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Villypierr
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Hello everyone, I am in the process of losing weight (need to lose 7 kilos). I have my diet on track. I am training on Kick Boxing 5 years now, the thing is I stopped for a year and a gained weight as all athletes -usually- do, now the question is, I know I have to lift weights too ( never had to lift at the past cause I was thin and had no fat from kickboxing ) and it's not my favourite thing, I am not a fan of it but I will do it I promise
Now, the thing is, I train 5 days a week for 2,5 hours kickboxing in the afternoon(almost night). Should I stop 2 days kickboxing and do lifting? or should I add lifting in the morning and keep up the 5 days kickboxing?
Thank you for your time. cHeeRs!!
Now, the thing is, I train 5 days a week for 2,5 hours kickboxing in the afternoon(almost night). Should I stop 2 days kickboxing and do lifting? or should I add lifting in the morning and keep up the 5 days kickboxing?
Thank you for your time. cHeeRs!!
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You don’t HAVE to lift weights. Do you do any body weight exercises at your kickboxing class?2
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Villypierr wrote: »Hello everyone, I am in the process of losing weight (need to lose 7 kilos). I have my diet on track. I am training on Kick Boxing 5 years now, the thing is I stopped for a year and a gained weight as all athletes -usually- do, now the question is, I know I have to lift weights too ( never had to lift at the past cause I was thin and had no fat from kickboxing ) and it's not my favourite thing, I am not a fan of it but I will do it I promise
Now, the thing is, I train 5 days a week for 2,5 hours kickboxing in the afternoon(almost night). Should I stop 2 days kickboxing and do lifting? or should I add lifting in the morning and keep up the 5 days kickboxing?
Thank you for your time. cHeeRs!!
I'm a proponent of lifting, but you don't "have" to lift weights. I dabbled in martial arts a bit, and there was always body weight stuff.2 -
Usually no. We have a half hour break where I usually do squats and leg exercises. Practice is full cardio at kickboxing... Why do people say that you need to lift to lose faster weight then?0
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Villypierr wrote: »Usually no. We have a half hour break where I usually do squats and leg exercises. Practice is full cardio at kickboxing... Why do people say that you need to lift to lose faster weight then?
I don't know anyone who says that personally.
Losing weight comes down to your calorie deficit...the speed at which you lose weight comes down to the size of your deficit. People lift weights and lose weight, maintain weight, and gain weight. The act of lifting in and of itself is pretty much irrelevant to weight management.
People typically recommend lifting because it preserves muscle mass so that when the individual cuts the fat, they come out the other side with an aesthetic look that a lot of people are going for...ie "toned"8 -
Villypierr wrote: »Usually no. We have a half hour break where I usually do squats and leg exercises. Practice is full cardio at kickboxing... Why do people say that you need to lift to lose faster weight then?
Resistance training (which isn't necessarily lifting) is great for your body. It helps you either build muscle or preserve the muscle you already have and many people find they prefer the way their body looks when they're focusing on some kind of structured plan to work their muscles.
Weight lifting won't necessarily result in faster weight loss (it depends on other factors), but it's still something people are often glad they began doing.6 -
ok, you are all very helpful... so... it's a myth that lifting helps your metabolism go faster?
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Villypierr wrote: »ok, you are all very helpful... so... it's a myth that lifting helps your metabolism go faster?
No, its not a myth, muscle does help increase your metabolism, but so does 2.5 hours of kickboxing 5x a week. I agree with the others its not necessary and if you don't like it, don't do it. Your feelings about lifting is how I feel about doing cardio.3 -
Villypierr wrote: »ok, you are all very helpful... so... it's a myth that lifting helps your metabolism go faster?
Strength training can allow you to build muscle and can increase your resting metabolic rate slightly. However, strength training in a calorie deficit does not build much muscle, your primary focus for strength training during weight loss is to minimize muscle loss while you lose weight.
If you wish to build muscle after weight loss you can choose recomp or bulk/cut cycles.2 -
Villypierr wrote: »ok, you are all very helpful... so... it's a myth that lifting helps your metabolism go faster?
