Diet soda count towards water?
jenniferklemko6905
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Can diet soda count for water intake? I know it’s not pure water but does have lots in it.
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Can it? Sure. Does it? Up to you.1
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Nobody gets gold stars for logging water.7
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Yes. It’s about 99.4% water.4
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Assuming you're worried about hydration, all liquids except alcohol are functionally water. And diet soda has the bonus of no calories, so you're golden!8
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Every liquid you drink is bound to be largely water. Regular soda by volume contains a significant amount of corn syrup and some alcoholic drinks contain significant amounts of - you guessed it - alcohol.
Carbonated water is slightly acidic, although this becomes quickly neutralized by your saliva. Some IBS sufferers find carbonated water to increase the severity of their symptoms.
There have been studies on the difference between carbonated and non-carbonated mineral waters and generally there has been no effect observed between the two in terms of blood calcium or bone density.
Cola drinkers (sugary soda) however, have been observed to have lower hip bone density in middle aged women, although researchers speculate that this has more to do with caffeine intake than anything else.4 -
You need to be hydrated. Most liquids are made of water. Those that aren't (like oil) are easy to distinguish using common sense.4
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Yes count it.1
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Sure. Why not?1
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On the topic of logging diet soda, do those calories add up? I realize there are 0 calories per serving, but if I drank an entire 2 liter bottle of Diet Coke that would be a significant number of calories, wouldn’t it? I’ve had no luck trying to figure this out.0
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luce_de_luce wrote: »On the topic of logging diet soda, do those calories add up? I realize there are 0 calories per serving, but if I drank an entire 2 liter bottle of Diet Coke that would be a significant number of calories, wouldn’t it? I’ve had no luck trying to figure this out.
It still has no sugar. No significant amount of calories.5 -
I ran an online nutrition profile and even at 20 2l bottles the calories are insignificant.3
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I’m a Diet Coke addict. I don’t understand how diet soda can count as water. When I drink it it makes me sooo dehydrated, I suppose if you drank seven glasses of water and one 12 oz can of soda you could count it as water. Definitely not the other way around though.25
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davidylin04 wrote: »Every liquid you drink is bound to be largely water. Regular soda by volume contains a significant amount of corn syrup and some alcoholic drinks contain significant amounts of - you guessed it - alcohol.
Carbonated water is slightly acidic, although this becomes quickly neutralized by your saliva. Some IBS sufferers find carbonated water to increase the severity of their symptoms.
There have been studies on the difference between carbonated and non-carbonated mineral waters and generally there has been no effect observed between the two in terms of blood calcium or bone density.
Cola drinkers (sugary soda) however, have been observed to have lower hip bone density in middle aged women, although researchers speculate that this has more to do with caffeine intake than anything else.
Not every liquid. It's fine to drink H2O, but take a pass on the H2O2.10 -
No it doesn't. Diet soda is over 99% water. How can water dehydrate you?I’m a Diet Coke addict. I don’t understand how diet soda can count as water. When I drink it it makes me sooo dehydrated, I suppose if you drank seven glasses of water and one 12 oz can of soda you could count it as water. Definitely not the other way around though.
It's exactly like saying if you put a few drops of Mio or whatever water flavoring in a glass of water, it suddenly magically isn't water anymore. Or that if you drop a tea bag into a glass of water, a chemical reaction occurs that removes all the water from the water and the liquid becomes something else. It's complete nonsense.
Exactly.I am sorry @leelou84 but if you are still thirsty after drinking diet soda it’s not dehydration that you are feeling.
I guarantee to all readers of this thread that if you were stuck in the desert with only diet soda to drink, it will hydrate you. You will not die.11 -
I’m a Diet Coke addict. I don’t understand how diet soda can count as water. When I drink it it makes me sooo dehydrated, I suppose if you drank seven glasses of water and one 12 oz can of soda you could count it as water. Definitely not the other way around though.
