking oils. I feel pretty amazing myself.
I learned portions just fine with calorie counting and don't have any kind of binge mentality. I'm also a bit unsure about the "good education on how food works for us"...you're all but eliminating and entire macro-nutrient...and one that typically contains much of the micro nutrition we need.
I'd wager that any movement away from the SAD is going to make one feel better.9 -
I wouldn't find any restricting diet to be exciting OR easy to follow.
Instead, I walk through the grocery store, find whole foods that look interesting (along with a variety of spices) and put them together into my meals that week.
Learning to use spice and a variety of preparation methods keeps food exciting for me. Trying new things or new ways of making old things is exciting. Variety is the spice of life!
I do NOT spend a lot of time in the kitchen - I don't have a ton of time available to be making intricate recipes, so I keep it simple and make good use of spices and the like.1 -
Has anyone here actually done Keto? I’ve been doing it about a week and I’m shocked at how amazing I feel and how my food control has changed. I do t see how t as a sustainable diet for life, but I definitely see it as a great way to Get a good education on how food works for us and get a whole new mind frame about portions and it could possibly change the binge mentality. I’m very excited with the changes I’m seeing and plan to keep practicing this for awhile!
I've been following a keto diet since the first of the year and I am down 22 lbs so far. I find it easy for me to follow and stick with. I have found a lot of recipes on Pinterest that I have tried and liked. Most are pretty simple. Some are more complex, but I like to cook. My husband is eating what I am eating and he is down 19 lbs. I don't find this way of eating restrictive at all. I have found good substitutes for bread and pasta so I don't miss them.
I also drink at least a gallon of water a day and try to get at least 8 hours of sleep a night. I feel better than I have in a long time and am liking the results on and off the scale.
I know that not every diet is for everyone. Try it for a couple of weeks and see how you do, how you feel, and how your body reacts.13 -
Has anyone here actually done Keto? I’ve been doing it about a week and I’m shocked at how amazing I feel and how my food control has changed. I do t see how t as a sustainable diet for life, but I definitely see it as a great way to Get a good education on how food works for us and get a whole new mind frame about portions and it could possibly change the binge mentality. I’m very excited with the changes I’m seeing and plan to keep practicing this for awhile!
I did it for a year, as mentioned above. When I stopped doing it, I regained all the weight because I went on crazy carb binges after missing them for so long. When I was coming off keto, it started as "oh, well maybe I'll just have one slice of pizza..." or "adding in a slice of whole wheat bread won't hurt..." then before I knew it, I was right back up at my starting weight.
I also felt pretty good on keto, I enjoy the satiety of fat and the reduced bloating. But a life without bagels, pizza, french fries, pasta, rice and desserts was a life I didn't wish to live. And keto didn't teach me anything aside from instilling in me a deep lust for the forbidden carb.10 -
Has anyone here actually done Keto? I’ve been doing it about a week and I’m shocked at how amazing I feel and how my food control has changed. I do t see how t as a sustainable diet for life, but I definitely see it as a great way to Get a good education on how food works for us and get a whole new mind frame about portions and it could possibly change the binge mentality. I’m very excited with the changes I’m seeing and plan to keep practicing this for awhile!
I did it for a year, as mentioned above. When I stopped doing it, I regained all the weight because I went on crazy carb binges after missing them for so long.
I also felt pretty good on keto, I enjoy the satiety of fat and the reduced bloating. But a life without bagels, pizza, french fries, pasta, rice and desserts was a life I didn't wish to live.
You forgot about beer...6 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Has anyone here actually done Keto? I’ve been doing it about a week and I’m shocked at how amazing I feel and how my food control has changed. I do t see how t as a sustainable diet for life, but I definitely see it as a great way to Get a good education on how food works for us and get a whole new mind frame about portions and it could possibly change the binge mentality. I’m very excited with the changes I’m seeing and plan to keep practicing this for awhile!
