6 weeks into boot camp and weights: I gained 10 pounds AND inches
roncyrier
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I am 48. I joined a gym to lose weight and get trim. I am 5 ft 10. When I started 6 weeks ago, I weighed 225 pounds. After doing boot camp consistently 3x/week, and weights 1 - 2x per week I am gaining mass. I am eating 2000 calories a day with lots of fish, eggs, protein shakes, vegetables, etc with the occasional pizza cheat nights. I know muscle weighs more than fat and that it takes time for it to start burning the fat, but 6 weeks? How long is it going to take for my weight to start dropping? What can I change do get the fat burning off?
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Do you weigh everything you put in your mouth using a food scale? The occasional pizza is fine as long as it fits in your calorie intake for the day you can eat WHAT YOU WANT in your calorie goal for the day as long as you are sticking to it and logging accurately using a food scale5
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Eat less.7
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I gained 15 lbs in boot camp, but I started out at only 145 and 5'11"
I don't remember having internet access until after I graduated. And the TI's made sure we ate appropriately.6 -
stanmann571 wrote: »I gained 15 lbs in boot camp, but I started out at only 145 and 5'11"
I don't remember having internet access until after I graduated. And the TI's made sure we ate appropriately.
I don't think that OP is In a military bootcamp.9 -
Option one: You're eating more than 2,000 calories a day because you're not logging accurately.
Option two: You're logging some days accurately, but the "pizza cheat nights" contain enough extra calories to cause weight gain.
Either one is possible. Your diary is closed. If you open it, we can help you troubleshoot your daily logging.12 -
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janejellyroll wrote: »Option one: You're eating more than 2,000 calories a day because you're not logging accurately.
Option two: You're logging some days accurately, but the "pizza cheat nights" contain enough extra calories to cause weight gain.
Either one is possible. Your diary is closed. If you open it, we can help you troubleshoot your daily logging.
This - plus I think people greatly overestimate the cals burned in these boot camps/CrossFit workouts.14 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Option one: You're eating more than 2,000 calories a day because you're not logging accurately.
Option two: You're logging some days accurately, but the "pizza cheat nights" contain enough extra calories to cause weight gain.
Either one is possible. Your diary is closed. If you open it, we can help you troubleshoot your daily logging.
This - plus I think people greatly overestimate the cals burned in these boot camps/CrossFit workouts.
Yes, that's a great point.0 -
I am 48. I joined a gym to lose weight and get trim. I am 5 ft 10. When I started 6 weeks ago, I weighed 225 pounds. After doing boot camp consistently 3x/week, and weights 1 - 2x per week I am gaining mass. I am eating 2000 calories a day with lots of fish, eggs, protein shakes, vegetables, etc with the occasional pizza cheat nights. I know muscle weighs more than fat and that it takes time for it to start burning the fat, but 6 weeks? How long is it going to take for my weight to start dropping? What can I change do get the fat burning off?
Muscle doesn't burn fat, you burn fat by eating in calorie deficit.
Some minimal muscle gain in a calorie deficit is possible, but the question is are you really in a calorie deficit? You can be retaining some water weight as well, recovery is important if you are doing intense bouts of exercise.
Cheat days can derail your weight loss efforts, how are you handling these?
So first need to rule out food intake issues by asking if you are weighing and logging your food intake? To support your diet and exercise are you getting in adequate protein?
I think if you open your diary this will tell a lot about what is happening and not happening.
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I feel your pain!!! I lost 8 lbs last month, and have gained 3 back so far this month. Hoping its water retention because I started a more intense workout program. Hopefully in the next week i will lose a bunch at once...0
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How MUCH weight gain? How tall/old are you.
Look. If you're up 1 to 5lbs from 225 and have gone from zero exercise to a metric **kitten** ton (i.e. tonne ) of exercise a good part of your weight fluctuation is probably water weight for muscle repairs. I would assume in that situation that it hurts to move, right?