The brain is a funny thing. Diet soda will definitely physically hydrate me, but because I've always associated thirst with drinking water and nothing else, in my mind nothing but water quenches my thirst. Other drinks and foods high in water all contribute to hydration, but I only consume them because I want to enjoy the taste of something or as part of my meal. Could that be the case for you? The residual taste is making you feel like you need to clear your palate with something tasteless?5 -
I saw significant skin improvement when I cut out daily soda consumption in favor of 101oz of water a day.11
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If I didn't count my tea, diet soda (mind you I do log my diet coke separately), or coffee as my "water/liquid intake" in addition to my soups and milk and still went for 2l a day I'd end easily up drinking like 5+l of liquids - which would mean running to the bathroom every 20 minutes all day long
There's days where the majority of what I drink are herbal tea and some diet soda.. I never feel dehydrated
Also, I've actually had people argue with me saying that my (non-flavoured) mineral water "didn't count as water" because it wasn't plain water - which confused the heck out of me2 -
It's up to you really, I don't log anything with caffeine as my water intake... although all herbal teas I drink I consider as my water intake.1
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davidylin04 wrote: »Every liquid you drink is bound to be largely water. Regular soda by volume contains a significant amount of corn syrup and some alcoholic drinks contain significant amounts of - you guessed it - alcohol.
Carbonated water is slightly acidic, although this becomes quickly neutralized by your saliva. Some IBS sufferers find carbonated water to increase the severity of their symptoms.
There have been studies on the difference between carbonated and non-carbonated mineral waters and generally there has been no effect observed between the two in terms of blood calcium or bone density.
Cola drinkers (sugary soda) however, have been observed to have lower hip bone density in middle aged women, although researchers speculate that this has more to do with caffeine intake than anything else.
Not every liquid. It's fine to drink H2O, but take a pass on the H2O2.
Two guys walk into a bar and the bartender asks "What'll be?" The first guy says "I'd like a nice, tall glass of H2O". The second guy says "That sounds good, I'll have H2O too".
The second guy died.10 -
luce_de_luce wrote: »On the topic of logging diet soda, do those calories add up? I realize there are 0 calories per serving, but if I drank an entire 2 liter bottle of Diet Coke that would be a significant number of calories, wouldn’t it? I’ve had no luck trying to figure this out.
It might be as much as 25-40 calories for a 2 liter bottle. out of 1200-2000 daily calories that's not significant.
It's even less significant than low/zero cal foods like pickles and lettuce and cucumbers.
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Just my opinion, although I hope you heed my advice (warning?) but of course the choice is always up to you...
Soda- even diet soda- is bad for you. It's not water. It might have water in it, but it's not straight-up, good-for-you, pure water. Your body NEEDS pure water. My suggestion (take it or leave it) is to ditch soda and drink good old fashioned water. Your body will thank you. If you don't believe me, try it for one week and see how you feel.
Why I say this:
Soda is just horrible for your health, even diet soda. Soda has TONS of sweeteners in it (corn syrup, sugar in regular soda, and artificial sweeteners in "diet"). One can of regular coke contains 39 grams of sugar. The American Heart Association recommends limiting sugar intake to 37.5 grams a day for men, 25 grams a day for women. So one can of coke puts you over your limit for sugar for the day (and that's if you have NOTHING ELSE for that day, carbs included!) This puts you at greater risk for disease and does damage to your body. Need I mention it's a vicious cycle: sugar makes you crave more sugar.
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/HealthyEating/Nutrition/Added-Sugars_UCM_305858_Article.jsp#.WrpaINUrK70
Soda is bad for you, and anyone who tells you otherwise is selling you something- literally!
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/11/opinion/sugar-industry-health.html
There have been so many documentaries and studies done to prove just how bad sugar and processed foods are for your body, soda being one of the worst culprits. I recommend watching any of the following documentaries:
SuperSize Me (*if you watch nothing else, at least try to watch this one.... you would be amazed!)
Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead
Fed Up (one of my favorites!)
Forks Over Knives
Hungry For Change
Food Matters
Vegucated
While I'm not saying that you should become a vegetarian or whatnot (unless you want to), the point to all these documentaries is how much sugar is in processed foods- especially soda- and the horrible things it does to your body.
And I'm living proof of this:
Before I began my weight loss journey, I would go through TWO cases of regular soda PER WEEK!!! NOT GOOD!!!
