Exasperation with meal planning...can someone tell me how to fit 3 meals into 1200 calories?
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jgnatca: thank you for the thought and the recipe! I must have a 6" binder with vegetarian recipes in it, (30 years of collecting), with a LOT of vegan, too, so perhaps I can reciprocate......what's your favorite food group?.
I've given up preparing meals, as I usually can't eat a normal portion, and my partner hates leftovers, so I either have to eat it, or throw it in the compost! It's easier just to make my vegetable soups with tofu and miso, put it in the fridge and have 2 cups every night. I also hide the chocolate, from my partner, AND myself, in the freezer. It bugs my teeth that way, so I am forced to delay gratification as long as possible. lol.0 -
To answer previous questions (hopefully).
I am sure that 1200 is appropriate for me, as I am 57, only 63" high, only exercise lightly, (1 hour, 4x week), due to injury, and have gained on anything over 1500, in the past.
When I was 30, running 3x per week, and eating 0 fat, 0 sugars, and 0 bread products, I could only lose weight (at the ridiculous rate of 6 pounds per month), when under 1200 cal. So it makes sense that now, being 27 years older, I could in no way, exceed that, if I want results. I did mention that my metabolism is verrrrryyyyy slow.......yes?
I need something very simple, and made for only one person, as my partner hates leftovers so I either gotta' eat it or chuck it, which I hate to do. Protein shakes and salads made with greens, beans and seeds, are the only solution I've found........I don't eat whey.......Simple and Epic both have vegan protein shakes, + Amazing grass is truly Amazing.
I get awful sick of these, tho, I must have had millions of them, literally, over my life.....(salads, too)....
So, I guess I should have refined the question........what kind of meal can you make for ONE vegan person, that is in the 400 calorie range? The answer right now, is NONE. Hence the protein shakes. And I DO know that salad is a go-to food for life, unfortunately, if I ate as much as I could eat, of that, I'd not lose weight, believe me, I've tried that!
I was landscaping, cleaning houses, and walking/hiking, 3-4 x per week, (b4 my surgery), and I still could not eat gallons of salad and lose weight......maintain, sure........but lose......ummmm..........nope. I was 165-175 for years. Just could not budge the number........that's when I realized that only SOME people can eat unrestricted salad calories.
As for me, I am descended from Natives......who could run through the woods for hours as scouts hired by the colonialists, eating a single pemmican bar per day, despite the exercise. Sigh.
Anyhow, yea, mostly experience tells me this, and even MPF had reduced my calories to 200 per day, last time I was on here, as I just couldn't budge the weight! That's when I gave up, the last time.Before that, it was Calorie King, who had also reduced my calories to 100 per day. Yea, some peeps just CAN'T lose weight and must decipher other means and ways to get around the blocks/plateaus.
I thought if I could find some simple, easy, quick ways to make meal plans for myself, only, it would be worth asking.........'til that happens, it's protein shakes and veggie soup with tofu, for me.
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You should really be consuming between 2000 cals recommened daily allowance or consume 1900 cals.
1 day = 1900 cal intake of food
Train (exercise) = burn approx 200 cals per say
That day day will total up to 1700 cals overall.
Its healthier to burn into your calorie intake than it is starving yourself.
Hope this makes sense.
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You said your partner doesn't like leftovers, but why can't you eat them? I prep 3-4 meals with 5 servings each on Sundays to eat during the day M-F at work. Dinner I cook for the family each night. Are you using a low-cal dressing on your salads? Salad is one of my go to lunches and I can make a massive one using a whole head of lettuce for 3-400 calories.2
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After losing 30 lbs I stopped eating animal products, and now I go raw on low-calorie days. Usually a smoothie, soaking some oats in water and adding lemon juice, half an apple, broccoli, spinach, some frozen berries, basically any vegetable in the fridge. No processed foods, plenty of protein and a 16 oz smoothie will have around 180 calories and keep me full for 3 hours. Then I take a walk, and make another one when I get home. For the evening meal, I will usually have around 700 calories left over, so can make pretty much anything I want.2
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What you are asking now seems different than your original question. Your original question suggested that 1200 calories was not enough volume of food for meals... a nibble you called it, and now you say you really wanted vegan recipes for one that were 400 calories. Okay.
