Live and gallbladder cleanse
Pixieofmidnight
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It has been recommended for me to try a liver gallbladder cleanse. It consists of apple juice, olive oil Epsom salts and grapefruit. Drink it at night. Lay on your side and stones pass. Have you tried it? Please only comment if you have tried it or have something to back up your opinion. I am going to try it in a couple days so will probably follow up here too
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Cleanses are all bull. But you seem to have made up your mind, so...9
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Are you disclaiming antioxidants too? Whole food cleanses are not bull. High fiber lean proteins and low fat diets to cleanse the system from months of bad eating. Is that bull too? Perhaps I should have been more specific. I think it is considered a flush. Liver gallbladder flush31
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Make an appointment with your Dr. instead.
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What exactly is the reason this cleanse has been recommended?
Do you have any gallstone specific symptoms?
If so, I'd say: Go with the recommendation of the Mayo Clinic
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gallstones/expert-answers/gallbladder-cleanse/faq-20058134
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Thank you for an informed response0
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cherishrussel wrote: »It has been recommended for me to try a liver gallbladder cleanse. It consists of apple juice, olive oil Epsom salts and grapefruit. Drink it at night. Lay on your side and stones pass. Have you tried it? Please only comment if you have tried it or have something to back up your opinion. I am going to try it in a couple days so will probably follow up here too
recommended by your doctor?4 -
This is totally BS. You will not pass stones--what happens with this process is saponification. The ingredients coalesce into soft globs--stones are hard--that the scammers claim are gallstones.
https://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/flushes.html13 -
Your liver cleanses your body naturally, there's no need to cleanse that. Also, if you have gallstones, please go see your doctor before trying to make them pass with some "cleanse"1
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Sounds like a recipe for diarrhea.5
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cherishrussel wrote: »
Direct quote from the article you linked to:
Gallbladder Flush
A gallbladder flush (also called a liver flush)
is a folk remedy that is said to promote the passage of
gallstones.68,69 Several different versions are used. One
method is to fast for 12 hours and then, beginning at
7 p.m., ingest four tablespoons of olive oil followed by
one tablespoon of lemon juice every 15 minutes for a
total of eight treatment cycles. Another method is to
consume only apple juice and vegetable juice (no food)
during the day until 5-6 p.m., and then ingest 18 mL of
olive oil followed by 9 mL of fresh lemon juice every 15
minutes until eight ounces of oil have been consumed.
Some practitioners use Cascara sagrada and garlic/castile
enemas in combination with the olive oil and lemon
juice treatment. According to published and anecdotal
reports, patients often experience diarrhea and abdominal
pain from this treatment, and by the next morning
they typically pass multiple soft green or brown spheroids
that have been presumed to be gallstones.
However, in most cases these spheroids were
not subjected to chemical analysis and the patients did
not undergo follow-up evaluations to document they no
longer had gallstones. Analysis of one group of passed
“gallstones” revealed they consisted of 75-percent fatty
acids and contained no cholesterol, bilirubin, or calcium.
Further experimentation suggested the spheroids
were “soap stones,” created by the interaction of digestive
enzymes with certain components of olive oil and
lemon juice.70 Analysis of another spheroid passed after
a gallbladder flush revealed it was not a gallstone.71
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cherishrussel wrote: »It has been recommended for me to try a liver gallbladder cleanse. It consists of apple juice, olive oil Epsom salts and grapefruit. Drink it at night. Lay on your side and stones pass. Have you tried it? Please only comment if you have tried it or have something to back up your opinion. I am going to try it in a couple days so will probably follow up here too
Recommended by who? Is your doctor asking you to do this? Are you having gallbladder attacks? I had mine out but if your doctor is suggesting this kind of nonsense cleanse I would find a new one, especially if the attacks are becoming severe. Gallbladder disease is nothing to fool around with.1 -
Have you seen a GI dr?0
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cherishrussel wrote: »
When reading items on the internet it is important to consider the source. The link above yours is from the Mayo clinic.
