Who else get weary of it all..............
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Yes, yes, and yes. Every now and then I get so tired of tracking everything and having to be so conscious of food. When I get to that point, I will take two days off and just play pretend, meaning I just do whatever, with no cares. BUT, I have to be extremely careful that it's only two days, and not a week, or a month, or a year. I used to be bad at that, but have gotten much better. And those times of being sick of it all happen less and less often.4
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Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »Mr_Healthy_Habits wrote: »As time goes by, you'll want those things less and less...
These days it's much more difficult for me to take a rest day then it is to kill myself in the gym for an hour+
It's much more difficult to go to a restaurant and order a cheeseburger than to order a salmon salad...
I'm getting better at not demanding so much from my body though, and getting older..
And I've probably ordered a cheeseburger from a restaurant twice in the last year, neither one was really all that enjoyable
I totally disagree there. That's why people gain the weight back... it doesn't necessarily go away. I joined MFP 5 years ago, and I still want to spend some days sitting on my couch watching TV (and I did, last week, because we had 9 inches of snow outside and my legs were too sore to get on the treadmill). I still want to order dessert when we eat out and to have a nice comforting meal of cheeseburger and fries (which I ordered on Saturday, but it WAS disappointing, but probably because it was from a pizza place).
Sure, in the Spring/Fall when it's nice out, I love going outside and be active, and really dislike spending the whole day stuck at home, but that's just not always the case. I do have a dog too, but my lack of desire to walk around piles of snow in the cold has kept me from walking her much this week too (to be fair, she barks at everything and it's not exactly relaxing either).
The only difference is that I do feel guilty when I get a rest day or go over my calories (which has been too often as well - thanks PMS and my mom bringing way too much chocolate). I could NEVER eat what I want and maintain easily, unless I walked 25k steps a day, and unfortunately my legs tend to get sore way before that nowadays.
People gain the weight back because they lost it for all the wrong reasons to begin with...
If you only "dieted" because you wanted to lose weight, rather than changed your habits because you wanted to become healthier...
Then yeah, you're probably going to struggle with your diet and exercise and may gain weight back...
I believe part of the reason why I was able to keep the weight of for so many years now is because, I started eating a healthy diet because I wanted to, not because I felt I had to...
This is not some sort of a gimmick that I've seen on TV, or some trendy diet... It's the person I've become
And it's all in your head my friend... Sure I can say I'd rather sit around and eat chocolate cake all day, and I would be right, but I choose to say I want to eat healthy today and workout, and you know what... I'm still right
How do you know?
Just because you've managed to stick to your new habits (how long were you overweight for? how overweight were you? all those things DO make a difference) doesn't mean that most people don't.
It kills me that so many people gain the weight, I'm not trying to sit on a high horse and finger wag... That's not what I'm about.
But I'm sorry, if you go on some type of fad/crash diet to lose weight... Rather than do this because you want to turn your life around... I'm still rooting for you, but with a 98% failure rate, I'm not going to bet the farm on you...
What I'm trying to say here is there is no feeling sorry for myself because I can't ear chocolate cake every day... There is only peace and learning to appreciate what makes me healthy every day...
As for my weight loss, it doesn't matter because I'm not everyone, but you started your post by saying that my line of thinking was why people gain weight back... And I'm sorry, but you're wrong, otherwise I might have
I would have to agree and disagree. I lost much of my weight the "unhealthy" way. I did not eat enough and exercised wayyyy toooo much. I had been over weight/obese my entire life. I made so called healthy changes as far as exercise, but became nearly afraid of all "unclean" food. I did not learn about certain proper nutritional aspects until about 9 months ago. Basically when I started maintainance. Now I lost started losing weight for myself and my now ex-wife, but a year into it we divorced. The rest was for me. I now make so called healthier choices with some flexibility, but I think there is more to it than that. Bf set point on me is really high, so keeping it off is going to be much more of a fight than some. Franci is right, some of us that were heavier longer will have to fight harder. Is 98% failure right? I sure hope not. From my reading, it's more like 65%. I do wonder if it's a change back to old habits, or biology. I tend to think it's both. As far as being weary of my newer lifestyle, some days it's hard to watch the people around me just eat what they want without thinking about the macro splits, but on those days, I look at an old picture of myself and remember what it is like to be a prisoner in my own body. Usually that enough to get my "kitten" in gear and keep moving. I have heard it gets easier over time. I do hope so.