You might do well having things like beans or lentils or quinoa prepared that you can add to dishes in the amount you need. You can freeze ingredients or buy packaged frozen vegetables.
Make a recipe that serves more than 1 person and freeze it in individual portions.
Eat dinner leftovers for breakfast or lunches.
Scale recipes down so you don't have leftovers.
Potatoes are pretty filling. A baked potato topped with broccoli or chili could be a meal for me.
Oatmeal or farnia can be made for 1 person.
Stir fries would be easy to make small servings of. Just cook the amount of vegetables, tofu, or whatever you want.
Zucchini or squash noodles are low calorie and can be made for 1 person.
Cauliflower rice, mashed cauliflower
Falafel or veggie burgers could be made and extras frozen.
Make different kinds of soups or stews.
https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/lemon-lentil-soup
https://www.lemonandolives.com/fassolatha-greek-bean-soup/
https://www.thespruce.com/most-popular-vegetarian-soup-recipes-3377936
http://allrecipes.com/recipes/16570/everyday-cooking/vegan/soups-and-stews/
400 calorie or less per serving vegan recipes-
http://www.healthyfood.co.uk/40-vegetarian-dinners-400-calories-per-serving/
https://www.self.com/gallery/8-satisfying-grain-bowl-meals-under-400-calories
http://blog.myfitnesspal.com/6-easy-meatless-meals-400-calories/
http://www.cookinglight.com/food/recipe-finder/300-calorie-vegan-recipes#churrasco-style-tofu-steaks-hemp-chimichurri
Meal plans-
http://www.eatingwell.com/article/290194/7-day-vegan-meal-plan-1200-calories/
http://www.pcrm.org/kickstartHome/mealplan/week-1
If money is not an issue maybe try a meal delivery service. I see several that are vegan or offer vegan plans for 1-2 people. You'd have to check with them what the calorie counts are like.5 -
I eat a lot of beans/rice/veggies/fat combinations at about 400 calorie. I will also make a ginormous tofu veggie stir fry and a big batch of rice and eat those leftovers for a few days. I really don’t like salad or raw veggies so for me the key to satisfying meals is prep in advance and throw stuff together as I need it. On Sunday I make a big pot of beans, a batch of rice, cook up some protein (for me, usually chicken breasts but also baked or grilled tofu). I make sure I have avocados on hand. I also bake a couple big sweet potatoes. So when meal time comes I might throw together tofu, kale, sweet potato, rice and a tablespoon of whatever fat I want. Or beans, rice, salsa, avocado. Or tofu, quinoa, pesto, broccoli. Microwave and dinner is served. The combinations are quite varied - I just try to cook up different stuff sundays so I don’t get bored. I feel like there are tons of options for meals, but pre-prep and portions are key.3
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You can make two serving meals and eat the leftovers yourself. One block of tempeh or tofu is easily just two servings in my home. Cook once, eat twice.
How about making larger batches of things that you can freeze in single portions? Vegan chili, spaghetti sauce, beans, and many other things freeze very nicely. Most seitan recipes make a large amount of protein, but it does freeze well, so you can make seitan and then freeze it in smaller portions. I like making these things on weekend days when I'm going to be home, or letting the crock pot do it for me. Cook once, eat...well, a dozen times or more.
Lots of meatless proteins can be cooked in single portions. Lentils are nice because they cook quickly and you can make a small amount of them. Many vegan proteins, like Gardein, come in resealable bags so you can just measure out the amount you want. TVP is cheap and can easily be measured in smaller servings. You can use that as "beef" by rehydrating it with no-beef broth or other liquid of your choice, or just throw it in a dish that has enough liquid to rehydrate it.
There are many vegan protein bars if you like those. My favorites are Clif Builder bars.
Quinoa works fine in small batches in my experience. I've never been able to cook small amounts of rice very easily, but leftover rice is perfect for fried rice. You can make vegan fried rice with tofu instead of eggs.2 -
How accurate is your logging of your calorie intake - do you use a food scale and weigh all your solids? Your description of your stats and even your exercise, which you think is minimal, suggests that you should be able to eat more than 1200 and lose, so my guess is that you already are eating more than that.
Focus on logging accurately, find some foods that you find satiating that fit in your meal plan, and keep your options open for meal prepping and eating leftovers. I don’t understand why the fact that your partner doesn’t like leftovers means you have to pitch all the extra food - that seems wasteful and keeps you having to find additional options.5 -
In my case? Excercise more to give yourself a few more calories to play with.