I was morbidly obese, weighed a whopping 355 pounds, constantly exhausted and sick all the time (I would get the flu every six months like clockwork!) and in/out of doctors' offices because of various ailments. Soda was one of the worst of my bad habits, not to mention the junk food that came along with it and then not exercising on top of it all. When I decided to lose weight, the first thing that went was soda. I phased it out slowly- first by replacing it with a healthier alternative at dinner (something like milk, unsweetened iced tea, water or seltzer if I *really* needed something carbonated). After a while I craved it less and less and within a month, I no longer wanted it. My skin cleared up, my bloating went away, my stomach cramps and nausea went away, I had more energy and less sugar cravings. I also lost about 25 pounds in those first couple of weeks because soda makes you bloated.
(https://www.livestrong.com/article/413719-does-diet-soda-cause-bloating-water-weight-gain/)
This is a very long-winded response for which I apologize, but this is a topic I feel strongly about because of personal experience and the knowledge I have gained from it. I implore and encourage you to cut soda from your life, or at least cut back- for your health.
Again, the choice is yours.19 -
Kimmotion5783 wrote: »Just my opinion, although I hope you heed my advice (warning?) but of course the choice is always up to you...
Soda- even diet soda- is bad for you. It's not water. It might have water in it, but it's not straight-up, good-for-you, pure water. Your body NEEDS pure water. My suggestion (take it or leave it) is to ditch soda and drink good old fashioned water. Your body will thank you. If you don't believe me, try it for one week and see how you feel.
Why I say this:
Soda is just horrible for your health, even diet soda. Soda has TONS of sweeteners in it (corn syrup, sugar in regular soda, and artificial sweeteners in "diet"). One can of regular coke contains 39 grams of sugar. The American Heart Association recommends limiting sugar intake to 37.5 grams a day for men, 25 grams a day for women. So one can of coke puts you over your limit for sugar for the day (and that's if you have NOTHING ELSE for that day, carbs included!) This puts you at greater risk for disease and does damage to your body. Need I mention it's a vicious cycle: sugar makes you crave more sugar.
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/HealthyEating/Nutrition/Added-Sugars_UCM_305858_Article.jsp#.WrpaINUrK70
Soda is bad for you, and anyone who tells you otherwise is selling you something- literally!
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/11/opinion/sugar-industry-health.html
There have been so many documentaries and studies done to prove just how bad sugar and processed foods are for your body, soda being one of the worst culprits. I recommend watching any of the following documentaries:
SuperSize Me (*if you watch nothing else, at least try to watch this one.... you would be amazed!)
Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead
Fed Up (one of my favorites!)
Forks Over Knives
Hungry For Change
Food Matters
Vegucated
While I'm not saying that you should become a vegetarian or whatnot (unless you want to), the point to all these documentaries is how much sugar is in processed foods- especially soda- and the horrible things it does to your body.
And I'm living proof of this:
Before I began my weight loss journey, I would go through TWO cases of regular soda PER WEEK!!! NOT GOOD!!!
I was morbidly obese, weighed a whopping 355 pounds, constantly exhausted and sick all the time (I would get the flu every six months like clockwork!) and in/out of doctors' offices because of various ailments. Soda was one of the worst of my bad habits, not to mention the junk food that came along with it and then not exercising on top of it all. When I decided to lose weight, the first thing that went was soda. I phased it out slowly- first by replacing it with a healthier alternative at dinner (something like milk, unsweetened iced tea, water or seltzer if I *really* needed something carbonated). After a while I craved it less and less and within a month, I no longer wanted it. My skin cleared up, my bloating went away, my stomach cramps and nausea went away, I had more energy and less sugar cravings. I also lost about 25 pounds in those first couple of weeks because soda makes you bloated.
(https://www.livestrong.com/article/413719-does-diet-soda-cause-bloating-water-weight-gain/)
This is a very long-winded response for which I apologize, but this is a topic I feel strongly about because of personal experience and the knowledge I have gained from it. I implore and encourage you to cut soda from your life, or at least cut back- for your health.
Again, the choice is yours.
Yes, calories from regular soda are bad. Drinking unnecessary calories is bad.
Spreading FUD and misinformation about artificial sweeteners and conflating diet and regular soda is also bad.