Now. If your hour of exercise a day means you are so unable to move that you're doing less instead of more throughout the day, from an energy perspective... you've done nothing to lose weight! Don't get me wrong: you've done great things for strength and that's very important too. But if you reduce your activity during 14 hours that can outcompensate one hour of frantic exercise.
If at 225lbs, you really are eating 2000 Cal on average, even as a sedentary average male you will lose weight over time. (BMR for randomly sized and aged 5ft 7" 50 yo 225lb male is about 1950 and even sedentary people expend 1.2 to 1.3x their BMR amount).
However chances are real good when first starting out that your calorie in counting is way off.
Condiments (mayo, of course, but I can easily lay 70 Cal worth of ketchup on my plate!), coffee and coffee cream or other drinks, little bites here and there, a package logged as a portion when the fine print says it is 3, weighing a cooked amount of rice and logging based on pre cooked weight nutritional values, and choosing wrong entries in the database can all lead to underestimates
Log your weight at least 2-3 weeks if male, 4-6 weeks if female using a trending weight application. Compare to what you would expect to lose based on your logging (and yes I would expect slower weight loss if seriously strength training, but I wouldn't expect zero unless at 225 you're not even overweight) and then adjust eating and general activity based on personal results.
In your case this would mean consume less calories and move a little bit more throughout the day. But before reducing my goal I would make sure that I was logging accurately.
And, by the way, is you're 6ft 6" the above advice sort of changes, which is why knowing people's full stats makes a difference.6 -
I am 48. I joined a gym to lose weight and get trim. I am 5 ft 10. When I started 6 weeks ago, I weighed 225 pounds. After doing boot camp consistently 3x/week, and weights 1 - 2x per week I am gaining mass. I am eating 2000 calories a day with lots of fish, eggs, protein shakes, vegetables, etc with the occasional pizza cheat nights. I know muscle weighs more than fat and that it takes time for it to start burning the fat, but 6 weeks? How long is it going to take for my weight to start dropping? What can I change do get the fat burning off?
As a similar sized person of similar age, with similar activities, I lost weight at a substantial rate on an average of about 2200-2400 calories per day. I'm 5'11", started at 240 and was 53 when I started - one year ago. I lost 50 pounds over about 34 weeks. I was weighing and measuring to the gram where I could, including the chocolate chip cookies I ate almost every night.
I suspect that you are not really eating 2000 calories, even if it seems like that's the case. It's not a dig on you. It's more likely an accuracy and method thing. As to strength training, it won't add mass in and of itself while you're in a deficit, but should help you retain the muscle you have. If you've gained and your weight training is a progressive overload, it's certainly possible you've added a small amount of muscle. But again, I suspect your issue is that you may not really be in a deficit. If you believe you are logging correctly, then cut your intake by a small amount and monitor what happens.5 -
I gained 10 pounds in 6 weeks. I was eating only around 1200 - 1500 calories per day but since I was gaining weight, I thought my body was holding on to every once of food so I increased my calories to 2000. I will be extra vigilant on my measuring and diary tracking over the next week or so and see if maybe I'm not measuring tracing accuracy.
Any estimates on how many calories I would burn in a 45 minute bootcamp workout? I am 235 pounds.
Thanks everyone!9 -
I gained 10 pounds in 6 weeks. I was eating only around 1200 - 1500 calories per day but since I was gaining weight, I thought my body was holding on to every once of food so I increased my calories to 2000. I will be extra vigilant on my measuring and diary tracking over the next week or so and see if maybe I'm not measuring tracing accuracy.
Any estimates on how many calories I would burn in a 45 minute bootcamp workout? I am 235 pounds.
Thanks everyone!
First, no guy should ever eat the little. Second, I wouldn't worry about how mamy calories you burn. Id aim for the same calories daily and adjust based on results. IME, following this method to be much easier that trying to track exercise calories.1 -
A lot of people seem to think weight loss goes like this:
Too many calories: no weight loss
Appropriate sized calorie deficit: weight loss
Too few calories: no weight loss
But it actually goes
Too many calories: no weight loss
Appropriate sized calorie deficit: weight loss
Too few calories: too rapid weight loss
If you're not losing weight you're not eating too few calories. Certainly 1200-1500 calories would be too few calories for a guy (particularly your size and activity) but that would be because you would *lose weight too quickly*. Since you weren't, your numbers are way off.