I also suggest logging for a while, even before making any serious changes to your diet.
Weigh (with a scale is best) everything you eat, and write why you are eating it (i.e, lunchtime, hungry, kind of bored, out with friends, watching tv) and how you are feeling right before, right after and an hour after (hungry, comfortable, normal, full, very full bloated, drowsy).
This gives you a baseline pattern for your normal habits and routine. From there, it's just a matter of experimenting. Are you very full after dinner? Cut back on a few things. Does lunch leave you bloated and gassy after an hour, try less or no mayo, and see if there's something you don't mind dropping each meal (fries, or cheese, or maybe only 2 tacos instead of 3).It's amazing how quickly these small and easily sustainable changes will add up to big calorie cuts. Only cut one or two things at a time, until they become habit instead if trying to do everything at once. That way they become individual habits instead of one big "diet". So when you backslide you won't drop everything at once, just one or two habits, that you can fix again more easily.
I love this entire thought process! I have an internal war between my impatient/frightened thinking and my deeper wisdom that knows I need to make changes that last and are both sustainable and effective.
I think I am going to sit down and make a list of all the small changes I have made already, partly to acknowledge what I've done so far, but I will also rate them according to how hard or easy they have felt to me, so that when I hit my weight loss goal, I know what I can easily keep as maintenance habits and what I can let go of as a harder-to-maintain "diet-phase" restriction.
Thank you, Momepro, for taking the time to share your thinking!
Glad you like itIt's really helped me, I hope it helps you too.
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You didn't say whether or not you like breakfasts, but I try to keep my calories around 1200-1400 and I've found that I just didn't care enough about breakfast to eat much of anything then. Call it intermittent fasting if you like, but it did leave me with more calories for lunch and dinner, meals I do care about. Usually for breakfast now I don't skip it, but have a 50-cal cheese stick, a hardboiled egg, a small yogurt or something like that. Something around 100 cals or under.3
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MonaRaeHill wrote: »I need something very simple, and made for only one person, as my partner hates leftovers so I either gotta' eat it or chuck it, which I hate to do.
As others said, can you not have leftovers for you, at least for some meals? I find having leftovers in the refrigerator a lifesaver when things come up and I don't have time to cook.
Anyway, with 1200 (I did 1250 for a while, also 5'3, I found it not necessary but I get it can be the right goal if you are mostly sedentary), one thing I'd think about is how often you want to eat, especially if you don't enjoy meal planning. It might be easier to do something like 2 larger meals in a day.
Whatever you do, I'd plan how many calories you want to devote to each of your meals (roughly) and then work with that for a while. When I was doing 1250, I think I normally did about 250 at breakfast, 350 at lunch, and then had plenty available for dinner.
Breakfast IS for some an easy place to save calories, but if you like a bigger breakfast (I currently eat more like 400-450 for breakfast), you can go with less at other meals, it's personal preference. Breakfast is also a meal where a lot of people find it easy to just always have the same thing, takes the planning out of it.
My lunches are kind of repetitive too (when I'm not just doing dinner leftovers, which is common for me). I'll do a salad based lunch a lot, with some kind of protein on it (beans, chickpeas, edamame, tofu). Bean and/or veg soup can be easy too, and another thing you can just have pre-made and ready to heat.
Then it's just about dinner.
Have you seen https://www.eatthismuch.com/ -- you can give it your preferences, calorie goal, so on and it will generate food ideas. If you are struggling with what fits in a certain calorie goal for a meal or day and also hits some goals like protein, this could be useful for you.2 -
Rather than three 400 calorie meals, you might try splitting your daily budget in a different way:
Breakfast: 1 cup unsweetened soy milk, 1 cup Quaker Oatmeal Squares, 1/2 cup sliced strawberries (80+210+25=315)
Mid-day Snack: 2 Triscuits, 1 wedge Laughing Cow cheese, 1/2 cup sliced strawberries (40+35+25=100)
Afternoon Snack: Fiber One bar (90)
Dinner: 695 calories to spend
Or, if you do better on a bigger lunch and lighter breakfast, split up the calories that way and make your dinner something light. You don't *have* to have three equal meals in a day.2 -
Finkelstien wrote: »just as MrsPinterest34 i rather loose a little more slowly and eat a bit more. On days where i don't work out i eat around 1450 kcal. Now i am small so i need a little less then most.