Start here
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p17 -
Soda makes you bloated. There may be a chance some people react to some ingredients in some things (not limited to soda). I have no bloating problems at all with soda.
It's interesting how everyone's skin clears up and bloating goes away whenever they do something they believe benefits them. It strikes me as odd. So far, people had clearer skin after: quitting sugar, quitting soda, quitting fast food, quitting meat, quitting carbs, quitting dairy, quitting artificial sweeteners, going vegan, going meat based, fasting, drinking ACV, drinking green tea, drinking homeopathic water, taking epsom salt baths, taking probiotics, and I could go on forever. I wish my skin and bloating were that responsive to whatever I convince myself is good for me. I've experimented with quite a few things in my dieting and never noticed any difference in my skin. Perhaps I should start drinking ACV and lemon.4 -
luce_de_luce wrote: »On the topic of logging diet soda, do those calories add up? I realize there are 0 calories per serving, but if I drank an entire 2 liter bottle of Diet Coke that would be a significant number of calories, wouldn’t it? I’ve had no luck trying to figure this out.
There is something like 3 calories in a 12 oz can of soda. A liter is ~32oz so 2 liters is 64oz which is the equivalent of ~5 cans of soda. So 2 liters would have something like 15 calories in it. That is the equivalent of like two almonds. I wouldn't call that "significant".
Of all the things you eat and drink you could be paying attention to for weight loss I'd say diet soda is likely the least important.4 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Kimmotion5783 wrote: »Just my opinion, although I hope you heed my advice (warning?) but of course the choice is always up to you...
Soda- even diet soda- is bad for you. It's not water. It might have water in it, but it's not straight-up, good-for-you, pure water. Your body NEEDS pure water. My suggestion (take it or leave it) is to ditch soda and drink good old fashioned water. Your body will thank you. If you don't believe me, try it for one week and see how you feel.
Why I say this:
Soda is just horrible for your health, even diet soda. Soda has TONS of sweeteners in it (corn syrup, sugar in regular soda, and artificial sweeteners in "diet"). One can of regular coke contains 39 grams of sugar. The American Heart Association recommends limiting sugar intake to 37.5 grams a day for men, 25 grams a day for women. So one can of coke puts you over your limit for sugar for the day (and that's if you have NOTHING ELSE for that day, carbs included!) This puts you at greater risk for disease and does damage to your body. Need I mention it's a vicious cycle: sugar makes you crave more sugar.
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/HealthyEating/Nutrition/Added-Sugars_UCM_305858_Article.jsp#.WrpaINUrK70
Soda is bad for you, and anyone who tells you otherwise is selling you something- literally!
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/11/opinion/sugar-industry-health.html
There have been so many documentaries and studies done to prove just how bad sugar and processed foods are for your body, soda being one of the worst culprits. I recommend watching any of the following documentaries:
SuperSize Me (*if you watch nothing else, at least try to watch this one.... you would be amazed!)
Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead
Fed Up (one of my favorites!)
Forks Over Knives
Hungry For Change
Food Matters
Vegucated
While I'm not saying that you should become a vegetarian or whatnot (unless you want to), the point to all these documentaries is how much sugar is in processed foods- especially soda- and the horrible things it does to your body.
And I'm living proof of this:
Before I began my weight loss journey, I would go through TWO cases of regular soda PER WEEK!!! NOT GOOD!!!
I was morbidly obese, weighed a whopping 355 pounds, constantly exhausted and sick all the time (I would get the flu every six months like clockwork!) and in/out of doctors' offices because of various ailments. Soda was one of the worst of my bad habits, not to mention the junk food that came along with it and then not exercising on top of it all. When I decided to lose weight, the first thing that went was soda. I phased it out slowly- first by replacing it with a healthier alternative at dinner (something like milk, unsweetened iced tea, water or seltzer if I *really* needed something carbonated). After a while I craved it less and less and within a month, I no longer wanted it. My skin cleared up, my bloating went away, my stomach cramps and nausea went away, I had more energy and less sugar cravings. I also lost about 25 pounds in those first couple of weeks because soda makes you bloated.
