Anyone abstained from favourite foods for a while?
passenger79
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First of all I am not trying to do any fad diets and I'm all for to just eat what I want but less of it but I'm struggling with this lately .
I 've lost 10 lb with 16lbs to go . My mood has been up and down alot while adjusting to new meds for Bipolar and atm I'm adjusting to Pregablin which is making me drowsy and hungry . I start day ok but have started having binges where I devour anything sweet in the house and just have no self control.
I know that I am responsible for what I eat but I am struggling not to have 1,2 snacks which then turns into 10.
So has anyone conciecly decided not to have foods around that makes them want to binge for a while ? I'm thinking of staying away from them until my mood is on a bit more even keel and just make an effort to eat a bit healthier in the meantime . I 've spent around 500 cal yesterday on chocolate and sweets and that was BEFORE I had a massive binge so want to try to replace it with more fruit and veg.
Again not blaming meds for anything just explaining my circumstances.
I really want to lose rest of my weight ,Im set to lose pound a week so not too aggressive.
I 've lost 10 lb with 16lbs to go . My mood has been up and down alot while adjusting to new meds for Bipolar and atm I'm adjusting to Pregablin which is making me drowsy and hungry . I start day ok but have started having binges where I devour anything sweet in the house and just have no self control.
I know that I am responsible for what I eat but I am struggling not to have 1,2 snacks which then turns into 10.
So has anyone conciecly decided not to have foods around that makes them want to binge for a while ? I'm thinking of staying away from them until my mood is on a bit more even keel and just make an effort to eat a bit healthier in the meantime . I 've spent around 500 cal yesterday on chocolate and sweets and that was BEFORE I had a massive binge so want to try to replace it with more fruit and veg.
Again not blaming meds for anything just explaining my circumstances.
I really want to lose rest of my weight ,Im set to lose pound a week so not too aggressive.
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I think it’s good not to have the foods in the house you crave that’s what I do. If it’s not there you can’t eat it right.
And if you want to replace them with fruits and veggies you should opt for the veggies because all fruits turn to sugars which may make you crave them more14 -
Temporarily abstaining isn't always a bad idea, especially if you have a plan. I'd say go for it, and make sure you have a plan of how and when you want to re-introduce those things.5
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Not just for a while, but for good. I'm not exactly abstaining, in the sense that if I really want something I have it, but I just don't have things I tend to overeat lying around where I can see them. I either have them well-hidden or don't buy them until I want them enough. There is nothing wrong at all with giving yourself the best chance of sticking to your diet with the least level of stress achievable. Not having foods taunting me is part of that strategy. I don't feel deprived because I can always walk to the store for a single serving of something if I really really want it. If I want another serving, tough luck, I'll have to walk to the store again. Usually I'm too lazy to do it and the snack doesn't feel worth the extra effort so the craving subsides.
Even complete temporary (or even permanent) abstinence is fine, as long as you know why you're doing this and have a game plan. It's the abstinence based on fear of food and a feeling of deprivation that usually backfires. Abstinence with sound reasoning is usually fine.11 -
I don't abstain as such, but there are several foods, that I don't buy in to the house, if I eat them, I eat them when dining out or at a friends, because there are some that I have yet to be able to moderate, like fresh bread, if it's at home you be(u)tter believe the whole thing is being eaten.9
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I had to go on keto in order to lose, so in a word: yes.
Everybody is different. The mathematics of calories are the same for all of us, but the psychology of eating is our own. When people say “You can lose weight eating all of your favorite foods” they tend to mean that they can, which is fantastic. Technically I should be able to, as well, but I’m terrible at moderation, and I can keep banging my head against the same wall trying to “get it,” or I can acknowledge that and do something else.
So I changed to a more restrictive way of eating, and I’ve never felt more free. I’m not ruled by whatever is lurking in my cabinets. I’m not locked in a cycle of binge/regret. I spend zero time feeling guilty or ashamed of my food choices, and I’ve discovered new enjoyment in whole bunch of foods that were never really much on my radar before.
There are no prizes for making things harder on ourselves.8 -
Mine wasn't a food....it was Mtn Dew. I could easily drink over two liters a day and found "cutting back" just didn't work. So I cut it out cold turkey for over a year. Now I drink it if I go out to eat or am in a situation where I will have access to only a limited amount.1
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nope, because i know if i really want something - not having it in the house isn't going to do anything - i'll go to the store and get it.
for me, I plan those foods i normally binge on into my daily calorie count - if i've alloted myself 2 pieces of chocolate, then i'm less likely to keep eating because i can see how it fits etc1 -
I went with the special occasion model for some of my favorite high calorie foods rather than keeping them in the house. Popcorn and soda I only get at the movies, breakfast sandwiches when I donate blood, and white wine when I’m eating out or going to a friend’s. I think you have to experiment and see what works. I love love love popcorn and tried a bunch of options before settling on keeping it out of the house. I do sometimes pick up a single serving bag, but only if I have the calories to eat the entire thing that day.