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I gained 10 pounds in 6 weeks. I was eating only around 1200 - 1500 calories per day but since I was gaining weight, I thought my body was holding on to every once of food so I increased my calories to 2000. I will be extra vigilant on my measuring and diary tracking over the next week or so and see if maybe I'm not measuring tracing accuracy.
Any estimates on how many calories I would burn in a 45 minute bootcamp workout? I am 235 pounds.
Thanks everyone!
Oh my... You should really consider lurking around these forums to learn more about weight loss.
Starvation mode is a complete myth. If you weren't losing weight on 1200-1500, increasing is only going to make matters worse. 1500/day is enough to make any male look like a "fragile war prisoner" if they do it long enough (google for studies that did exactly this!). There's no way you are eating anywhere close to 1200-1500 and gaining weight.
For 10 pounds gained in 6 weeks, my guess is you are eating more than 3000 calories/day... I don't know how someone can miscount calories that much, you either aren't counting liquids, aren't counting "serving sizes", or possibly both. If you truly think you are eating 1200-1500 and gaining weight, go see a doctor. It's impossible...4 -
Other than bootcamp... what else do you do?
I am not saying go out and buy a Fitbit.
Both apple and Android phones if you make an effort to keep them on you will give you a step count for the day.
Phones tend to give less steps that fitness bands because you don't always have them with you.
But what sort of step count (as a proxy of daily activity) do you get?
For now I +1 @psuLemon about getting the base level of calories approximately right before worrying about exercise.
Gaining at 2000 Cal unless it is edema / water retention does not make much sense.
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If you think your body looks and feels bloated, if you feel that breathing is more difficult when you lay down. If it appears you've not like you gained fat but a lot of water then do go to a doctor now.
Otherwise: if this is body fat then mate, you really need to get a scale!
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I gained 10 pounds in 6 weeks. I was eating only around 1200 - 1500 calories per day but since I was gaining weight, I thought my body was holding on to every once of food so I increased my calories to 2000. I will be extra vigilant on my measuring and diary tracking over the next week or so and see if maybe I'm not measuring tracing accuracy.
Any estimates on how many calories I would burn in a 45 minute bootcamp workout? I am 235 pounds.
Thanks everyone!
Oh my... You should really consider lurking around these forums to learn more about weight loss.
Starvation mode is a complete myth. If you weren't losing weight on 1200-1500, increasing is only going to make matters worse. 1500/day is enough to make any male look like a "fragile war prisoner" if they do it long enough (google for studies that did exactly this!). There's no way you are eating anywhere close to 1200-1500 and gaining weight.
For 10 pounds gained in 6 weeks, my guess is you are eating more than 3000 calories/day... I don't know how someone can miscount calories that much, you either aren't counting liquids, aren't counting "serving sizes", or possibly both. If you truly think you are eating 1200-1500 and gaining weight, go see a doctor. It's impossible...
Unless he's one of the very, extremely, almost impossibly rare people with an actual metabolic condition that makes even a man of his size have a BMR <1000, I agree. Impossible. Find someone who can demonstrate how to accurately measure and weigh foods. YouTube has videos that someone here can probably link to.0 -
Thanks everyone for all of the input. We are back from vacation and starting today will be accurately measuring all foods and liquids that I eat. Let's see if I really wasn't tracking accurately......after researching I'm going to strive for 1800 - 2000 calories per day. To answer one of the questions, I also lift weights 2x/week. Will report back in 2 weeks!4
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Good morning all! The past 5 days I have been meticulously measuring and counting every calorie. I cut out carbs that are not vegetable or beans. I also cut out sugar from my coffee and snacking on cookies. The great news? The scale has moved in the right direction! Today the scale read 227. Will stay vigilant and keep posting updates. Thank you!1
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If you have gained you are eating more than your body is burning.0
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Oops I only have just noticed your update now! glad the scale is finally moving0
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