57 Year old wanting to bulk
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Better to use a tape measure. Jeans sizes are very unreliable. First, they're cut to sit well below your true waist; and second they're not consistent. I'm reasonably sure that Levi's jeans are at least 2 inches larger than they were 30 years ago for the same waist size on the label.0
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Yes I did today 36 but thank you0
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Hi I am kind of in the same situation but I am 48. Ok this is what is working for me, you can try it but no garantee as we are all different. I upped my intake to bulk up to around 3000 calories including protein shakes. My fat intake is pretty low and I dont even look at sugars. I eat in a five hour window so yes IF I eat from 12 to 5 but I also workout and do cardio and treadmill so 3 times a day as I have the time. I workout my abs every day some days more some less but everyday. I also cycle my carb intake to match with my workouts as the more intense the more carbs. On rest days my carbs are very low but protein always the same up there. Basically I burn a lot of calories so you need to balance it out. Thats a little info for you to read that works for me as the older we get the harder it is for belly fat to go away. Its not impossible but just harder than when we were in our 20s. Goodluck my friend and remember that with no pain theres no gain!6
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Also forgot to say I eat super clean, no spice boiled chicken breast boiled white fish green veggies and all that stuff so dont just try to eat calories you have to consider that too.8
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It's not that your fat intake is too high - it's your calories that are too high.
As a fellow 57yo would agree with the above posters that bulking is a poor choice. At our age our ability to gain muscle has slowed to a crawl compared to our younger selves and the vast majority of a calorie surplus will end up as fat - unfortunately we still have the same ability to get fat as we did as a youngster!
If you priority was aesthetics I would say a very small calorie deficit but as you state your goal is to add muscle then eat at maintenance.1 -
Maintenance calories. Or go see your doctor ask for some testosterone bud, no problem6
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Johnnyd Thats is a lot of cardio. good work. I am going to start wind sprints a couple days a week0
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sijomial Thanks for the insight. I will work on lowering my calories.
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GymTennis
Been thinking about have the ole T checked as well. Getting my calories down seem the be the answer. Thx
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GymTennis
Been thinking about have the ole T checked as well. Getting my calories down seem the be the answer. Thx
Don't forget one little thing: TRT isn't something you go on for a while and then go off of. Once you start TRT, you do it for life. Taking exogenous T suppresses endogenous T production, so if you ever quit TRT, your T levels will tank like they've never tanked before.
I think discussing it in any more depth than that is probably beyond the scope of MFP discussions. TRT is not illicit, but the rabbit hole isn't far from there.2 -
Johnnyd Thats is a lot of cardio. good work. I am going to start wind sprints a couple days a week
Sprinting isn't something some just wants to start doing, especially a 57 year old desk jockey. High risk of injury. Nice article on how to work into sprinting:
https://ericcressey.com/so-you-want-to-start-sprinting
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AnvilHead
Yes definitly somehing you just do. Have to weigh the pros and cons. I discussed this with my primary Dr couple years ago and was told the T thing is overrated. It probably still wouldnt hurt to at least have it checked.0 -
Packerjohn
Yes For probably most people I would have to agree. I am not saying I would go full out at the beginning but I am still in realtively good shape. I was doing hill sprints last year 3 days a week for 45 minutes and I did reap some benfits. I also hiked 33 miles in the grand canyon 2 years ago in 2 days with out any training and it wasnt too bad. It was suppose to be a rim 2 rim but the some beers got in the way LOL.0 -
GymTennis
Been thinking about have the ole T checked as well. Getting my calories down seem the be the answer. Thx
Don't forget one little thing: TRT isn't something you go on for a while and then go off of. Once you start TRT, you do it for life. Taking exogenous T suppresses endogenous T production, so if you ever quit TRT, your T levels will tank like they've never tanked before.
I think discussing it in any more depth than that is probably beyond the scope of MFP discussions. TRT is not illicit, but the rabbit hole isn't far from there.
Yes, I would hope you'd see an actual endocrinologist for this rather than some "men's clinic" that makes its money selling boner pills and T scripts. T levels are supposed to be decreasing at our age. If they're clinically low as indicated by standard reference ranges, fine. But don't rush into T therapy just because your levels are low for a 20 year old.2 -
ccsernica
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Maintenance calories. Or go see your doctor ask for some testosterone bud, no problem
You don't go to your doctor and ask for some T like you'd ask your mom for extra mashed potatoes at Thanksgiving. As mentioned above if one is clinically deficient, it can be life changing. However, it's incredibly stupid to take as an alternative to modifying one's diet, exercising, etc.3 -
Packerjohn I agree with you. I dont even take an Aleve unless its obsolutely necessary.2
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Packerjohn wrote: »Maintenance calories. Or go see your doctor ask for some testosterone bud, no problem
You don't go to your doctor and ask for some T like you'd ask your mom for extra mashed potatoes at Thanksgiving. As mentioned above if one is clinically deficient, it can be life changing. However, it's incredibly stupid to take as an alternative to modifying one's diet, exercising, etc.
I think you took his comment too literal.0 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Maintenance calories. Or go see your doctor ask for some testosterone bud, no problem
You don't go to your doctor and ask for some T like you'd ask your mom for extra mashed potatoes at Thanksgiving. As mentioned above if one is clinically deficient, it can be life changing. However, it's incredibly stupid to take as an alternative to modifying one's diet, exercising, etc.
I think you took his comment too literal.
I may have (and apologize if I did), but as someone else has mentioned, there are all kinds of borderline T-therapy "clinics" out there.1 -
I'll give you my experience as a fellow "old guy". I'm 51 and tried a bulk three years ago at 48. I was in good lifting shape and wanted to improve my body fat composition without going lower in weight. I ended up adding about a pound a week for 16 weeks and followed a progressive overload program. The bulk part was a blast. I loved eating those extra calories and loved getting monster strong week over week ( monster strong for me compared to where I was before the bulk).
My problem was I developed really bad tendonitis in my bicep and shoulder toward the end of the bulk. By the time I started the cut I was both burned out mentally and it was to painful to keep lifting effectively. I ended up taking six months off from exercising to let things heal and mentally re-charge. By the time I went back I was 25 pounds heavier than when I started the bulk and I'd say practilly none of that was muscle after six months of inactivity. I took it off slowly over the next year and worked myself back into shape. At least in my case my body wasn't equipped to handle a bulk at that age.0
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