You're story sounds all too familiar Man... I've been there and in many ways I still am, but I will say and people can disagree with this if they want but for myself anyway, it has gotten easier and I believe it will for you to...
Now to clarify, when I say "the wrong reasons", I'm not talking about why you started your journey. I know everyone is doing this for themselves and family and those are as noble of reasons as it gets... I'm talking about all the things you decided to do to help you reach your goals...
I believe you should eat for health, or at least not to poison yourself... Not because CICO, iifym, ketosis, blah, blah, blah... People can woo me to death for saying it but I'm always going to stand hear and say regardless that eating a healthy, sensible, balanced diet, will always trump cico...
If you choose to not eat McDonald's today because you want to stay under your caloric goal, I believe your doing it for the wrong reasons... If you choose to not eat McDonald's today because you would rather eat something that is better, or at least not as bad for you... I'll put my money on you
I choose to forgo McDonald's for several reasons. Calories, food quality, and I can make healthier options. So it is a combo of all of them.2 -
I’ve kept my weight the same now for ten years by watching my calories. If everyone did this their would be far fewer overweight people. And I don’t find it hard, because I always include treats in my plan. Anyone overweight did not track their calories!! Or they were not aware of how many they were eating. Who knew that their could be over 5 hundred calories in a muffin. I didn’t know till restaurants started posting it on their menus3
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Those treats always seem to taste better in my imagination than in my mouth. When I am tempted, I remind myself that I usually regret it when I splurge
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Does anyone else get weary of it all and just want to eat how ever much you want? I really struggled with that this week. I just wanted to be a couch potato. I did talk myself out of it and got outside and got my walking in. I did log and kept my eating in check.
I know part of it is the weather I'm tired of the cold and dreary weather and more snow predicted for Monday. This is the first year this type of weather is bothering me.
Do others feel the same?
Pam
I've been more or less in maintenance going on 5 years. I usually put on 8-10 Lbs over the winter and then take it off in the spring...mostly due to it begin dark in the morning and dark when I get home after work (and cold) and my primary form of exercise is road cycling so my activity level drops a lot in the winter.
I've been at this long enough now that I don't press the issue. I still get in some exercise in the winter, but it can be kind of hit or miss...certainly isn't as regular because I don't really like working on my indoor cycle trainer...but I know that as soon as daylight savings time rolls around I'll be back out on the road more. For me, it's just a matter of it is what it is.
I don't typically focus much on the number on the scale...I'm more concerned with my health so even with my weight gain in the winter I'm still at a healthy BF%...just a bit fluffier than I am the rest of the year.
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I get it @pkweier - I am not that far into Maintenance (about 1.5 years now). The honeymoon period was over and sometimes I was just weary of it all. I missed the old days where I never looked at a label, where my husband and I would just hang out and play video games all day, where I didn’t feel like I was constantly saying “no” or finding substitutes for goodies...
With that said, when I nearly died earlier this year (not being dramatic), the experience forced me to take a step back and reevaluate what was important. Being healthy = totally important! Being a specific, arbitrary weight on the scale.... not so much. This further exasperated my feeling about Maintenance. I guess this is part of why so many people “give up” and regain the weight. It takes a lot of mental strength to have consistency not just day over day but month over month and year over year.
For me, personally... I ended up doing some soul searching and re-evaluated my “why.” As a result, I restructured some of my goals and the methods to get to my newly tweaked “why.” I’ve heard that nuance helps with the “stickiness” of a habit and I am starting to see that play out - my old goals still make me feel “weary” to think about, but those new goals are keeping me motivated. Perhaps it’s time to re-evaluate your “why”?
Good luck!
Hey, I definitely wouldn't consider a year and a half of maintenance "not that far". That's a nice length of time to be in maintenance. Many don't make it even that far.1 -
So here's my two cents on this.
You can for sure eat as much as you want. ( Before people come at me with pitchforks, hear me out ) You can for sure do it, but just make sure to balance it.
There are different ways to offset this of course.