I did it for a year, as mentioned above. When I stopped doing it, I regained all the weight because I went on crazy carb binges after missing them for so long.
I also felt pretty good on keto, I enjoy the satiety of fat and the reduced bloating. But a life without bagels, pizza, french fries, pasta, rice and desserts was a life I didn't wish to live.
You forgot about beer...
Hah, I'm actually not a beer or wine drinker. Diet coke and dark rum all the way! So at least that aspect of keto was easy to follow.0 -
I've been KETO since October. I don't miss the bread, pasta, pizza, rice and blah blah blah. The one time I went off track it made me so sick and bloated that it just wasn't worth it to me. I still have desserts but they are KETO friendly. Ehhh it's all about what you want to do. At the end of the day I still believe it's CICO - so it's all in how you choose to spend them.7
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I've done it imperfectly for over six months. When I'm doing it right, it's awesome because I seem to be able to control my portions better, and don't get insanely hungry in-between meals. This was a big problem for me prior to starting keto - I could eat A LOT and OFTEN
I sometimes miss the starches, but there are lots of workarounds that do the trick once you get used to them.
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For me personally it wouldn't work. I've found through experience that if I cut certain foods out then I'll end up binging on them at some point. But others have done great adhering to their deficit on it.2
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Nope, love my carbs5
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I've been doing it since July 1st and have lost 42 pounds. My blood chemistry and lab values have all come back with flying colors, and I feel much better than I have in years. There is a fair amount of misinformation in this thread re. what restrictions exist, (for example, I eat a ton of vegetables, but they are all green and grow above ground) but that's to be expected with any non-mainstream way of eating. I basically just follow the protocols of Dr. Westman of Duke University Health and Dr. Eenfeldt of dietdoctor.com. I do miss beer and bread, but that's the only "sacrifice" I've really made.18
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tried it for almost 2 months before I knew I had familial hypercholesterolemia(my body cant process fats and cholesterol sufficiently). so it made me really really ill and Im not talking keto flu either. needless to say it was most likely all that high fat that was causing me so many issues. I was beyond lethargic,had bad breath and even worse smelling sweat,I couldnt think straight, was even more forgetful than I am now. once I stopped I started feeling better and was not as lethargic and things went back to being normal. so for me its a NO because of the high fat aspect.1
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Nay from me. I tried for around 2 weeks but I found it unpractical and boring. I love my bananas, oranges, apples, rice, potatoes etc...I would rather change my lifestyle than drop LOTS of weight and look skinny fat by the end of the 'diet'.
Also just the simplicity of counting calories is awesome and i get to eat pizza, kebabs and cheeseburgers every now and again ^^
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Nope, I dont demonize food for weight loss. I demonize food that tastes awful.8
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Keto seems to really suit people for 3 reasons:
- they like to eat high fat, low carb food.
- they find low carb reduces their appetite and cravings for carbs.
- Their health is improved (alzheimer's, hypoglycemia, T2D, CAD, autoimmune issues, etc.).
If your reasons match up with one of those, keto may work well for you. If you agree with 2 or more reasons, then keto may be something worth doing.
I've been keto for most of the past 3 years. For me it works. I am healthier, my weight is better controlled and my cravings are diminished. For me, a higher carb diet means a return to poor health and feeling low energy. Not worth it, for me.9 -
The question to ask is can you follow it, are you ok with restricting a lot of healthy foods, and does it support your goals?
Our success is not going to be indicactive of yours. Personally, any time i restrict carbs and increase fats, i am starving. But as i increase carbs, i am satiated. Fruits are a huge part of my weight loss and health. I have lost and kept off 50 lbs for 6 years by eating a ton of carba and protein. When i cut weight, i cut fat, because fats are expensive and dont fill me up. And i can easily binge on cheese.0 -
Chigreydog wrote: »I've been doing it since July 1st and have lost 42 pounds. My blood chemistry and lab values have all come back with flying colors, and I feel much better than I have in years. There is a fair amount of misinformation in this thread re. what restrictions exist, (for example, I eat a ton of vegetables, but they are all green and grow above ground) but that's to be expected with any non-mainstream way of eating. I basically just follow the protocols of Dr. Westman of Duke University Health and Dr. Eenfeldt of dietdoctor.com. I do miss beer and bread, but that's the only "sacrifice" I've really made.
