Difference in satisfaction

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  • RecognitionT
    RecognitionT Posts: 120 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    amusedmonkey wrote: »
    MichSmish wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    amusedmonkey wrote: »
    Satiety fascinates me. Some of it may be physical and related to macros, but some of it feels mental or even outright arbitrary. It has so many nuances I have yet to understand despite doing this for a very long time.
    - If I have eggs and sausage, I'm guaranteed to be hungry. Remove the sausage and add bread, and I'm full. Add a bit of cheese, just a little bit, and I'm super full.
    - Two meals with the same carb, protein and fat levels, one has potatoes and one doesn't, the meal with potatoes wins hands down.
    - Oats cooked with water and peanut butter leave me hungry despite having comparable macros to oats cooked with milk and a bit of butter which leave me full for hours.
    - A ton of vegetables roasted with oil makes me full in the stomach but hungry in my head. Half the said ton + grains and less oil for the same calories, and I'm full all day.
    - A soup with no oil leaves me hungry. Add a teaspoon of oil to saute onions before making the soup, just a teaspoon and nothing else different, and it transforms into an entirely different beast. More oil doesn't make any difference.
    - I need over a thousand calories of kebab to feel full. Add bread, and I'm full for 600.
    - Any meal that doesn't end with a tomato is not over and I'm not satisfied until I have my tomato.

    ITA! I think folks who try to generalize satiety are barking up the wrong tree. There are all kinds of physical and psychological factors, as well as preconceived assumptions and lifestyle factors. To me it's one of the great things about logging! You can see the components of each meal and start to see your own personal satiety responses.

    What does ITA mean?

    I believe it means "I totally agree". Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Yes, you are correct. All the kids are using it nowadays :lol:

    Really? I think I'm still considered a kid. Never heard it in my life.
  • babysaffy
    babysaffy Posts: 232 Member
    I've noticed that if I eat a carb rich breakfast I'll overeat all day and crave junk carbs late in the day. It finally clicked with me last week- I had my lightbulb moment so I'm sticking to high protein which can keep me full for hours and reduce snacking all day.

    I can't believe it's taken me so long to figure out but glad I can at least help myself reduce the likelihood of going over calories now.
  • swebb1103
    swebb1103 Posts: 200 Member
    I have an egg, turkey sausage, and toast every day. Anything else and I am starving by 9am (I eat around 6). At night, if my meal is lean proteim, like a chicken breast, I do not need a bedtime snack. Anything else and I am raiding the fridge before going to bed. Protein keeps me full no matter what time of day.
  • Chunkahlunkah
    Chunkahlunkah Posts: 373 Member
    edited March 2018
    RecognitionT wrote: »
    I find it strange and am interested in whether you have similar experiences.

    Yes.

    My first meal of the day is when the macro makeup of what I'm eating has the largest impact on my appetite afterwards. A high carb, low to moderate fiber breakfast leaves me with a bigger appetite for the whole day. It easily adds ~500 calories to my day when eating according to hunger cues.

    I can do well with a large amount of carbs in the morning so long as they're very high fiber carbs and the meal also includes a decent amount of protein (20 grams+). That impacts my appetite for the day almost as well as if I ate low carb.
  • lightenup2016
    lightenup2016 Posts: 1,055 Member
    edited March 2018
    amusedmonkey wrote: »
    Satiety fascinates me. Some of it may be physical and related to macros, but some of it feels mental or even outright arbitrary. It has so many nuances I have yet to understand despite doing this for a very long time.
    - If I have eggs and sausage, I'm guaranteed to be hungry. Remove the sausage and add bread, and I'm full. Add a bit of cheese, just a little bit, and I'm super full.
    - Two meals with the same carb, protein and fat levels, one has potatoes and one doesn't, the meal with potatoes wins hands down.
    - Oats cooked with water and peanut butter leave me hungry despite having comparable macros to oats cooked with milk and a bit of butter which leave me full for hours.
    - A ton of vegetables roasted with oil makes me full in the stomach but hungry in my head. Half the said ton + grains and less oil for the same calories, and I'm full all day.
    - A soup with no oil leaves me hungry. Add a teaspoon of oil to saute onions before making the soup, just a teaspoon and nothing else different, and it transforms into an entirely different beast. More oil doesn't make any difference.
    - I need over a thousand calories of kebab to feel full. Add bread, and I'm full for 600.
    - Any meal that doesn't end with a tomato is not over and I'm not satisfied until I have my tomato.

    First, lol at the finishing tomato! :lol:

    Protein, fat, and a little carb fills me up pretty well. Something like two eggs and a little cheese in a tortilla, or even half a tortilla, and I'm good for a while. Eggs and just protein in general do seem to work for me. But sometimes I can be filled up with a small serving of pasta and a vegetable on the side.

    I also find it interesting how hormones can affect appetite and satiety. In the week after TOM, I get full very easily, but in the week leading up to it, the same filling foods leave me just wanting more and more. In fact, this past week I was on the last "PMS appetite" day. I couldn't get enough of the tortilla chips we had at home, and kept stuffing them in my mouth. I was thinking, boy, I'm not getting full when is this crazy appetite going to go down? Then about an hour later, I couldn't move I was so full! I feel like that was when my hormones changed such that I felt the satiety much easier. The next day I was back to my normal appetite.
  • HoneyBadger302
    HoneyBadger302 Posts: 2,073 Member
    On workout days I always have my protein shake with a banana and some frozen berries, then my coffee at work. That generally carries me through to lunch. On weekends, I'm more likely to have a bowl of granola with some almond milk and my coffee.

    Either way, I'm not getting much past lunch before I'm ready to gnaw an arm off. Eggs vs the granola doesn't seem to make any difference, although I did find oatmeal plus eggs can stick with me pretty well - but is usually more work than I'm willing to put in (just not a big breakfast person).
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