Anyone Else "Overweight" on the BMI Chart but Healthy, Active, Happy and not Really "Overweight"
jillstreett
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I struggle with the BMI Chart on a regular basis. It has given me some goals of where I want to be but it also has shown me that it's probably not for everyone. I am aware of the vast amount of factors it does not account for. I am 5'6" and have 12 more pounds to lose to be at my goal weight of 165 (for a total loss of 30 pounds.) I realize that 165 is above the top of the "Normal" range on the BMI Chart by 11 pounds. BUT the only time that I was in the middle to the top of the "Normal" weight category I was dancing 8.5 hours a week for my Dance major in college, walking upwards of 2 miles with a heavy backpack all around campus 5 days a week, bartending/ waiting tables 4 days a week, walking my dog everyday and overall, super active. I simply am not in college any more. I do not believe (although I will try) that my body will be happy at 154 (top of "Normal" range) nor do I feel the need to be that weight. I am very active now, walking my dog everyday, dancing intense cardio and weight toning classes 4 times a week for a total of anywhere from 4.5 to 6 hours a week. I am doing all the necessary steps: cutting calories, getting in cardio and weights, etc. and the weight is coming off and I genuinely think that 165 is going to be fine and super healthy for my PEAR shape (big note there.) So my long winded question is? Anyone feel great and know you are healthy but you are "Overweight" on the BMI Chart? What's your take on it? I don't want it to seem like I'm fine with being "Overweight" but to me with my height and body shape, food choices and activity level, I'm not "Overweight!"
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My current goal weight is just inside a healthy BMI, but if I get within a dozen pounds and feel happy there, I won't think twice about it. I think of BMI as one of several helpful indications of health. Like any sort of broad guideline, it's going to be useful for most people, but that doesn't mean that it's the only indicator that matters, or that your only options are "healthy" and "unhealthy." In addition to BMI, I think it's worth considering waist-to-height ratio, daily exercise, lab results (ie. cholesterol, sodium, etc), balanced diet, and mental health. If you're doing pretty well or working on improving each of those, I think you're doing pretty good even if you don't hit all of your targets right on the nose.11
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My first goal was at the top of BMI (also a 5-6.5” pear) and I looked good. At that point I could see my thighs slimming down and shot for 150. Then 135 and now, the lower end of BMI at 120. The chart is a guide, but stop when you feel good and are happy with the way you look.9
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BMI isn't perfect by any means, more of just a guideline. If you feel great, I wouldn't worry about trying to strike the middle of of the "Healthy" BMI for your height and sex.
On the other hand, don't sell yourself short if you think you cannot physically get to a "Healthy BMI". Everyone is capable of losing more weight if they have the determination and persistence to do it. It all comes down to calories in, calories out and accuracy is key. Being "super active" is not enough.
I'm personally 5'7" and my starting weight was 165lbs and I felt huge. I'm currently at 140lbs with an ultimate goal of 130lbs. I'm also a pear shape. Everybody (and every body) is different!7 -
I don’t see how BMI matters if you’re happy and healthy, but I don’t agree with the kind of logic that your body won’t be happy at X weight or X weight isn’t realistically achievable for you. I’m reaching towards my goal of 112 and all I do for exercise is 40mins of daily walking to work and 10/15mins of weights. If you want X weight you can have it, if you’re happy where you’re at that’s cool too - just dont convince yourself that barriers exist where they don’t.22
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I'm barely almost 5' and my ultimate goal weight is 145, but that will only get me into the middle of the 'overweight' BMI category. I believe I will perfectly fine with that. I've been eating 1200 plus exercise since August. To maintain 145 at my height would give me 1400 calories, so to lose .5# a week, I'd have to eat 1150 calories. I've no desire to eat under 1200 calories for the rest of my life just to get in a BMI normal range chart. No Thank You. When I reach 145, I will go into maintenance and exercise. If I lose at that point I lose, if I don't, I don't. But I'm putting the cart before the horse. First I have to get to 145...19
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I'm six pounds to my first goal, which is still considered overweight. I've reached that goal before and plan to continue in 10 pound increments until I'm satisfied. I think I would be satisfied at the top of a normal BMI range. I'm about 17 pounds "overweight" in this photo. I've been strength training for two years. BMI is a small part of the whole picture. It comes down to how you feel and what you're happy with.