B: Banana + proteinyoghurt = 253
L; Three pieces of bread with hummus and jalapeno and some veggies = 417
D : Halloumi and (vegetarian)sausage bake = 523
1200 kcal. So i have 300 left. I usually fill this with some tangerines, a salad or a hand of nuts. Sometimes i go over. Sometimes i stay under. Sometimes i add an egg to my lunch. Sometimes i don't.
On fridaynight i like a glass of wine so i eat two pieces of bread at lunch, drink two glasses of wine and sometimes nibble on a crisp.
Can someone please tell me why in the world this got a woo?! This is a description of a 1500 calorie diet by a shorter woman truing to lose a half pound a week. What in the world?
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Finkelstien wrote: »just as MrsPinterest34 i rather loose a little more slowly and eat a bit more. On days where i don't work out i eat around 1450 kcal. Now i am small so i need a little less then most.
B: Banana + proteinyoghurt = 253
L; Three pieces of bread with hummus and jalapeno and some veggies = 417
D : Halloumi and (vegetarian)sausage bake = 523
1200 kcal. So i have 300 left. I usually fill this with some tangerines, a salad or a hand of nuts. Sometimes i go over. Sometimes i stay under. Sometimes i add an egg to my lunch. Sometimes i don't.
On fridaynight i like a glass of wine so i eat two pieces of bread at lunch, drink two glasses of wine and sometimes nibble on a crisp.
Can someone please tell me why in the world this got a woo?! This is a description of a 1500 calorie diet by a shorter woman truing to lose a half pound a week. What in the world?
It's actually pretty easy to hit a reaction accidentally on mobile. Happens to me all the time. I unmark the ones that I notice, but I'm sure some get away from me. No need to assume the worst.6 -
Mona,
You've said your husband doesn't like leftovers, but that doesn't mean you can't (and kudos for the composting!). I batch cook on the weekend (some of which you don't eat, but you'll get the idea). It saves me a ton of time and helps me not make poor nutritional choices when I'm at work. There's always a tempting treat around.- grilled chicken breast
- quinoa
- biscuits (I use Carb-Quick baking mix and use Smart Balance instead of butter and unsweetened soy milk instead instead of heavy cream
- egg white muffins (egg whites, turkey or gardien sausage, quinoa, shredded cheese)--I like them for breakfast at work.
I also have "staples" for me of protein powders (Women's Best in the UK (they ship worldwide) has a yummy vegan line), protein bars, protein chips, high fiber tortillas, and Kodiak whole grain muffin in a cup, skyr yogurt, among other things.
For work, I throw protein (chicken, tuna, veggie burger, etc.) and frozen veggies and some quinoa in a pyrex and heat it up. Sometimes I add beans. For non-work, I often eat egg whites with veggies, beans, gardein crumbles and/or quinoa. I also tried those konjac "newdles." I was a little scared at first, but they were very filling and were quite tasty with the veggies and garlic olive oil I cooked them in. I workout after work and am short on time when I get home as I want to sleep, too.So dinner is often quick for me. I may not be a great or even a good conventional cook, but I'm a whiz with a micorwave!
I try to prioritize protein as much as possible.
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Hey. Thanks everyone, for all the input. All muchly valued and appreciated!
To answer some more very insightful questions...........
Yes, I DO track very specifically. I DO have a kitchen scale, which I do use. For things that have nutritional labels (like the protein powders), I use the scoop provided (leveled) and take those numbers. I do not lie to myself about intake, not EVER.
So, it's not a question of eating too much, it's a question of my horrible metabolism not cooperating. (Yes, this really does happen.......read on......)
I think I just may have broken it, yo-yo and fat-free dieting over the years. I say that, because I cannot have fat, any kind of fat......not avocados, not coconut, not butter, not not-butter, none, without it causing problems with my goals. That leaves no-fat protein shakes, and no nuts, no seeds, no avocado's, no salad dressings (which I haven't used, in years), etc. Even when I was eating 10-gallon salads, I wasn't using dressing, but rather, that spiced brown rice vinegar, for the dressing.