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That site is trying to sell you detox kits, along with a bunch of other really overpriced supplements. It’s always a good idea to try to figure out whether someone is trying to sell you something before you take their advice.cherishrussel wrote: »
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Your organs do an excellent job of cleansing themselves without the help of fad food and drink. Treat your liver well by not drinking a lot of alcohol. Enjoy a balanced, nutritious diet to keep your organs chugging away.
If you do have a problem with your organs or gallstones, I'd recommend seeing a doctor. If gallstones are truly a problem, you may need to have your gallbladder removed.4 -
Having been one that has had serious issues with gallstones in my past (gallbladder removed in 2007), one of the things my thoracic surgeon told me right at the very start was to NOT do anything that I might find on the internet that was listed as a "cure/flush" for gallstones as it could cause more harm than good.9
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To me the Epsom Salt dose is most concerning.
https://www.everydayhealth.com/drugs/magnesium-sulfate
Don’t get too far from the toilet.2 -
To me the Epsom Salt dose is most concerning.
https://www.everydayhealth.com/drugs/magnesium-sulfate
Don’t get too far from the toilet.
Exactly. Not sure why anyone would willingly drink epsom salts unless they have a veey serious medical issue. Even then there are much better purgatives available.0 -
Thank you all for your insights. It has encouraged me to reconsider. As for a Dr, appointment is pushed out until late March. The article I found on google scholar was the first thing that had me reconsider. Gallstones?I had them when I was pregnant and many of the same symptoms are recurring. I have also reached approximately the same weight too.4
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recommended by your doctor?[/quote]
Recommended by my chiropractor
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Recommended by my chiropractorcherishrussel wrote: »
recommended by your doctor?
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You go to a chiropractor for liver and gallbladder issues? A much better choice would be a Gastroenterologist or even a GP7 -
singingflutelady wrote: »
Recommended by my chiropractorcherishrussel wrote: »
recommended by your doctor?
You go to a chiropractor for liver and gallbladder issues? A much better choice would be a Gastroenterologist or even a GP[/quote]
I swear that most Chiro's are complete quacks.4 -
Ah that explains it. Chiropractor qualification is very broad all the way from quack to miracle worker. You can never be sure what you are going to get.
If you are having gall bladder symptoms make sure you are eating at least the minimum calories daily with LOTS of water, limit fats, and eat on a schedule. Take care how much you eat at each sitting.4 -
Who recommends such dangerous stuff? Are they perhaps your beneficiary?4
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cherishrussel wrote: »Thank you all for your insights. It has encouraged me to reconsider. As for a Dr, appointment is pushed out until late March. The article I found on google scholar was the first thing that had me reconsider. Gallstones?I had them when I was pregnant and many of the same symptoms are recurring. I have also reached approximately the same weight too.
I had to wait awhile as well and in the time you wait there are things you can avoid to help reduce flare ups.
Avoid high fat anything (all dairy was a killer for me), cucumbers, radishes (weird enzyme trigger), caffeinated beverages. By the end, I was living on poached chicken and clear broths and rice. Did wonders for my waistline, not so much for the tastebuds, but at least I wasn't in pain.
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This is totally BS. You will not pass stones--what happens with this process is saponification. The ingredients coalesce into soft globs--stones are hard--that the scammers claim are gallstones.
https://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/flushes.html
Is it good soap?
I used to dabble in soap making and this does look like saponification materials but I really never though about how it might work in the body like that due to the gastric juices. Looks like I have some interesting research here.
ETA: just saw another reply and it looks like those are soap pellets alright.2 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »cherishrussel wrote: »
Recommended by my chiropractor
You go to a chiropractor for liver and gallbladder issues? A much better choice would be a Gastroenterologist or even a GP
I swear that most Chiro's are complete quacks.
Yeah, for sure. I've gone to a sports chiropractor when my back and shoulders get especially knotty (thankfully not since I started stretching daily, knock on wood), and I know people who've had good luck with pregnancy-related aches and pains. But any chiropractor willing to treat your liver issue is not a chiropractor you should be giving money to.5
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