1- Exercise. Using exercise to mitigate those extra calories, means you can eat more and just work it out/off
However you mentioned sometimes you may not want to go outside and such ( valid, because this happens to every human on the planet occasionally )
2- So in that case, you could eat more today ( Monday ) to eat a little bit less on say.. Thursday ( Picked days at random)
But you mentioned you didn't want to balance what you eat for the week, which brings me to my final ( and in my personal opinion my preferred choice)
3- If there's a day/week you want to eat a lot, but feel guilty? Do it anyways. I'm in my 6th phase of losing weight ( ankle injuries, and medical/clinical depression set it back the last 5 times ) and I know when I reached maintenance, there were days or even a week, where I wanted to pig out. So, I did. Got it out of my system, and then the next day/week, went back to eating what I had committed to.
I don't have any idea how much you lost to get to this phase, but you worked your pants off to get there. That took days/weeks maybe even years of hard fought battles, your will power winning over your desire and such.
A week to treat yourself? I definitely would say you've earned it.
And I think that's what people miss sometimes when they enter maintenance. Some people are 100% convinced you have to stay at a certain intake each week/day, or you gain all the weight back.
It was just like losing weight in the first place. You had cheat days, meals, maybe even that dreaded cheat christmas week. And you still got to where you are and reached your goals. Maintenance is the exact same thing. You can have a cheat week, day, meal etc; as long as you don't let it become habit forming.
You've done all the hard parts, you've fought the battles, you've won the war, so now let yourself enjoy the spoils of victory.
Sorry for the long post, ha. Hope it helped!
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@tmaths thank you for such a great response
I've lost 195 pounds took me from January 1 2016 till I called maintenance this past September. I'm feeling better and it has helped to see others who have the same feeling and how they managed to keep on going.
I want to thank everyone who responded I appreciated your insight.3 -
So here's my two cents on this.
You can for sure eat as much as you want. ( Before people come at me with pitchforks, hear me out ) You can for sure do it, but just make sure to balance it.
There are different ways to offset this of course.
1- Exercise. Using exercise to mitigate those extra calories, means you can eat more and just work it out/off
However you mentioned sometimes you may not want to go outside and such ( valid, because this happens to every human on the planet occasionally )
2- So in that case, you could eat more today ( Monday ) to eat a little bit less on say.. Thursday ( Picked days at random)
But you mentioned you didn't want to balance what you eat for the week, which brings me to my final ( and in my personal opinion my preferred choice)
3- If there's a day/week you want to eat a lot, but feel guilty? Do it anyways. I'm in my 6th phase of losing weight ( ankle injuries, and medical/clinical depression set it back the last 5 times ) and I know when I reached maintenance, there were days or even a week, where I wanted to pig out. So, I did. Got it out of my system, and then the next day/week, went back to eating what I had committed to.
I don't have any idea how much you lost to get to this phase, but you worked your pants off to get there. That took days/weeks maybe even years of hard fought battles, your will power winning over your desire and such.
A week to treat yourself? I definitely would say you've earned it.
And I think that's what people miss sometimes when they enter maintenance. Some people are 100% convinced you have to stay at a certain intake each week/day, or you gain all the weight back.
It was just like losing weight in the first place. You had cheat days, meals, maybe even that dreaded cheat christmas week. And you still got to where you are and reached your goals. Maintenance is the exact same thing. You can have a cheat week, day, meal etc; as long as you don't let it become habit forming.
You've done all the hard parts, you've fought the battles, you've won the war, so now let yourself enjoy the spoils of victory.
Sorry for the long post, ha. Hope it helped!
Not true for everyone.
I can barely keep a 250 deficit because I'm so hungry, then PMS comes and I wipe my deficit for a week (or two) in a few days because I'm so hungry I feel sick if I don't eat.
I mean, it's true I suppose that I could totally deprive myself all the time of bread or pasta or anything else that's not always filling for the calories, then I could keep a deficit, but that's not exactly sustainable either... just seems to me that at this point it's the only way I'll be able to lose again.
Can't exercise more either because my legs are sore ALL THE TIME.
It's extremely hard to stay positive and optimistic at this point for me. It was so easy to lose too... stupid hormones (I've gained 15 lbs back in 3 years).7 -
LivingtheLeanDream wrote: »How long have you been in maintenance? I definately remember feeling that way during my first year, in recent years I haven't to think too much about it because I just do what I do, eat what I eat and I maintain effortlessly - at least that's how it now feels. So I think you'll definately not always feel like you do now.