There isnt misinformation in this thread. The fact that almost all fruits, breads, legumes, many high GI veggies, starches, oats and more are restricted demonstrates that its restrictive.
Heck, you even point out that you miss carbs... So just saying.9 -
Has anyone here actually done Keto? I’ve been doing it about a week and I’m shocked at how amazing I feel and how my food control has changed. I do t see how t as a sustainable diet for life, but I definitely see it as a great way to Get a good education on how food works for us and get a whole new mind frame about portions and it could possibly change the binge mentality. I’m very excited with the changes I’m seeing and plan to keep practicing this for awhile!
I feel great when fully in ketosis. Hunger is minimal and I don't get that afternoon "carb crash".
But I do love carbs and don't think a fully ketogenic diet is compatible with real life.2 -
if you love fats, yay. If you love carbs, nay. It doesn't really matter either way, all diets work via calorie deficits, and keto is certainly one perfectly valid way to get one.
I prefer a more typical macro breakdown of 50-20-30ish.1 -
Chigreydog wrote: »I've been doing it since July 1st and have lost 42 pounds. My blood chemistry and lab values have all come back with flying colors, and I feel much better than I have in years. There is a fair amount of misinformation in this thread re. what restrictions exist, (for example, I eat a ton of vegetables, but they are all green and grow above ground) but that's to be expected with any non-mainstream way of eating. I basically just follow the protocols of Dr. Westman of Duke University Health and Dr. Eenfeldt of dietdoctor.com. I do miss beer and bread, but that's the only "sacrifice" I've really made.
There isnt misinformation in this thread. The fact that almost all fruits, breads, legumes, many high GI veggies, starches, oats and more are restricted demonstrates that its restrictive.
Heck, you even point out that you miss carbs... So just saying.
Actually, there is. I specifically pointed out that I miss beer and bread, not carbs in general, and of course, I didn't say that no restrictions existed, so let's dispel that strawman. Let me change 'fair amount' to 'some' then. Some posts mentioned vegetable restriction to the degree that would lead one to believe that vegetables weren't allowed, and that isn't accurate.5 -
Chigreydog wrote: »Chigreydog wrote: »I've been doing it since July 1st and have lost 42 pounds. My blood chemistry and lab values have all come back with flying colors, and I feel much better than I have in years. There is a fair amount of misinformation in this thread re. what restrictions exist, (for example, I eat a ton of vegetables, but they are all green and grow above ground) but that's to be expected with any non-mainstream way of eating. I basically just follow the protocols of Dr. Westman of Duke University Health and Dr. Eenfeldt of dietdoctor.com. I do miss beer and bread, but that's the only "sacrifice" I've really made.
There isnt misinformation in this thread. The fact that almost all fruits, breads, legumes, many high GI veggies, starches, oats and more are restricted demonstrates that its restrictive.
Heck, you even point out that you miss carbs... So just saying.
Actually, there is. I specifically pointed out that I miss beer and bread, not carbs in general, and of course, I didn't say that no restrictions existed, so let's dispel that strawman. Let me change 'fair amount' to 'some' then. Some posts mentioned vegetable restriction to the degree that would lead one to believe that vegetables weren't allowed, and that isn't accurate.
Well there are a lot of vegetables that are restricted. And depending on if you are going to total carbs or net carbs, and whether or not you are at 20g vs 50g, it could be pretty substantial. And vegetable restriction is different than eliminating veggies. If you took it that way, i suspect it is your interpretation of restriction vs elimination.4
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