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I know that when you get close to your goal, it's really tempting to stop. Weight loss happens REALLY slowly at that point and it's very easy to think that your body is just "happy" where it is. That isn't true. Your body does not have a particular point at which it's impossible to lose more weight, though there are many myths about a "set point" that your body "doesn't want" to go below. Your body is not "happy" at one weight and "unhappy" at another weight.
If YOU, however, are happy at your current weight, then that's an entirely different story. Do you like your body right now? Do you like what it's able to do? Do you like the way it looks? Would you like it more if you lost more weight? Do you have health concerns that might be helped if you lost more weight? If you can answer yes to the first three and no to the second two, then maybe that means you're happy now.
If YOU are happy now, then that's a great reason to stop. You can always go into maintenance now, see how you feel, and re-evaluate if needed.11 -
I’m 5’ 6.5” and my BMI is 23.24, but my BF% is 22.40. I have a small frame and a banana shape and weigh 144lbs. BMI chart says I should be 118lbs wth my frame size. And I call BS because I would look ghastly at that weight. In fact me drop dead skinny at 20 years old—without an ounce of fat—weighed 126lbs. So this is my long way of saying I don’t trust BMI, or even the scale really. I much prefer tracking via measurements and BF. My goal is to hit 21%BF (139lbs) Have you ever seen the My Body Gallery website? It’s worth a look because you’ll see how different women with the same stats look. If you feel great I say ignore the BMI.16
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DomesticKat wrote: »I'm six pounds to my first goal, which is still considered overweight. I've reached that goal before and plan to continue in 10 pound increments until I'm satisfied. I think I would be satisfied at the top of a normal BMI range. I'm about 17 pounds "overweight" in this photo. I've been strength training for two years. BMI is a small part of the whole picture. It comes down to how you feel and what you're happy with.
...and you look fabulous! Strong and healthy!16 -
I agree and appreciate everything you all are saying. Honestly, I weighed in at 176.2 this morning and I feel like a million dollars and look so much better in my eyes than I did when I started at 195. I do want to clear it up that I have ZERO intentions of giving up or losing faith in the slow process that is weight loss and lifestyle change. I have goals. I will achieve them...that's just how I am as a determined motivated person. And yes, I do agree that if I wanted to be in the "Normal" range then yes, I could get there no matter the length of time it took. I just don't know that I want/ need to be 154 or below (and embark on the maintenance that comes with it) to feel good and healthy. If I already feel great at 176.2 lol, then I can imagine 165 is gonna be so sweet. So you know back to how I think the BMI chart is flawed in part and how it makes others feel?? And how you set goals and become comfortable with being "Overweight" on that (stupid) chart?? Y'all have given me good insight so far!11
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Being pear shape, you're less likely to run into weight related health problems. I'd say go for it. My goal weight is in the overweight category too for several reasons, because I like the "plump" look (so I will basically be both overweight and a bit overfat), and because it would be easier to maintain than a lower weight. The only reason I would personally consider losing more weight is if my body decides my maintenance weight is no longer enough to control blood sugar (I had blood sugar problems at my highest weight).
Realistically, the healthiest weight for you is the lowest weight you can maintain reasonably comfortably provided it's not underweight. You'll need to understand and accept that statistically you may be at a slightly higher risk than someone who is pear shaped but weighs less, but there's statistics and there's real life. A statistical possibility doesn't always translate as expected, and in many cases a slight increase in statistical risk is acceptable and even desirable, this is one of them.11 -
" Realistically, the healthiest weight for you is the lowest weight you can maintain reasonably comfortably provided it's not underweight. "
Exactly... no need to go crazy with calories and worry just to maintain something that is difficult if I feel great and look how I prefer to look just a few pounds heavier. Track and maintain healthy habits- yes, worry - no.
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Technically 15 lbs over "healthy" BMI. So "Overweight" around 25% bf so a little high but I'm good here. I get 12-15k steps a day (walk my breaks during work because I have too much energy) walk my dogs after work, strength train 3-4 times a week, hikes on the weekends. I get to eat enough that I'm happy. As a person that loves food that's important to me.