(https://www.livestrong.com/article/413719-does-diet-soda-cause-bloating-water-weight-gain/)
This is a very long-winded response for which I apologize, but this is a topic I feel strongly about because of personal experience and the knowledge I have gained from it. I implore and encourage you to cut soda from your life, or at least cut back- for your health.
Again, the choice is yours.
Yes, calories from regular soda are bad. Drinking unnecessary calories is bad.
Spreading FUD and misinformation about artificial sweeteners and conflating diet and regular soda is also bad.
Start here
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
I knew we would have to link back to that thread again.
So sad that this scaremongering keeps coming up again and again. It's is so sad that basic science isn't enough to counter the crap in social media these days. We have access to all sorts of good information, but it gets drowned out by crap sources.
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Kimmotion5783 wrote: »Just my opinion, although I hope you heed my advice (warning?) but of course the choice is always up to you...
Soda- even diet soda- is bad for you. It's not water. It might have water in it, but it's not straight-up, good-for-you, pure water. Your body NEEDS pure water. My suggestion (take it or leave it) is to ditch soda and drink good old fashioned water. Your body will thank you. If you don't believe me, try it for one week and see how you feel.
Why I say this:
Soda is just horrible for your health, even diet soda. Soda has TONS of sweeteners in it (corn syrup, sugar in regular soda, and artificial sweeteners in "diet"). One can of regular coke contains 39 grams of sugar. The American Heart Association recommends limiting sugar intake to 37.5 grams a day for men, 25 grams a day for women. So one can of coke puts you over your limit for sugar for the day (and that's if you have NOTHING ELSE for that day, carbs included!) This puts you at greater risk for disease and does damage to your body. Need I mention it's a vicious cycle: sugar makes you crave more sugar.
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/HealthyEating/Nutrition/Added-Sugars_UCM_305858_Article.jsp#.WrpaINUrK70
Soda is bad for you, and anyone who tells you otherwise is selling you something- literally!
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/11/opinion/sugar-industry-health.html
There have been so many documentaries and studies done to prove just how bad sugar and processed foods are for your body, soda being one of the worst culprits. I recommend watching any of the following documentaries:
SuperSize Me (*if you watch nothing else, at least try to watch this one.... you would be amazed!)
Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead
Fed Up (one of my favorites!)
Forks Over Knives
Hungry For Change
Food Matters
Vegucated
While I'm not saying that you should become a vegetarian or whatnot (unless you want to), the point to all these documentaries is how much sugar is in processed foods- especially soda- and the horrible things it does to your body.
And I'm living proof of this:
Before I began my weight loss journey, I would go through TWO cases of regular soda PER WEEK!!! NOT GOOD!!!
I was morbidly obese, weighed a whopping 355 pounds, constantly exhausted and sick all the time (I would get the flu every six months like clockwork!) and in/out of doctors' offices because of various ailments. Soda was one of the worst of my bad habits, not to mention the junk food that came along with it and then not exercising on top of it all. When I decided to lose weight, the first thing that went was soda. I phased it out slowly- first by replacing it with a healthier alternative at dinner (something like milk, unsweetened iced tea, water or seltzer if I *really* needed something carbonated). After a while I craved it less and less and within a month, I no longer wanted it. My skin cleared up, my bloating went away, my stomach cramps and nausea went away, I had more energy and less sugar cravings. I also lost about 25 pounds in those first couple of weeks because soda makes you bloated.
(https://www.livestrong.com/article/413719-does-diet-soda-cause-bloating-water-weight-gain/)
This is a very long-winded response for which I apologize, but this is a topic I feel strongly about because of personal experience and the knowledge I have gained from it. I implore and encourage you to cut soda from your life, or at least cut back- for your health.
Again, the choice is yours.
You lost 25 pounds in the first couple of weeks because you weighed 355lbs.
Talk to just about anyone who started out morbidly obese, and regardless of the means, they lost a significant amount of weight in the first month. I lost 20 at 270 in the first month just by paying attention to what I ate. I didn't even change anything but the amount.4 -
Kimmotion5783 wrote: »Just my opinion, although I hope you heed my advice (warning?) but of course the choice is always up to you...
