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Tracy430
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I have about 30 lbs to lose and I am thinking about converting to a vegan lifestyle. I read McDougall "Starch Solution" and it makes sense to me and seems like something I can do. However, my question is whether. It will work if I do not commit 100%. Suppose I use oil every now and then? I will have no problem giving up meat but I'd like to eat cheese two or three times a week ( I currently eat it twice a day). Does it have to be all or nothing right from the start?
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As far as weight loss... Sorry for the typos. It is 5 am.1
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As far as weight loss... Sorry for the typos. It is 5 am.
Weight loss is eating fewer calories than your body burns. It doesn't matter where those calories come from. (For health, obviously the source makes a difference, but not when it comes to strictly weight loss.) If you want to eat vegan, eat vegan, but it won't magically make you lose more weight than the same number of non-vegan sourced calories would.8 -
You don't need to do a diet with a name, or stick to a small list of specific foods to successfully lose weight. You just need to be in a calorie deficit.
I personally don't find a restrictive "all or nothing" approach helpful or healthy.8 -
I see what you are saying but what I like so much about the starch solution is that the foods are so low calorie and filling that you can eat a lot on it. I have never been very good at creating a calorie defecit by cutting back on everything. I'd rather be able to eat unlimited amounts of most things.4
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I see what you are saying but what I like so much about the starch solution is that the foods are so low calorie and filling that you can eat a lot on it. I have never been very good at creating a calorie defecit by cutting back on everything. I'd rather be able to eat unlimited amounts of most things.
I'm a volume eater. I eat massive meals most of the time. I don't follow any specific "diet", I just eat foods I like that satisfy me. I like meat and cheese, and chocolate, and other dairy. I like adding fat to things, firstly because it's healthy, secondly it makes food taste good. I know I can eat whatever I like and still achieve goals as long as I stick to a deficit - I don't need someone to tell me what to eat though.4 -
Vegetables can be eating unlimited quantities for the most part..unless cooked in fat. I think there are reasons people choose to go vegan but I don't think weight loss is a good one.1
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I see what you are saying but what I like so much about the starch solution is that the foods are so low calorie and filling that you can eat a lot on it. I have never been very good at creating a calorie defecit by cutting back on everything. I'd rather be able to eat unlimited amounts of most things.
There is no plan for weight loss where you can truly eat unlimited amounts of most things. You may be able to come up with a plan where the foods you eat are filling and satisfying enough that you happen to create a deficit and it feels like you're eating an "unlimited" amount. The Starch Solution may be that plan for you, it may not be.
I tried the Starch Solution several years ago and it didn't happen to create a calorie deficit for me so it didn't result in weight loss. I personally found a low fat diet left me feeling unsatisfied and led to cravings.
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I see what you are saying but what I like so much about the starch solution is that the foods are so low calorie and filling that you can eat a lot on it. I have never been very good at creating a calorie defecit by cutting back on everything. I'd rather be able to eat unlimited amounts of most things.
FWIW, you may want to check out the volume eaters thread, if you haven't already.1 -
I see what you are saying but what I like so much about the starch solution is that the foods are so low calorie and filling that you can eat a lot on it. I have never been very good at creating a calorie defecit by cutting back on everything. I'd rather be able to eat unlimited amounts of most things.
also - not everyone finds eating volume of low calorie food satiating - i know i don't - i cna eat an entire family size bag of mixed veggies and still be hungry (which is notionally like 4-5 servings)2 -
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moosmum1972 wrote: »Vegans still get fat.....
Yes. But to be fair to OP, "Starch Solution" is a diet that layers additional restrictions on top of eliminating animal products for the specific goal of weight control. This isn't to say that it works for everyone, but OP is clearly not talking about veganism but adopting McDougall's restrictions while still including some animal products in her diet.
So veganism isn't really the topic here.1 -
Honestly, I'd never switch to veganism just because it seems like a good way to lose 30lbs. You switch to veganism for beliefs and activism.