I believe that willpower is about making it as easy as possible to do whatever you’re trying to do. There’s nothing wrong with that. Just don’t set yourself up for failure by making yourself suffer, and don’t be too hard on yourself when the inevitable setbacks occur.6 -
Thanks everyone it's good to see everyone's experiences. I think I have been making it hard on myself because at this stage I am really struggling with moderation and binges have been occurring alot more.
I don't want to put weight back that I lost so will just not keep stuff in the house that I binge on until I feel better and more in control .
If I'm really desperate for something I'll walk to the store to get it instead of having unlimited supply in the cupboards.
I have been successful of eating less of it and losing 10lbs but I just can't do it now so will give myself best chance to lose rest of my weight and try and replace my favourites with less calorific stuff.4 -
passenger79 wrote: »Thanks everyone it's good to see everyone's experiences. I think I have been making it hard on myself because at this stage I am really struggling with moderation and binges have been occurring alot more.
I don't want to put weight back that I lost so will just not keep stuff in the house that I binge on until I feel better and more in control .
If I'm really desperate for something I'll walk to the store to get it instead of having unlimited supply in the cupboards.
I have been successful of eating less of it and losing 10lbs but I just can't do it now so will give myself best chance to lose rest of my weight and try and replace my favourites with less calorific stuff.
That sounds reasonable to me. I think that people are wary of being overly restrictive while losing weight because that can lead to binging or regaining, but I think that it's possible to avoid those problems while still learning moderation. There are plenty of options in between "never eating X again" or "eating X whenever you want." Play around with it and see what works. And remember that your less calorific substitutes don't have to be carrot sticks and green beans. I mentioned above having to keep popcorn out of the house - I've actually replaced it with jelly beans! I don't have much of a sweet tooth, so 100-150 calories of jelly beans is a perfectly adequate dessert. I'd rather have 500 calories of cheesy popcorn, of course, but that's just not going to work every day.
Good luck!1 -
I don't keep ice cream in the house at the moment... If I do I'll eat all of it2
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I eat my favorites in moderation because in this day and age you can order whatever you want and people bring it to you, you don't even have to leave your house.0
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I don't keep junk food in the house at all. I also withheld any pasta or bread for about 3 months. I have been VERY SLOWLY incorporating healthy amounts of grains, pasta, and breads back into my diet. Of course when I say those terms I mean whole wheats and grains, also things like quinoa and the like. I actually don't miss rice at all, I have been loving riced cauliflower instead.2
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I abstain from a lot of foods I greatly enjoy while trying to lose weight. Well, I mean, if I have the calories, I'll go ahead and have some ice cream once every two weeks or something... but having it every day (with chocolate syrup too!) is a no go.
I find that it is difficult for me to just have one or two small snacks. It turns into a flood of food. So, I simply brush my teeth, floss, rinse, etc. purposely taking plenty of time and care on my teeth and mouth so that I am further encouraged not to eat anymore.
If that doesn't work, I try to turn to the healthiest snacks I can find, like celery sticks, radishes, etc.2 -
This is the time to know your personal limitations. Yours may not be like someone elses.
There is stuff not welcome in my house because of "my" self control issues. No cheetos...cake....fig newtons....stick butter....spam....macaroons and any gummy fruit candy. No no no!!!2 -
Ice cream could sit in my freezer till the ice age returns....not my thing2
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same here as most, there are a few things I just don't buy & a few I only buy when I plan to eat some & tell my husband to eat the rest1
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I totally thing it's fair to not keep stuff around that might lead you down a path you can't stop. I think knowing yourself and your eating habits and triggers are a huge part of being successful.1
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It's absolutely OK to refrain from having certain foods around! Just because you CAN have them in a calorie deficit doesn't mean you should if they are a trigger food. That just sabotages your progress and beats down your willpower even if you think it might be OK this time.
If I'm losing, I cannot buy large containers of ice cream or certain chips & cookies & candies (especially if they're any type of chocolate covered nuts.) I'm still learning this for myself, although i had the epiphany over 5 years ago.
It's weird, but I am perfectly satisfied with 1 or 2 Dove or other individually wrapped dark chocolate square, but if I buy a full bar of the same stuff, I will eat the whole thing. If we walk to the ice cream shoppe a mile away, all I want is a small sugar cone and I have no desire for more. But if I buy a half gallon of sub-par ice cream and stick it in the fridge, it will be gone in a day.
For a recent example, last week after Easter, all the candy went on sale. I bought 3 bags of M&Ms since they can last for a while in our house. One each of Peanut, Milk, & Caramel. I tell myself that "Yes, I'm all better now, I can handle multiple-serving treats without finishing the whole bag!" The Peanut bag (~1750 calories) was gone before the end of the work day. I literally ate myself sick. I made sure that the milk & caramel ones stayed with the family (I've mentally labeled them "NOT MINE"), and since they are all able to take a little at a time, both bags are still there.
I have to constantly remind myself of my own limits and not try to hurt my progress any more. I also need to stop talking myself into doing things that I know that I have not been able to do in the past.
So it's OK to take this time and figure out what your triggers are. Remind yourself that it's not forever, and maybe you just need to find out how to moderate certain things while you're adjusting.
