Advice on Whey Protein
39andfat
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should i get this, is it useful for weight training?
should i get this, is it useful for weight training?
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should i get this, is it useful for weight training?
What's your total dialy protein look like? Are you hitting those numbers? Are you struggling to hit adequate protein levels?
ON is a pretty quality product4 -
i'm currently focusing on losing fat but in a few weeks i want to start building muscle so though its a quickly efficient way of getting protein straight after workout.
I am currently not using gym due to a back injury, it's on sale today so thought i'd order.0 -
Whats your daily protein goal. How much do you weigh?0
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well when i start doing weight/build muscle i will weight 168lbs ( i currently weight 178lbs) i am 5'11 tall. my BMI is 24.20
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How heavy is it?
Can you buy heavier ones as you progress?4 -
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How much protein are you eating?0
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90g a day but as i said not eating to build muscle yet just lose fat0
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When you are losing weight, its even more important to have high protein so you don't lose muscle. ON is a good whey, so you can pick some of that up.2
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how much protein should i be having whilst trying to lose weight, MFP says 80-85g a day so i am over everyday?1
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140g is that for building muscle or losing fat?0
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When you are losing weight, its even more important to have high protein so you don't lose muscle. ON is a good whey, so you can pick some of that up.
As was already stated in this post, it is even more critical when in deficit. The 140 grams would be good for you either losing or building muscle. You are making a distinction that shouldn't be made.
MFP protein goal should really be viewed as a minimum for a sedentary individual. But if your goal is to maintain muscle mass while losing, around 1 gram per lb of lean body mass is where you want to be.
When you refer to building muscle, are you going to stop eating in deficit and start eating at maintenance or above while weight lifting? What is the plan?4 -
MFP has set my Protein goal at 80G is this not correct then?
i plan to eat above maintenance when i want to build muscle0 -
I do not take into consideration any of MFP auto calculations/recommendations. When losing weight, you want about 0.80g PER lb of body weight just to help prevent you from loosing any lean body mass. Its tough yes, but grilled chicken breasts have become my best friend during my journey, lean hamburger patties are great, high protein, reasonable fat, no carb. mmmmm1
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i eat a lot of grilled chicken but could probably eat more.0
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Optimum Nutrition is an excellent product, and their flavors are usually top-notch. Other good brands I've enjoyed: Dymatize, Nature's Best/Isopure, Quest, Sparta Nutrition, MuscleTech, and BSN/Syntha-6.
Whey protein "isolates" will provide you with a purer protein (at a higher price point) than whey "concentrates" -- the latter often include slightly more fats and carbohydrates that haven't been removed. Keep in mind that some added fats and carbs aren't always a bad thing; they're also necessary for muscle growth in response to and exercise regimen, but it depends on what your macronutrient goals will allow. The Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard, I believe, is a blend of isolate and concentrate.
On the nutrition label, I typically look for at least 2 g protein per 10 calories in a good powder (e.g. 100 kcal / 20 g protein per serving or better). Try to get your protein from whole food sources when possible, but supplementation is good right after workouts especially.
As has been said, try to make your protein goal about 0.8 to 1.0 g per pound of body weight. For example, I'm 170 lb (~77kg) and so I'd try to get ~135-170 g of protein throughout my day.
-- FYI below, feel free to skip --
Another protein source to try (when you level up
) is a casein powder at night. Whereas whey is a pretty quickly absorbed and soluble protein, casein is a slower-digesting protein that can provide a more gradual/sustained release for when you're not able to eat (e.g. when you're sleeping). There are some brands that sell whey/casein blends so you have a fast and slow uptake profile if you want both (I think Quest proteins are mostly blends; some other brands have individual products that are blends).
And just a side note about where these proteins come from: generally, most whey/casein powders are byproducts of the cheesemaking industry: most cheeses are made from the less-soluble casein proteins from milk, and the watery whey is typically a byproduct. This byproduct then gets processed to remove sugars, etc., dried, and powdered/flavored and sold as a supplement.4 -
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should i get this, is it useful for weight training?
Okay so it seems that you have this idea that your protein amount should be different while losing weight vs building muscle. Protein amount should be high regardless because you probably already have muscle in your body and whatever muscle you do have currently even if it's beneath layers of fat it's still muscle that exists, in other words you still need protein to KEEP the muscle you have in your body, so yes you need to UP the protein big time. I would even still lift weights, but aim to lose fat so yes you can go into a caloric deficit to lose the fat but while your doing that you can still work on your strength and preserve any muscle you do have so INCREASE THE PROTEIN!! lol. My fitness pal unfortunately doesn't design macros based on weight lifting or bodybuilding, it's based on general needs for health maintenance so it doesn't follow the 1 g per lb of body weight rule that most weight lifters follow. So get 170-180 grams of Protein per day even if you're losing weight or building muscle, more protein won't hurt, it could only honestly help. Hope this makes sense0 -
The department of health suggests 100g of protein a day max as can cause osteoporosis.10
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OP, getting back to your original question, if you think that as low protein intake as 100 g per day is enough for you, then there is no point to waste money on whey protein, since that amount is very easy to get from usual food. My current protein goal is set to 170 g (5.11, 185lbs) and I usually get that amount from my normal food without any problem.
Protein powder is not some sort of magical ingredient that helps you build muscle, and should only be used as supplemental source in case you can't get enough protein from other sources.1 -
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If you are vegan you should check out bulk barns TVP (Textured Vegetable Protein)0
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The department of health suggests 100g of protein a day max as can cause osteoporosis.
Here's a summary of myths about protein, one of them being the "too much protein causes osteoporosis." https://www.issaonline.edu/blog/index.cfm/2016/how-much-is-too-much-protein-myths-busted4 -
Honest question OP, whats the point of asking for advice when you argue against it and dont want to consider it? If you want more data, here is a basic meta-analysis on protein needs.
http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdf/10.1139/apnm-2015-05495 -
The department of health suggests 100g of protein a day max as can cause osteoporosis.
Stick with 90g then, if that's where you feel safe. But there's plenty of solid research showing that considerably higher levels than that are optimal for muscle gain. Good luck building any muscle on that level of protein intake unless you're a 100 lb. female.3
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