Milk as a meal replacement
feliciaboots
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Has anyone attempted to use plain milk as a meal replacement?
One liter (4 cups) of 1% milk is 440 calories, 36 grams of protein, 48 grams of carbs and 10 grams of fat. (which is almost exactly what my meal plan requires).
One liter (4 cups) of 1% milk is 440 calories, 36 grams of protein, 48 grams of carbs and 10 grams of fat. (which is almost exactly what my meal plan requires).
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Sounds fine if you're happy not to chew...
Is there a reason you need such a low fat plan?3 -
I'd rather just eat a well rounded meal personally...I like to chew...drinking my meal sounds horribly unsatisfying.9
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I'd still be hungry. I need to chew real food.5
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Probably could but lack of fiber I'm betting you wouldn't feel full. Never tried but by the macros those aren't too bad of numbers beats my protein meal replacement shakes I'd also worry about the micros over the long term losing a lot of vitamins and minerals. My Meal Replacement Shake is 160 calories / 25 protein / 12 carbs / 3 fat but 8 fiber and a lot of vitamins/minerals.4
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Micronutrients are important too. Just because it has the right macro split doesn't mean it gives you all the nutrients you need.
Not to mention that flavours and textures are what makes food exciting for most people.10 -
mark rippetoe recommends a gallon of milk a day for those who are bulking.
But even he realizes that that is rather boring.1 -
I think I would be sick. I mean, I do drink that much water on a regular basis, but a liter of milk?3
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Why would you want to replace a meal? Does the milk have to replace a meal? Does it sound too boring and commonplace to drink a liter of milk with your meals, through the day? Or too obvious to cross your mind? What meal plan is that? A meal plan is a inanimate object; a meal plan should be designed according to your needs, which is a certain amount of a range of nutrients every day, but also good taste and food satisfaction.6
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I think you'd be awfully hungry and have some digestive issues.
Why would you want to do that?4 -
TavistockToad wrote: »Sounds fine if you're happy not to chew...
Is there a reason you need such a low fat plan?
The low fat/high protein diet plan is because I'm trying to work on lowering the stomach fat (to accent the waist) while bulking up the legs (I run & cycle a lot) - I have an inverted triangle shape which I'm working on changing as much as I can to an hourglass.
Granted it would be terribly boring and TBH I would probably (at most!) use it to replace one meal - probably lunch. I just figured out the numbers and was wondering if anyone had actually done it.
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feliciaboots wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Sounds fine if you're happy not to chew...
Is there a reason you need such a low fat plan?
The low fat/high protein diet plan is because I'm trying to work on lowering the stomach fat (to accent the waist) while bulking up the legs (I run & cycle a lot) - I have an inverted triangle shape which I'm working on changing as much as I can to an hourglass.
Granted it would be terribly boring and TBH I would probably (at most!) use it to replace one meal - probably lunch. I just figured out the numbers and was wondering if anyone had actually done it.
How are you finding bulking and cutting at the same time?7 -
If I tried to replace one of my 3 daily meals with milk ... I'd have 4 meals.9
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TavistockToad wrote: »feliciaboots wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Sounds fine if you're happy not to chew...
Is there a reason you need such a low fat plan?
The low fat/high protein diet plan is because I'm trying to work on lowering the stomach fat (to accent the waist) while bulking up the legs (I run & cycle a lot) - I have an inverted triangle shape which I'm working on changing as much as I can to an hourglass.
Granted it would be terribly boring and TBH I would probably (at most!) use it to replace one meal - probably lunch. I just figured out the numbers and was wondering if anyone had actually done it.
How are you finding bulking and cutting at the same time?
My body builds muscle very quickly so the bulking is pretty easy, but the waist line is quite stubborn. I think a lot has to do with the type of running i have been doing. Last year was lower heartrate stuff (first time actively running as exercise) and I gained my shape relatively quickly. This year I was doing a lot more at a higher heartrate but as I have been reading that burns muscle while leaving fat. So I'm changing up my running to be lower speed to keep the heartrate down around 140 bpm.10 -
feliciaboots wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »feliciaboots wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Sounds fine if you're happy not to chew...
Is there a reason you need such a low fat plan?
The low fat/high protein diet plan is because I'm trying to work on lowering the stomach fat (to accent the waist) while bulking up the legs (I run & cycle a lot) - I have an inverted triangle shape which I'm working on changing as much as I can to an hourglass.
Granted it would be terribly boring and TBH I would probably (at most!) use it to replace one meal - probably lunch. I just figured out the numbers and was wondering if anyone had actually done it.
How are you finding bulking and cutting at the same time?