I'm happy here. I like the things my body at this size can do. I'm strong and active and the chart means nothing to me. I've discussed it with my dr. and she agrees that I'm good where I am. Labs are good, except that I have inherited my mothers low blood pressure, I feel good. So I'ma stay here.
I'd also like to add that I've had people on here tell me that I'm too overweight to give advice, which was condescending and rude, but was eye opening to me in that I didn't care what they said. I don't care if someone wants to use an arbitrary chart from the 19th century that takes into account nothing except my height and weight. How tall I am and my weight don't define me. As long as a person is healthy and comfortable in their skin they can do what they want.
I like me and that's what matters.17 -
It seems like most of the posters in this thread are women and I'm a man so my experience may be a bit different, but I've also found that I prefer to keep my weight a little bit above "trim." According to BMI I'm not overweight, but I can tell that if I cut down to 155 (currently 165) I would look very lean.
However, I don't really want to, because I've noticed that every time I've managed to cut down to under 160, my strength really starts to wane. I never noticed my squat max decrease except when I cut under 160.
So frankly I'm just going to keep bulk/cut cycling until I look leaner at 165. If I don't look quite as lean now, so be it.7 -
Although I've been striving to hit that magic number of "normal" weight BMI, I'm pretty darn happy where I'm at (which is about 5 pounds above the high end). Healthy, happy, active and strong. Could I lose that 5 or even 10? Of course! If I decide I want to push myself a little harder, then I will and I'll still be healthy and happy just a few pounds lighter. We are all so driven by what we have been told is "normal" when that can be different for everyone.
I've looked at a lot of weight and charts over the years and previously thought I had to be within "whatever" range the chart dictated in order to be healthy. Not true at all. There are many health factors besides weight including blood pressure, body fat %, cholesterol, blood sugar, etc.
The origins of weight and BMI charts are quite interesting, but rarely do people even question them. The concept of BMI - a simple ratio of weight in relation to height, was the work of a Belgian statistician and sociologist, Adolphe Quetelet who published his "Quetelet Index" in 1832. Apparently, Quetelet had no real interest in studying obesity when he developed this index, he just wanted to publish his work. It's doubtful there were many obese people in 1832 anyway. So basically, BMI is derived from a simple math formula that has been used to give an idea about whether people are overweight or underweight for over 150 years. I ask myself - what was the concept of overweight in 1832? Likely far different than now due to many life factors, especially nutrition. BMI is a very simple equation - dividing weight in kilograms (kg) by height in meters squared. Seems a bit too simple to hang your hat on for definitive numbers that would apply to everyone.
As far as the weight charts that we have seen since childhood - the first standard one was developed by Metropolitan Life Insurance company in 1943 using calculations to determine life expectancy of various heights and weights of people (adding 3 pounds for clothing and in 1 inch heels ). Basically, the mortality rate was lower for people who weighed withing a "range" so it became the standard by which they provided insurance to people. It's been updated a bit since then but I don't believe it's possible to have a one-size-fits-all chart when it comes to weight.
Sorry for the long post, but I'm a real advocate for finding your own sweet spot and not relying on published guidelines.7 -
I know that for me I thought normal bmi would be insane. I figured I would get to close to normal and see. Well as I got closer to normal bum I figured out my view had been kinda messed up. I would look better and be healthier with a bit less belly and thigh fat. I kept going. I am now 5 lbs into normal bmi 169. I know my high school weight was 138 which is at the low end of normal for my height and I kinda still view that as undoable . But i now really fit size 10 or 12. I would like that to be size 8 or 10 depending on brand.
So I suggest for you the plan I am doing. Meet a goal , do happy dance, then see if this final goal or should you set new goal.5 -
I got about 10 lbs above the top healthy weight for my height and I felt really good. If I had to live my life at that weight it wasn't bad. That kind of thinking fizzled my motivation.
I know It is not impossible for me to lose more and that I would not have to do crazy things to maintain a lower weight. I've come a long way and made many improvements so I don't really want to settle for being overweight.1 -
I don't think that 12 lbs will make any difference whatsoever in your health, so I wouldn't even worry about it.4
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I don't think that 12 lbs will make any difference whatsoever in your health, so I wouldn't even worry about it.
