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Apricot seeds and omega 3-6-9 is fat, so track the calories in those, but unless you are taking LOTS, it can't be blamed for a 2lbs gain....Normal water weigh fluctuations probably.....

TavistockToad wrote: »

3furballs wrote: »

Hi there, I've recently added supplements to my smoothie and wondered if its normal to gain a bit of weight and if I will lose it? I've added the following: collagen, apricot seeds, maca root, turmeric, cinnamon, spiralina/chlorella, vitamin d, vitamin b and liquid glucosamine. I've also started taking omega 3-6-9, though I keep forget to take it three times a day.

I'm usually weighing 137ish, with a goal of 135, but I'm now at 139. Just wondering if its water weight perhaps?

Just out of interest, what do all those things do?

Not the OP, but I take a number of those to deal with various chronic pain/soreness because I cannot take traditional Cox1/2 NSAIDS as they aggravate my reflux to the point of making sleep dangerous due to inability to swallow.

3furballs wrote: »

Here is what I've learned so far: collagen - general metabolism and help with loss of collagen as we age, apricot seeds - cancer fighter, maca - metabolism booster and helps with menopause symptoms, tumeric - anti-inflammatory, cinnamon - general health and yummy, glucosamine - joint health, spirulina/chlorella - cancer fighter, MCT oil - metabolism booster, vitamin d - immune system (I live in Canada and work indoors so not getting much sunlight) and vitamin B - something our bodies don't absorb as well from food as we age.

Bolded are more or less nonsense.

See Examine.com for specifics.

astrampe wrote: »

Apricot seeds and omega 3-6-9 is fat, so track the calories in those, but unless you are taking LOTS, it can't be blamed for a 2lbs gain....Normal water weigh fluctuations probably.....

Agreed

I take a lot of supplements daily and I have not seen an increase in my weight as a result. What I do see though is an increase if I eat certain foods like pasta, or pretzels. Those foods make me retain big time. However, if I have brown rice instead of pasta, I don't see any of that. A book by Dr. Pamela Peeke, M.D., MPH, suggests that each person can have a different response to various foods. After reading her book "Fight Fat After Forty," I have started to pay more attention to which foods make me bloat, and try to reduce how much of those foods that I eat. It is very interesting.

Yes, that's precisely what I think (and I don't expect it to be a popular view). If you google glycine, glyphosate displacement, you will see what I'm talking about. Turns out that Glyphosate is very similar (it's a synthetic amino) to Glycine and some believe that it's displacing glycine in animal proteins and becoming actually part of the makeup of the protein tissue - Anthony Samsel from MIT -- former farmer and now Monsanto's worst nightmare. Even the Monsanto paid trolls give up arguing with this guy. He absolutely destroys them.

He's broken down animal tissues/muscles with industrial enzymes and when you break it down so far, you don't completely get it down to the molecular structures when there's still bones/cartilage, tougher animal tissues. What he's found in a lab, though, is if you continue to break down animal tissue (especially when you get down to the bone and parts of the animal that are typically high in glycine), you release a surprising amount of Glyphosate instead. They've essentially proven that glyphosate takes the place of glycine in animals and becomes a very dysfunctional protein.

I'm not really 100% holistic and certainly not 100% traditional in my views either, but there's a ton of Holistic folks out there (like Dr Axe) telling people to guzzle Bone Broth, Gelatin and Collagen. If Samsel is right (and I tend to think he is personally), then taking in all these things is not only bad advice, it's actually potentially dangerous for your health.

My basic point, though, is that eating Collagen probably isn't as effective as absorbable silica in the body producing its own Collagen. Eating collagen doesn't necessarily produce the optimal amount of collagen in the body. Studies have demonstrated how effective that Silica can be. Read reviews on BioSil if you don't believe me from women that are astonished how well Organic Silica works for nails/hair. I don't think BioSil is necessary (it's a very expensive supplement) when you can get a ton of very absorbable silica from green beans.

@ Anvil, I get labeled a "fear mongerer" a lot. Hardly the case. I'm very cynical of both Holistic people and traditional folks too. I do my own research many times and just weigh the evidence. I'm also a consultant to start-ups in the Venture Capital world, many of them highly technical (way over my head as I'm certainly not a scientist). All I can tell you is that there are billions and billions of dollars being spent by large pharmaceutical companies that have figured out the path to curing most of man's diseases are in changing the microbiome. Call it anything you like but it's a revolution in pharmaceuticals that is occuring today. In the first quarter, 2018, more has been spent on pharmaceutical/therapeutic start-ups than in the past 5 years combined. Most are doing a lot of the same things - how to manipulate the microbiome in order to prevent/cure disease.

Science just had an article (one prominent VC head posted it on Linkedin) about how they tested 1000 prescription drugs and many of them that were not antibiotics wreaked havoc on the composition of the natural state of the microbiome, now being called by most biologists as the "newest organ". The argument that Monsanto long held is the animal (and humans) would just pee out Round-Up. What they didn't consider was what all the bacteria/fungi inside the human body (microbiome) would do with these chemicals. No matter what the government says, they still don't fully know. Anthony Samsel, the guy I mentioned above, found out through the Freedom of Information Act that Monsanto once took out a patent on Round-Up as a potential antibiotic! If it doesn't affect your stomach/microbiome, why did they take out a patent on it as a potential antiobiotic? This isn't fear mongering or crazy stuff. It's just reality (and now science).