In short, the ONLY way I have EVER gotten my weight down to a healthy number (145 is it, for me).....was when I was eating a normal size muffin with coffee for breakfast and one protein shake per day, balanced out by having one ten-gallon salad every two or three days. AND, I was cleaning houses, landscaping, and running 3x per week, and I was only 30 years old! That's it. I don't know what that comes to, but it's not 1200 calories, even. When I went back (as an experiment), to add it all up, it was more like 800 calories, 4 days a week, and 1200 for the other three days (the days I ate a ten-gallon salad). That's it. CiCo (Calories IN vs. Calories Out), may work for some, I am proof positive that it most certainly does not work for all!
My original post was about exasperation with this mess I find myself in. That's still the case. My problem isn't only physical (having a basement basal metabolism), it's also emotional. It's far too easy to get discouraged, when my coping skill of working physically, full-tilt, is no longer an option. I don't remember feeling all that hungry when I was moving physically, all of the time. It worked as both a mood stabilizer and as a hunger-control.
I really, really, really miss, having that!
I need to find a way to be okay with eating just enough food to not make me hungry all the time, but also enjoying more then protein shakes! Not only am I hampered by the demands of my disability, (to only be able to exercise for 2 days in a row, then it really wants a 0 day, or it acts up); I am hampered by the slowest metabolism, EVER. I can give it my all, when I DO exercise, and I DO, do that. So, I am not lazy, either. In fact, I probably try to do too much, too soon, on the exercise front. I am really trying to only do 1 hour, each time, right now. If I can build it up, that's great, but I really have to constantly monitor my pain levels. The CBD has helped enormously, in that regard! So, at least I've got that, this time around.
It still isn't enough.
After weeks (and/or months) of protein shakes, and an occasional salad, every 2nd or 3rd day ((to budge even a couple of pounds), I feel so deprived and irritable, that I tend to get completely exasperated.
MFP, Fitbit, and every one of the other things I've tried (Calorie King, early on), don't help when I don't lose, and they drop me down to NO calories.
Can you think of anything more discouraging?
Everybody is like CiCo will work, over time! Um, no, it only works for SOME, not all. Seriously. I do not lie.
I read the book written by Oprah's Coach, and how hard it was for her to lose weight. I am in the same boat. Not everyone is able to do this. Some (many) of us, have our DNA working against us, in very profound ways. All the schedules, plans, charts and recommendations, do not deal with this, which is why I get so exasperated!
So, my original post is still my post, here at the end of this thread..........
What other things should I do, that I am not currently doing, this time around? Is there anything? All of the suggestions are good, and I will definitely follow some of those links (great info, so thanks for that!), but I am still looking for coping skills for the times when I go nowhere, and the plateaus last for months...........sigh.10 -
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P.S.
Yes, money is an issue, then there's all the running around shopping, and then standing for long periods to cook it all up.
I've thought very often, about the meal delivery option........when I get out of credit card debt, I may just try one, but living on a limited budget, it may not be an option, then, either. I just don't know. But, that's long term planning, for the short term.........gah!
I meant what I said, I not only need the dog walker to spell me on that front, (for my mid-week 0 day), but I need an on-board chef, too!
Alas, there's the $, so protein shakes and a ten-gallon salad every 2nd or 3rd day, is my only short-term solution.......until I can (or ya'll can), come with some other options.
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Sorry but I definitely don’t buy Oprah’s coach’s excuses for her not losing weight. Her different food obsessions (“BREAD!”) and fad diets have prevented any kind of consistency that would have led her to be able to maintain a loss.
I know you don’t want to hear it and I understand you have some limitations:restrictions/issues, but getting your mind right is the first step. Why not try some of the suggestions you’ve been given for just a week (consistently) and see where it leads you? Being a martyr (eating only salads, etc) isn’t going to get you anywhere. You can eat what you were eating when you gained, just less of it. If your partner won’t help, then just do it for yourself. I don’t mean to be harsh, but I do get frustrated when people are given such great advice and don’t want to have an open mind and see where it might lead. FWIW- I’m almost 60 and have lost 95 lbs using MFP as designed. It took 3 years (referencing your comment that 6 lbs a month was slow) and that’s totally OK. You have to look at the big picture & play the long game when it comes to weight loss and maintaining a healthy weight and attitude. Good Luck Mona12
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