How long have you been in maintenance?
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Yes! Trying to maintain 125 at 5’3’’ seems difficult! I am hungry and just want to EAT! I can’t imagine how I will ever lose the last 5-10 pounds being this hungry. I lost the weight over a year so I should be used to this...3
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kommodevaran wrote: ».... I want to eat more, almost all the time, and sometimes I do, and sometimes I just tell myself "no, not now"....
This describes me exactly. Plus, I have adult beverages on weekends, and I want more of that, too. Almost all the time. I share kommodevaran's observation that, in general, loving the stuff I do eat makes it easier to feel ok with less quantity than I would like. Quality > quantity. Consuming less, enjoying more. Do I overdo it on occasion? Absolutely. Sometimes planned, sometimes spontaneous. But it all counts, so overdoing must be averaged with doing with less to maintain.
When I get weary, I contemplate the alternatives. One alternative- and it is very real- is gaining weight or maintaining a higher weight. Something like 2/3 of Americans are overweight, so it is the most prevalent alternative, evidently. I guess we all want to eat more than we need, and most of us actually do. Feeling good in my body matters to me, though. It matters enough that the continual effort is decisively worth it. Plus I'm a terrible shopper and very lazy about it and having to replace a lot of my clothes would be a huge pain I don't want. So it comes down to a "pick your hard" decision for me.
It's great you have a canine motivator to get you outside, OP. Enjoy the little guy and give yourself a break now and then.
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kommodevaran wrote: ».... I want to eat more, almost all the time, and sometimes I do, and sometimes I just tell myself "no, not now"....
This describes me exactly. Plus, I have adult beverages on weekends, and I want more of that, too. Almost all the time. I share kommodevaran's observation that, in general, loving the stuff I do eat makes it easier to feel ok with less quantity than I would like. Quality > quantity. Consuming less, enjoying more. Do I overdo it on occasion? Absolutely. Sometimes planned, sometimes spontaneous. But it all counts, so overdoing must be averaged with doing with less to maintain.
When I get weary, I contemplate the alternatives. One alternative- and it is very real- is gaining weight or maintaining a higher weight. Something like 2/3 of Americans are overweight, so it is the most prevalent alternative, evidently. I guess we all want to eat more than we need, and most of us actually do. Feeling good in my body matters to me, though. It matters enough that the continual effort is decisively worth it. Plus I'm a terrible shopper and very lazy about it and having to replace a lot of my clothes would be a huge pain I don't want. So it comes down to a "pick your hard" decision for me.
It's great you have a canine motivator to get you outside, OP. Enjoy the little guy and give yourself a break now and then.
Thanks for your insight. I love all the new clothes I can wear now. I gave all my old clothes away just so I would not have them as a fall back just in case mindset
Thanks for the reminder choose your hard.3 -
I get so weary of it all.
But, in the end, all I say to myself is this.. "you need to remember what Steve said, that you'll be dead soon.. and while you are alive ... do, forgive, help, learn, try, fail, love, believe, spoil, engage, motivate and all the other personal intrigues to make living, a worthy endeavor." and BOOM! I'm back. I really am. I am not a quitter, that much I know. No dogma is going to catch-up with me. Never!
Thanks to Steve Jobs for the mental help and clarity.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA
Amen
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LivingtheLeanDream wrote: »How long have you been in maintenance? I definately remember feeling that way during my first year, in recent years I haven't to think too much about it because I just do what I do, eat what I eat and I maintain effortlessly - at least that's how it now feels. So I think you'll definately not always feel like you do now.
How long have you been in maintenance?
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ME! I eat what I want and I love my booze. BUT I WORK IT OFF, That's a must.0
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Not weary at all. I like the discipline. I like snacks a lot. 1/4 of my calories comes from snacks. In the past month, I had days where I binged on Haagen Dazs for a time. MFP allowed me to track that though I couldn't bear seeing all that indulgence up there.