Soda- even diet soda- is bad for you. It's not water. It might have water in it, but it's not straight-up, good-for-you, pure water. Your body NEEDS pure water. My suggestion (take it or leave it) is to ditch soda and drink good old fashioned water. Your body will thank you. If you don't believe me, try it for one week and see how you feel.
Why I say this:
Soda is just horrible for your health, even diet soda. Soda has TONS of sweeteners in it (corn syrup, sugar in regular soda, and artificial sweeteners in "diet"). One can of regular coke contains 39 grams of sugar. The American Heart Association recommends limiting sugar intake to 37.5 grams a day for men, 25 grams a day for women. So one can of coke puts you over your limit for sugar for the day (and that's if you have NOTHING ELSE for that day, carbs included!) This puts you at greater risk for disease and does damage to your body. Need I mention it's a vicious cycle: sugar makes you crave more sugar.
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/HealthyEating/Nutrition/Added-Sugars_UCM_305858_Article.jsp#.WrpaINUrK70
Soda is bad for you, and anyone who tells you otherwise is selling you something- literally!
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/11/opinion/sugar-industry-health.html
There have been so many documentaries and studies done to prove just how bad sugar and processed foods are for your body, soda being one of the worst culprits. I recommend watching any of the following documentaries:
SuperSize Me (*if you watch nothing else, at least try to watch this one.... you would be amazed!)
Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead
Fed Up (one of my favorites!)
Forks Over Knives
Hungry For Change
Food Matters
Vegucated
While I'm not saying that you should become a vegetarian or whatnot (unless you want to), the point to all these documentaries is how much sugar is in processed foods- especially soda- and the horrible things it does to your body.
And I'm living proof of this:
Before I began my weight loss journey, I would go through TWO cases of regular soda PER WEEK!!! NOT GOOD!!!
I was morbidly obese, weighed a whopping 355 pounds, constantly exhausted and sick all the time (I would get the flu every six months like clockwork!) and in/out of doctors' offices because of various ailments. Soda was one of the worst of my bad habits, not to mention the junk food that came along with it and then not exercising on top of it all. When I decided to lose weight, the first thing that went was soda. I phased it out slowly- first by replacing it with a healthier alternative at dinner (something like milk, unsweetened iced tea, water or seltzer if I *really* needed something carbonated). After a while I craved it less and less and within a month, I no longer wanted it. My skin cleared up, my bloating went away, my stomach cramps and nausea went away, I had more energy and less sugar cravings. I also lost about 25 pounds in those first couple of weeks because soda makes you bloated.
(https://www.livestrong.com/article/413719-does-diet-soda-cause-bloating-water-weight-gain/)
This is a very long-winded response for which I apologize, but this is a topic I feel strongly about because of personal experience and the knowledge I have gained from it. I implore and encourage you to cut soda from your life, or at least cut back- for your health.
Again, the choice is yours.
So ignoring all the fearmongering and woo about fake Netflix 'documentaries' (of which all the ones listed are biased, agenda-driven, pseudoscientific hack jobs), the takeaway points from the above post are:
1) Obesity is bad for your health and can manifest itself in various symptoms/ailments.
2) Context and dosage matter in your diet.
Nobody in this thread, or in any thread ever about soda/sugar intake, has ever advocated/defended that level of intake or claimed that it was healthy. Two cases of soda per week is a ridiculously high level of consumption - both calorie-wise and also in the amount of sugar. That's 7-8 sodas per day, every day. Top that off with a steady diet of junk food and morbid obesity, and it doesn't take a genius to predict the outcome.
It's easy to formulate an argument against almost anything by taking it to ridiculous levels and then saying that if two cases per week of soda is bad, drinking an occasional soda must be bad too, because soda. That's not how it works.
You can die from drinking too much water at once. So using the above context, one could take the position that water is bad for you too and you should cut it entirely out of your diet.4 -
I’m a Diet Coke addict. I don’t understand how diet soda can count as water. When I drink it it makes me sooo dehydrated, I suppose if you drank seven glasses of water and one 12 oz can of soda you could count it as water. Definitely not the other way around though.
How about caffeine free diet coke? Caffeine is a diuretic.5
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