You don't need to COMPLETELY change what you eat to lose the weight. Just eat less of what you eat now. Cook it differently, subtract some ingredients, etc.
Don't limit yourself to some "plan" you read about because I can 99% tell you it's not sustainable. You might lose weight but it won't teach you how to keep it off.5 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »I see what you are saying but what I like so much about the starch solution is that the foods are so low calorie and filling that you can eat a lot on it. I have never been very good at creating a calorie defecit by cutting back on everything. I'd rather be able to eat unlimited amounts of most things.
I'm a volume eater. I eat massive meals most of the time. I don't follow any specific "diet", I just eat foods I like that satisfy me. I like meat and cheese, and chocolate, and other dairy. I like adding fat to things, firstly because it's healthy, secondly it makes food taste good. I know I can eat whatever I like and still achieve goals as long as I stick to a deficit - I don't need someone to tell me what to eat though.
Right here. She is on point when it comes to how to do it.
It’s called flexible Dieting. Why would you willingly restrict yourself from certain foods without a real reason? I eat whatever I want and still hit my goals. Of course I won’t do it everyday. Currently cutting weight and in a deficit. Yes It’s hard to say no to buying some liquorice, but I know when I go to gain again it’ll be all you can eat within reason. I still eat burgers, pizza, steaks, cake, ice cream, creamer in my coffee, WHITE BREAD, with no hinderance to my deficit or weight loss.
Be smart about things.
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I see what you are saying but what I like so much about the starch solution is that the foods are so low calorie and filling that you can eat a lot on it. I have never been very good at creating a calorie defecit by cutting back on everything. I'd rather be able to eat unlimited amounts of most things.
It's fine to gradually remodel your way of eating so that you can eat fewer calories but still feel satisfied.
Personally, I wouldn't bother with shooting for a vegan diet absent ethical reasons, but instead add in more veggies (if that's what sounds good) to replace the less-satisfying parts of your current (pre-weight-loss) eating.
If you start logging what you eat, diary review can be a very powerful way to improve your eating. Review your MFP diary every day or two, looking for foods that "cost" too many calories for the nutrition, satiation, or happiness they bring you. Reduce or eliminate those foods, replacing them with something else you enjoy that better meets your goals. Over time, you'll achieve a delicious, nutritious, filing way of eating that's personally tailored just for you.
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The starch solution will work for you. If you are eating mostly that way and eat some things that have oil, it will still work better than the way you eat when you gain weight. Don't let it become an excuse to eat fried thing though...be honest with your way of eating. If you do cut out all oils, you will start the process of cleaning out your arteries too. It's not just weight, it's over all vascular health as well that gets affected. Keep watching the videos and doing research while you transition...and enjoy not counting calories, bread, potatoes, rice and all sorts of stuff!9
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Yes, you can pick a plan that mostly works for you, and modify it so that it is better for what you need, as long as it is below your calorie goal and nutritionally balanced. It will not help you lose weight though, if it goes above your goal, although you will still probably recieve nutritional benefits instead.0
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The starch solution will work for you. If you are eating mostly that way and eat some things that have oil, it will still work better than the way you eat when you gain weight. Don't let it become an excuse to eat fried thing though...be honest with your way of eating. If you do cut out all oils, you will start the process of cleaning out your arteries too. It's not just weight, it's over all vascular health as well that gets affected. Keep watching the videos and doing research while you transition...and enjoy not counting calories, bread, potatoes, rice and all sorts of stuff!
^ Ignore this woo.4 -
People lose weight all the time without resorting to becoming vegan so as a simple answer to your question, yes it is possible to lose weight without fully committing to a vegan lifestyle. May I also add that I don't think a desire to lose weight is a good reason to try to go vegan. If your goal is to lose weight there are much easier and much more effective methods than just avoiding animal products. Now if you want to avoid animal products for ethical reasons that is entirely different.3
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