Most strenuous exercise has some degree of EPOC (Excess Post-exercise Oxygen Consumption), but it doesn't amount to near as much as some people think.
A pound of muscle burns about 6 calories per day. A pound of fat burns about 2 calories per day. So you'd have to put on a very significant amount of muscle for it to make much of a difference in your resting metabolic rate. Gaining 25 pounds of muscle, which would be a huge accomplishment, would add up to an extra 150 calories per day (minus 2 calories per day for every pound of fat you lost along the way).9 -
Ok guys, So if I understood correctly from your posts which are very helpful, with simple words: when I lose the weight I need (which can happen only with the kickboxing and no weights ) then If I want to, I will start do lifting so I can make changes in the appearance of the muscle?
Sorry I don't know staff like that, I only hit the bag0 -
Villypierr wrote: »Ok guys, So if I understood correctly from your posts which are very helpful, with simple words: when I lose the weight I need (which can happen only with the kickboxing and no weights ) then If I want to, I will start do lifting so I can make changes in the appearance of the muscle?
Sorry I don't know staff like that, I only hit the bag
I think you've got it.
Your calorie deficit is how you lose fat. Your kickboxing helps you get/stay fit and allows you to burn calories which aides in your weight loss. Your kickboxing is going to be working plenty of your muscles.
Strength train for strength goals, aesthetic goals, etc. and its good for over all health.3 -
you never have to lift unless you want to.
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Villypierr wrote: »Ok guys, So if I understood correctly from your posts which are very helpful, with simple words: when I lose the weight I need (which can happen only with the kickboxing and no weights ) then If I want to, I will start do lifting so I can make changes in the appearance of the muscle?
Sorry I don't know staff like that, I only hit the bag
Yes, but it would be beneficial to you in the long run to maintain your current muscle. Bulking and gaining muscle is a much slower and more difficult task than losing fat is.4 -
Davidsdottir wrote: »Villypierr wrote: »Ok guys, So if I understood correctly from your posts which are very helpful, with simple words: when I lose the weight I need (which can happen only with the kickboxing and no weights ) then If I want to, I will start do lifting so I can make changes in the appearance of the muscle?
Sorry I don't know staff like that, I only hit the bag
Yes, but it would be beneficial to you in the long run to maintain your current muscle. Bulking and gaining muscle is a much slower and more difficult task than losing fat is.
^ Very true. Retaining the muscle you already have is a lot easier than regaining it after you've lost it.9 -
I think I can built muscle too cause I do grappling an BJJ once a week... Its resistance exercise and you lift physically lots of weight,yours and your partner's...0
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If you don't like lifting, you don't need it ever. If you won't be satisfied with the apparence of you body once you lose the weight, starting doing some strenght training will help you build muscle and that will give you a toned look, but I think in kickboxing you will develop muscle, even if you don't focus on it only. If you had a body that you liked with kickboxing only before, then probably it will happen again...3
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@AnvilHead I think your three woo'ers followed you over here.4
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Villypierr wrote: »ok, you are all very helpful... so... it's a myth that lifting helps your metabolism go faster?
Most strenuous exercise has some degree of EPOC (Excess Post-exercise Oxygen Consumption), but it doesn't amount to near as much as some people think.
A pound of muscle burns about 6 calories per day. A pound of fat burns about 2 calories per day. So you'd have to put on a very significant amount of muscle for it to make much of a difference in your resting metabolic rate. Gaining 25 pounds of muscle, which would be a huge accomplishment, would add up to an extra 150 calories per day (minus 2 calories per day for every pound of fat you lost along the way).
Have zero idea why you would get any "woo"s on this. It's spot on....
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If you're serious about the kickboxing(and it seems you are) When you start lifting you'll want programming that will support your training.
@cqbkaju is probably the best person to advise on that subject.
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stanmann571 wrote: »If you're serious about the kickboxing(and it seems you are) When you start lifting you'll want programming that will support your training.
@cqbkaju is probably the best person to advise on that subject.
I was serious few years ago, (and those years never had to do lift after 5 hour practice) now i just train for a hobby.0
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