I was only 15 pounds above normal when I started on MFP, active and happy but had hypertension at age 40. Losing 20 pounds reversed it...so getting into the normal range can greatly improve your health.13 -
No offense, but to me your post is just listing excuses why you can't get to the "normal" weight range and asking for validation from others if is okay to be at a higher weight.
Only you know will know if 165 is a good weight for you if you get there. I'd say, get there and assess.
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Not sure why I got the dreaded "woo" for my post. The origins of BMI and the insurance company weight charts are pretty well documented. The interesting thing is that so many people have used them as the standard for so many years. There's always room for improvement in any statistics. Data in, analyze, data out, conclusions.
Bottom line (and the point of my post) is you can be healthy and happy and not fit into a little box someone called "normal".19 -
I just hit a healthy BMI, like I'm 1lb in lol but I'm totally happy at my weight right now even if a 1lb gain puts me back into "overweight". I want to lose another 10lbs but honestly I don't really care how long it takes me now. I've upped my calories and I'll get there eventually. After losing 90lbs I'm perfectly fine staying this size forever.10
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OP is also getting wooed for paying me a compliment. That's cool.12
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I’m technically overweight by 11 pounds right now however I’m living the healthiest life style I have yet and I don’t look super big or anything, it’s weird like that.3
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Being overweight doesn’t really effect health risks much, when you hit the obese category is when you should be concerned.
BMI is just a fast and easy ballpark figure. Have you done the waist to hip ratio?
https://www.healthline.com/health/waist-to-hip-ratio16 -
I’m 5’6 as well and don’t really care about BMI, it classifies me as overweight because of the muscle I have. Not too worried about it. I’m more concerned about keeping a fairly low body fat percentage.10
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BMI charts are useless for those who have a muscular build like most athletes21
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PowerliftingMom wrote: »BMI charts are useless for those who have a muscular build like most athletes
Athletes like runners, cyclists, basketball players, baseball players, tennis players, hockey players, soccer players, speed skaters, swimmers, skiiers, sprinters, gymnasts, surfers and/or martial artists?
Or do you mean athletes in very specific sports with very specific demands which make muscle mass and/or overall mass advantageous, such as powerlifting, bodybuilding or football (specifically, certain positional players such as linemen/linebackers)?
Also worth noting that the latter sports have much higher incidences of AAS/PED usage, which can drive muscle mass beyond genetic potential.26 -
For me at least BMI seems to accurately represent my health and fitness level. When I was morbidly obese I got tired just walking normally. Then I lost enough weight to be just regular obese and could walk for miles but had difficultly running. When I hit overweight I could run much better, but I could also tell that running would be much easier at a lower weight. Now I am at the high end of normal weight and can do most things easily, but there are some more intense fitness related activities like jumping and acrobatics and pull-ups which would greatly benefit if I lost about fifteen more pounds, which would put me at close to ideal weight. In college I had an underweight BMI and was constantly run down and anemic. Everyone is different but in my case the chart is spot on.
I also note that when I first lost enough weight to get down to just overweight and no longer obese, I thought I looked great. I would admire myself in the mirror and think I was mostly finished with my weight loss journey. But then I would see photographs of me taken with other people and I looked fat in them. I blamed the camera. But now that I am normal weight, suddenly I look normal weight in photos and surprise, the ones taken when I was overweight, I still look overweight, because I was overweight then, I just had trouble seeing it. It just took a while for my perception to adjust to my new reality. You may discover something similar when you have been at your current weight for a while.29 -
rheddmobile wrote: »I also note that when I first lost enough weight to get down to just overweight and no longer obese, I thought I looked great. I would admire myself in the mirror and think I was mostly finished with my weight loss journey. [...] But now that I am normal weight, suddenly I look normal weight in photos and surprise, the ones taken when I was overweight, I still look overweight, because I was overweight then, I just had trouble seeing it. It just took a while for my perception to adjust to my new reality. You may discover something similar when you have been at your current weight for a while.
+1 in that perception takes quite a while to match reality... even if the weight loss is within conservative deficit parameters.12
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