My body builds muscle very quickly so the bulking is pretty easy, but the waist line is quite stubborn. I think a lot has to do with the type of running i have been doing. Last year was lower heartrate stuff (first time actively running as exercise) and I gained my shape relatively quickly. This year I was doing a lot more at a higher heartrate but as I have been reading that burns muscle while leaving fat. So I'm changing up my running to be lower speed to keep the heartrate down around 140 bpm.
Yeah, no...8 -
feliciaboots wrote: »
My body builds muscle very quickly so the bulking is pretty easy, but the waist line is quite stubborn. I think a lot has to do with the type of running i have been doing. Last year was lower heartrate stuff (first time actively running as exercise) and I gained my shape relatively quickly. This year I was doing a lot more at a higher heartrate but as I have been reading that burns muscle while leaving fat. So I'm changing up my running to be lower speed to keep the heartrate down around 140 bpm.
As a nurse, I have never heard of the body burning muscle during exercise.... The body will burn protein if there are inadequate carbs available, but you shouldn't be burning muscle unless you have really put yourself into starvation mode.
The higher speed running--usually aerobic heart rate levels of 55-85%--may not burn as much fat as a lower rate, but they strengthen your heart over time. I was taught that the 45-55% range burned more fat, but looking into it now, there's some conflicting information (and my nutrition class that taught this was about 8 years ago, so there's probably new info out since then).
Low carb diets tend to burn more fat because you aren't supplying the body with easy fuel; it has to burn protein or fat instead. That being said, some level of carbs and healthy fats (think nuts, avocados, etc) are necessary for health, and healthy fats can help you feel full longer, so you aren't as tempted to snack between meals.
If you're the sort that can drink a liter of milk and be satisfied, try it and see if it works as a meal replacement (since you're only replacing 1 out of 3 meals). I couldn't drink that much milk in the course of a day, let alone in one sitting, but then again, I'm mildly lactose intolerant.
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feliciaboots wrote: »
My body builds muscle very quickly so the bulking is pretty easy, but the waist line is quite stubborn. I think a lot has to do with the type of running i have been doing. Last year was lower heartrate stuff (first time actively running as exercise) and I gained my shape relatively quickly. This year I was doing a lot more at a higher heartrate but as I have been reading that burns muscle while leaving fat. So I'm changing up my running to be lower speed to keep the heartrate down around 140 bpm.
As a nurse, I have never heard of the body burning muscle during exercise.... The body will burn protein if there are inadequate carbs available, but you shouldn't be burning muscle unless you have really put yourself into starvation mode.
The higher speed running--usually aerobic heart rate levels of 55-85%--may not burn as much fat as a lower rate, but they strengthen your heart over time. I was taught that the 45-55% range burned more fat, but looking into it now, there's some conflicting information (and my nutrition class that taught this was about 8 years ago, so there's probably new info out since then).
Low carb diets tend to burn more fat because you aren't supplying the body with easy fuel; it has to burn protein or fat instead. That being said, some level of carbs and healthy fats (think nuts, avocados, etc) are necessary for health, and healthy fats can help you feel full longer, so you aren't as tempted to snack between meals.
If you're the sort that can drink a liter of milk and be satisfied, try it and see if it works as a meal replacement (since you're only replacing 1 out of 3 meals). I couldn't drink that much milk in the course of a day, let alone in one sitting, but then again, I'm mildly lactose intolerant.
My understanding: muscle loss due to cardio will only be an issue if one is consuming insufficient calories overall. It isn't going to be created by overall heart rate during exercise.4 -
Sort of. The 2 days a week that I get up too early to stomach a protein shake, I take a bottle of chocolate milk with me to the gym.1
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Milk doesn't fill me up at all.1
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feliciaboots wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Sounds fine if you're happy not to chew...
Is there a reason you need such a low fat plan?
The low fat/high protein diet plan is because I'm trying to work on lowering the stomach fat (to accent the waist) while bulking up the legs (I run & cycle a lot) - I have an inverted triangle shape which I'm working on changing as much as I can to an hourglass.
Granted it would be terribly boring and TBH I would probably (at most!) use it to replace one meal - probably lunch. I just figured out the numbers and was wondering if anyone had actually done it.
If you are referring to recomposition, it is possible but I wouldn't say you will significantly "bulk" up, more you will maintain what you have and add a little here, lean a little there. It takes quite a bit of time, and depending on your stats can be great if you are at your goal but not happy with your bodyfat% ... I would say it can be more suboptimal if you are overweight. So it depends on your stats.
Also while it is important to get adequate macros, recomp isn't about being low fat or anything. It has more to do with proper training and eating at maintenance. You don't have to overcomplicate it.6 -
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