Good luck!4 -
It's absolutely OK to refrain from having certain foods around! Just because you CAN have them in a calorie deficit doesn't mean you should if they are a trigger food. That just sabotages your progress and beats down your willpower even if you think it might be OK this time.
If I'm losing, I cannot buy large containers of ice cream or certain chips & cookies & candies (especially if they're any type of chocolate covered nuts.) I'm still learning this for myself, although i had the epiphany over 5 years ago.
It's weird, but I am perfectly satisfied with 1 or 2 Dove or other individually wrapped dark chocolate square, but if I buy a full bar of the same stuff, I will eat the whole thing. If we walk to the ice cream shoppe a mile away, all I want is a small sugar cone and I have no desire for more. But if I buy a half gallon of sub-par ice cream and stick it in the fridge, it will be gone in a day.
For a recent example, last week after Easter, all the candy went on sale. I bought 3 bags of M&Ms since they can last for a while in our house. One each of Peanut, Milk, & Caramel. I tell myself that "Yes, I'm all better now, I can handle multiple-serving treats without finishing the whole bag!" The Peanut bag (~1750 calories) was gone before the end of the work day. I literally ate myself sick. I made sure that the milk & caramel ones stayed with the family (I've mentally labeled them "NOT MINE"), and since they are all able to take a little at a time, both bags are still there.
I have to constantly remind myself of my own limits and not try to hurt my progress any more. I also need to stop talking myself into doing things that I know that I have not been able to do in the past.
So it's OK to take this time and figure out what your triggers are. Remind yourself that it's not forever, and maybe you just need to find out how to moderate certain things while you're adjusting.
Good luck!
Ah, @Rogstar, you have perfectly described the dilemma of the Completion Compulsion
Since buying bigger is usually cheaper, I had to retrain my brain to think "calories cost per serving" vs "dollars cost per pound", in which one serving = one container, or package.
Funny, one bar of chocolate = 1 serving to my brain, no matter how much it weighs, but I can be satisfied with 50 calories worth of chocolate chips.1 -
Potato chips. They are my absolute favorite and since I'm new to the whole logging and counting thing, I'm trying to get that down before I figure out how to fit potato chips back into my life. I can have one small premium chocolate or a small scoop of really good full fat ice cream and walk away happy - I spent most of last year living in Europe for work and really learned the importance of quality vs quantity, but I'm powerless when it comes to potato chips. Eventually I'll add them back but probably no time soon.1
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There are certain things I just don't keep around, or only buy in single servings. I'm an out of sight, out of mind person. If those things aren't around, I'm generally not tempted to go out and get them, so this is workable for me.3
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tinkerbellang83 wrote: »I don't abstain as such, but there are several foods, that I don't buy in to the house, if I eat them, I eat them when dining out or at a friends, because there are some that I have yet to be able to moderate, like fresh bread, if it's at home you be(u)tter believe the whole thing is being eaten.
Mmmm, butter on homemade bread...yeah, we can't make that at home very often. Same with batches of cookies and brownies. I just enjoyed one big fat brownie at lunch at a friend's house this past weekend. I figured why not enjoy it, because it's too dangerous to make a batch at home.
So yes, I do refrain from buying certain things or making certain things at home, but I might still enjoy it out since I know the amount is limited. Bags of chips at our house--no. A handful of chips on a Cub Scout sponsored campout--sure!0 -
I stay away from peanut butter. I used to binge on it. Unfortunately, my older son will only eat peanut butter sandwiches for lunch, so we always have it in the house but I abstain bc I can't control myself.2
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I do not abstain really from any food. I can have all my favorite foods in the house and eat a little bit and I am good. My problem is when I give myself to loosen up a little I go crazy and I will graze all day. Those are also times when i do not weigh what I eat. As long as i weigh foods at home the reality of the calories keeps me in check,0
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I can't have tortilla chips around.0
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I only discovered my uncontrollable fondness for Nutella after I started trying to lose weight. Nevertheless, it's banned.
During many of my IDGAF days of eating too much of anything at hand, I'd include (since I already didn't care) a sandwich of peanut butter and syrup on bread. That was something I have always regarded as a conspicuously decadent calorie bomb, even back when I was careless and proud of it.
A curious thing happened yesterday. I had recently purchased a cute little expensive jug of maple syrup. I didn't have a plan for it. It was cute.
Anyway, I got home with it and still didn't have a plan.
So, last night I got home and fixed my dinner. I had some asparagus that was getting old so I intended to stir fry some of whatever was at hand in order to hasten the consumption of the asparagus. After finishing supper, I had my usual snacks of a bowl of sugar-free ice cream and a granola bar. I still had nearly 400 calories remaining. It occurred to me that I could probably fit a decadent sandwich into those calories. 11 grams of maple syrup, 20 grams of natural chunky peanut butter, stirred together well and spread on a slice of white bread with another on top costs 344 calories. The curious thing is that I didn't need to proceed from there to eating everything. I finished my diary within my budget and logged a loss this morning.
So, now I have a plan for that expensive little jug of maple syrup.
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