Could the average joe pull this off in 8 weeks?
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dave_in_ni
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So I came across this article today. https://www.menshealth.com.au/james-stewart-home-and-away-weight-loss-transformation This is James Stewart an Australian soap star.
I have the same sort of build as this guy a "dad bod" I am lighter at 78kg but higher BF at 18% and also younger at 37. I have just started cutting again this week after maintaining my weight for the past 2 years and this article has inspired me. I workout 5 days per week lifting weights on PPL routine. I have been lifting weights for a few years but because of the body fat %, you don't really notice it, a bit like this guy in his before picture.
Could the average Joe pull it off? Obviously, I am already weighing and tracking everything on here, doing all the usual stuff, in a 25% deficit, 0.8/1gram protein etc. I plan on including a couple of HIIT static bike routines, I already get 30 mins per day cardio from walking.
I have the same sort of build as this guy a "dad bod" I am lighter at 78kg but higher BF at 18% and also younger at 37. I have just started cutting again this week after maintaining my weight for the past 2 years and this article has inspired me. I workout 5 days per week lifting weights on PPL routine. I have been lifting weights for a few years but because of the body fat %, you don't really notice it, a bit like this guy in his before picture.
Could the average Joe pull it off? Obviously, I am already weighing and tracking everything on here, doing all the usual stuff, in a 25% deficit, 0.8/1gram protein etc. I plan on including a couple of HIIT static bike routines, I already get 30 mins per day cardio from walking.
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i'm gonna be upfront... i didn't read your whole post i just looked at the guys photos on the article and am responding to your topic question.
yes. This is not an impressive transformation, especially given his "before" physique. Assuming you have as much muscle mass as him and only need to shed body fat i don't see why this would be that difficult.
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If you can afford to take 8 weeks off, Stack test, work out like you're getting paid to, and meal prep like your life depends on it, maybe.1
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rainbowbow wrote: »i'm gonna be upfront... i didn't read your whole post i just looked at the guys photos on the article and am responding to your topic question.
yes. This is not an impressive transformation, especially given his "before" physique. Assuming you have as much muscle mass as him and only need to shed body fat i don't see why this would be that difficult.
Also, make sure that your before picture you slump your shoulders down and forward and push your belly out while relaxing your abs.12 -
stanmann571 wrote: »If you can afford to take 8 weeks off, Stack test, work out like you're getting paid to, and meal prep like your life depends on it, maybe.
tbh though i would expect him to look more impressive if he went on a full stack. his after physique looks identical to about 15 average joes in my local gym. =/0 -
stanmann571 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »i'm gonna be upfront... i didn't read your whole post i just looked at the guys photos on the article and am responding to your topic question.
yes. This is not an impressive transformation, especially given his "before" physique. Assuming you have as much muscle mass as him and only need to shed body fat i don't see why this would be that difficult.
Also, make sure that your before picture you slump your shoulders down and forward and push your belly out while relaxing your abs.
and also have higher exposure so that you have less definition.
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rainbowbow wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »If you can afford to take 8 weeks off, Stack test, work out like you're getting paid to, and meal prep like your life depends on it, maybe.
tbh though i would expect him to look more impressive if he went on a full stack. his after physique looks identical to about 15 average joes in my local gym. =/
Yeah, I went and looked at the article after. No need for test. Probably don't need 8 weeks.0 -
Can I ask what "Stack" is?0
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rainbowbow wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »i'm gonna be upfront... i didn't read your whole post i just looked at the guys photos on the article and am responding to your topic question.
yes. This is not an impressive transformation, especially given his "before" physique. Assuming you have as much muscle mass as him and only need to shed body fat i don't see why this would be that difficult.
Also, make sure that your before picture you slump your shoulders down and forward and push your belly out while relaxing your abs.
and also have higher exposure so that you have less definition.
There's a reddit or a thread here on MFP of folks doing 5 minute transformations with similar physiques. I did a quick search and couldn't find it.1 -
Y'all apparently don't know the same average Joes that I do.
Really sticking to a program for 8 weeks is something most people will fail at completing or won't put enough effort into it to get results. 2 -
I'm sorry if it seems like we're *kitten* on the article you posted OP, i just want to mention that his "transformation" seems to be more about lighting, posture, water manipulation, and moderate fat loss than anything else.
Here's a 10 second transformation to highlight what i'm talking about and why his before/after aren't impressive.
Now if you posted a photo of yourself and set realistic body fat reduction goals based on your own physique it'd be easier to tell you what is/is not reasonable.8 -
stanmann571 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »i'm gonna be upfront... i didn't read your whole post i just looked at the guys photos on the article and am responding to your topic question.
yes. This is not an impressive transformation, especially given his "before" physique. Assuming you have as much muscle mass as him and only need to shed body fat i don't see why this would be that difficult.
Also, make sure that your before picture you slump your shoulders down and forward and push your belly out while relaxing your abs.
and also have higher exposure so that you have less definition.
There's a reddit or a thread here on MFP of folks doing 5 minute transformations with similar physiques. I did a quick search and couldn't find it.
good to know we were on the same page, i was already looking for one of those photos. XD0 -
dave_in_ni wrote: »Can I ask what "Stack" is?
Steroids.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »I'm sorry if it seems like we're *kitten* on the article you posted OP, i just want to mention that his "transformation" seems to be more about lighting, posture, water manipulation, and moderate fat loss than anything else.
Here's a 10 second transformation to highlight what i'm talking about and why his before/after aren't impressive.
Now if you posted a photo of yourself and set realistic body fat reduction goals based on your own physique it'd be easier to tell you what is/is not reasonable.
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OP why are you on a 25% deficit?
You don't have the weight to lose for that steep a deficit?1 -
This is the best before and after explanation ever. When I compare this guy to the guy in the OP article, it looks possible that they used the same technique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M957dACQyfU 9 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »
This is priceless!!!!
eta: he could have gone the baby oil route rather than the PAM spray.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »OP why are you on a 25% deficit?
You don't have the weight to lose for that steep a deficit?
Read about it in an article by Mike Matthews
https://www.muscleforlife.com/rapid-weight-loss/0 -
dave_in_ni wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »OP why are you on a 25% deficit?
You don't have the weight to lose for that steep a deficit?
Read about it in an article by Mike Matthews
https://www.muscleforlife.com/rapid-weight-loss/
I stopped reading when the study used professional athletes...3 -
TavistockToad wrote: »dave_in_ni wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »OP why are you on a 25% deficit?
You don't have the weight to lose for that steep a deficit?
Read about it in an article by Mike Matthews
https://www.muscleforlife.com/rapid-weight-loss/
I stopped reading when the study used professional athletes...
Mikes one of the few guys I trust in health and fitness.0 -
dave_in_ni wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »OP why are you on a 25% deficit?
You don't have the weight to lose for that steep a deficit?
Read about it in an article by Mike Matthews
https://www.muscleforlife.com/rapid-weight-loss/
i agree that 25% is probably too high and unnecessary based on your stats OP. You aren't in prep or something and you've already been at this for several years, right? I don't see any reason you should be doing "rapid weight loss".
my recommendation based on what i'd do in your position: Plan your cut for about a 10-12 week period max (based on your current body fat %). For optimal metabolic adaptation i'd slowly taper down each week until you're max -20% calories before tapering back up. Then re-evaluate where you're at, maintain for a while again, and if needed you can cut again in another 3-6 months or something if you're still not happy with your bodyfat percentage. I would take this process low, slow, and periodized.5
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