My "cheat" was to portion out the ice cream over several days (though I might've eaten more of it in one of the days). So I woke up knowing that my snacking for that day would be pretty limited since it was already enjoyed (ahead of time) and pre-logged. Seeing the numbers up there really helps me. I just had 2 squares of chocolate and logged that in. In the past I might've had more without thinking about it and even till I was not really enjoying it even. Thank goodness for MFP...1 -
KANGOOJUMPS wrote: »ME! I eat what I want and I love my booze. BUT I WORK IT OFF, That's a must.
Haha I could never work out the 1000 calories of dessert that I want to eat daily. Must be nice not to want that much food in the first place.4 -
KANGOOJUMPS wrote: »ME! I eat what I want and I love my booze. BUT I WORK IT OFF, That's a must.
Haha I could never work out the 1000 calories of dessert that I want to eat daily. Must be nice not to want that much food in the first place.
Exactly.
Huge appetites are a frickin curse...
My limbs would all detach by the time I worked off all I wanted daily. 6 -
I'm back to feeling discipline and motivated again in part to all the wonderful people on MFP.3
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I know just what you are saying @pkweier. I just got back from a girls weekend where I indulged a bit. The funny part though is I'm more motivated now than I was before I went. The little break did me good. I probably ate an extra 600-800 calories for the weekend and it was worth it because I feel refreshed. Like you I finally decided I was in maintenance last fall so it hasn't been that long and at times I really, really want to eat. I also got rid of all my "fat" clothes so I can't afford to gain!1
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cheryldumais wrote: »I know just what you are saying @pkweier. I just got back from a girls weekend where I indulged a bit. The funny part though is I'm more motivated now than I was before I went. The little break did me good. I probably ate an extra 600-800 calories for the weekend and it was worth it because I feel refreshed. Like you I finally decided I was in maintenance last fall so it hasn't been that long and at times I really, really want to eat. I also got rid of all my "fat" clothes so I can't afford to gain!
I know I can't afford to pay for new clothes my hubby wouldn't be happy as Everytime I go into a store cause I can now wear normal clothes I buy something.1 -
Does anyone else get weary of it all and just want to eat how ever much you want? I really struggled with that this week. I just wanted to be a couch potato. I did talk myself out of it and got outside and got my walking in. I did log and kept my eating in check.
I know part of it is the weather I'm tired of the cold and dreary weather and more snow predicted for Monday. This is the first year this type of weather is bothering me.
Do others feel the same?
Pam
Yeah I do sometimes. All my life (the decades when I had no weight problems) I would periodically get off track and gain a few lbs. Then I'd feel my jeans getting too tight and I'd shake it off and get back to normal.0 -
I find that keeping a positive attitude and looking for ways to make things work rather than complaining about reasons I can't do a thing really helps.
I've been in maintenance for several years. I've recently gained a bit of weight until I'm over the upper limit of my maintenance range by a bit (possibly water weight due to TOM, since I was within the range this morning). My suggestions are to have splurge days sometimes, but moderate them with days where you keep your diet and exercise on point. When you hit the top of your range, use the same intestinal fortitude you were using during the weight loss phase and do what worked for you in the past to get back down to an acceptable weight.
OP, as someone who has been in maintenance for quite a while, YES, me too.... and as I mentioned above, sometimes I let things go. But I have a (very generous 10 pound) weight range that I strive to stay in... if I find myself outside of it, I buckle down and get back where I was. While I don't think its true that skinny feels better than chocolate tastes, I DO greatly dislike feeling bloated and unhealthy... so sometimes I forgo the chocolate. :flowerforyou:0 -
I'm not to the point of being weary, but there are those days where I want to relax my discipline. But I motivate myself for my eating like I do for exercise, and that is when I don't want to exercise i reflect on a different day where I didn't want to exercise and did it anyway and the positive feeling exercise provides... That brings me back on track again! It is going to happen to all of us, and the difference is recognizing where your mind is (which you did!) and recapturing the thought of the gains you have made to get your thinking back in order. Well worth the effort!!!2
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Almost 5 years of maintenance...you're always going to have ho-hum days...even ho-hum weeks...and ho-hum months...but if you're doing what you need to be doing most of the time, it all evens out and works out. You don't have to be "on" all of the time and you're not going to be either.
Winter is the hardest for me because it's cold and dark...I'm stoked that day light savings time is back because that means I can easily start getting in my evening rides again out on the road...so the fun is back!5
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