Is walking every day enough?

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  • mbaker566
    mbaker566 Posts: 11,233 Member
    Due to my extreme morbid obesity walking is just about all I can do at the moment. I do go to the gym once a week but do not fit onto / into most machines. However I can do water aerobics and it feels good for my joints.

    that's great. if it works for you, keep it up. :smile:
  • spartan_d
    spartan_d Posts: 727 Member
    spartan_d wrote: »
    spartan_d wrote: »
    What the heck is wrong with slow weight loss? Losing too rapidly isn't good for your body or your hunger levels.
    There's a difference between slow and inefficiently slow. One should strive to lose weight at a moderate rate. Walking, however, is a really inefficient way to lose weight in comparison to other forms of exercise.

    "But I lost 60 lbs by walking!" some would say. Good for you, but you could have probably done that more quickly with some full body workouts and some more vigorous forms or cardio --- all without losing weight too rapidly.

    Why would doing it more quickly be better ??
    Why would doing it more inefficiently be better?

    Time is limited and very few people come anywhere close to losing the maximum amount of fat per week. The more quickly you can lose the fat -- within a safe margin, that is -- the better.
    spartan_d wrote: »
    spartan_d wrote: »
    What the heck is wrong with slow weight loss? Losing too rapidly isn't good for your body or your hunger levels.
    There's a difference between slow and inefficiently slow. One should strive to lose weight at a moderate rate. Walking, however, is a really inefficient way to lose weight in comparison to other forms of exercise.

    "But I lost 60 lbs by walking!" some would say. Good for you, but you could have probably done that more quickly with some full body workouts and some more vigorous forms or cardio --- all without losing weight too rapidly.

    Why would doing it more quickly be better ??
    Why would doing it more inefficiently be better?

    Time is limited and very few people come anywhere close to losing the maximum amount of fat per week. The more quickly you can lose the fat -- within a safe margin, that is -- the better.


    I disagree that doing it slowly is doing it inefficiently.

    and I disagree that the more quickly you can lose fat, even within a safe margin, the better.

    Losing weight is a marathon not a sprint - and not a competitive race.
    Of course, it's a marathon. That's why you shouldn't lose weight at an unrealistic, unhealthy pace. At anything short of that though, faster and more efficient is better than slower and less efficient.
    What is better is individual -the way and the pace that suits the individual.
    That is true insofar as personal preferences and limitations are concerned. Some people might really like Zumba and would stick with it longer, for example. That has more to do with one's mindset than any inherent superiority in going slowly though (again, within the constraint that one shouldn't lose weight at an unhealthy pace).

    Or some people might have joint issues that prevent them from doing anything more vigorous. In this case though, it's not a question of losing weight more slowly being better. Rather, this is simply a case wherein one's personal limitations might limit one's options (and even then, there are generally more efficient alternatives, such as low-impact interval training, that provide more bang for the buck than walking alone would).
  • stanmann571
    stanmann571 Posts: 5,727 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    spartan_d wrote: »
    spartan_d wrote: »
    spartan_d wrote: »
    What the heck is wrong with slow weight loss? Losing too rapidly isn't good for your body or your hunger levels.
    There's a difference between slow and inefficiently slow. One should strive to lose weight at a moderate rate. Walking, however, is a really inefficient way to lose weight in comparison to other forms of exercise.

    "But I lost 60 lbs by walking!" some would say. Good for you, but you could have probably done that more quickly with some full body workouts and some more vigorous forms or cardio --- all without losing weight too rapidly.

    Why would doing it more quickly be better ??
    Why would doing it more inefficiently be better?

    Time is limited and very few people come anywhere close to losing the maximum amount of fat per week. The more quickly you can lose the fat -- within a safe margin, that is -- the better.
    spartan_d wrote: »
    spartan_d wrote: »
    What the heck is wrong with slow weight loss? Losing too rapidly isn't good for your body or your hunger levels.
    There's a difference between slow and inefficiently slow. One should strive to lose weight at a moderate rate. Walking, however, is a really inefficient way to lose weight in comparison to other forms of exercise.

    "But I lost 60 lbs by walking!" some would say. Good for you, but you could have probably done that more quickly with some full body workouts and some more vigorous forms or cardio --- all without losing weight too rapidly.

    Why would doing it more quickly be better ??
    Why would doing it more inefficiently be better?

    Time is limited and very few people come anywhere close to losing the maximum amount of fat per week. The more quickly you can lose the fat -- within a safe margin, that is -- the better.


    I disagree that doing it slowly is doing it inefficiently.

    and I disagree that the more quickly you can lose fat, even within a safe margin, the better.

    Losing weight is a marathon not a sprint - and not a competitive race.
    Of course, it's a marathon. That's why you shouldn't lose weight at an unrealistic, unhealthy pace. At anything short of that though, faster and more efficient is better than slower and less efficient.
    What is better is individual -the way and the pace that suits the individual.
    That is true insofar as personal preferences and limitations are concerned. Some people might really like Zumba and would stick with it longer, for example. That has more to do with one's mindset than any inherent superiority in going slowly though (again, within the constraint that one shouldn't lose weight at an unhealthy pace).

    Or some people might have joint issues that prevent them from doing anything more vigorous. In this case though, it's not a question of losing weight more slowly being better. Rather, this is simply a case wherein one's personal limitations might limit one's options (and even then, there are generally more efficient alternatives, such as low-impact interval training, that provide more bang for the buck than walking alone would).

    How about we just say you win the thread? Efficient exercise is always better, and that's what we should all be doing, within any unavoidable constraints of whatever our physical limitations or preferences are. We'll even use your definition of "efficient", where even low impact intervals are clearly better than walking.

    If OP bailed on the thread, I think I understand why.

    Sorry, I should have disengaged sooner.
  • fotogyrl25
    fotogyrl25 Posts: 12 Member
    Walking is great for your psyche and can be an easy way to incorporate some exercise. If your goal is weight loss, as long as you are in a deficit, you will lose weight. It may be slow, but you will lose weight whether you exercise or not.

    I've done walking, weight lifting, running, and tennis. Some are considered better calorie burners than others, but I don't think that is the only thing to think about. In the past, I have often tried to do as much "working out" as possible and did not put a lot of effort into watching what I ate. This did not work for weight loss. I also tore my calf muscle and couldn't do any exercise for months.

    Now that I'm in my 40s, my focus is sustainability. I do not want my life to revolve around the gym like when I was in my 20s. I watch what I eat AND I do exercise I enjoy. I love tennis, so I play tennis year round. I also walk, swim, and sometimes run a little, play with the kids, do squats while making dinner, lift weights while watching my favorite shows.

    So to answer your question, "Is walking enough?" It may be. It depends on your goals.
  • mbaker566
    mbaker566 Posts: 11,233 Member
    it is not more efficient if it is too much and the person gets injured
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  • stanmann571
    stanmann571 Posts: 5,727 Member
    spartan_d wrote: »
    I don't think anyone took offence.
    Disagreeing with you is not taking offence.

    I don't think anyone claimed walking for half hour would burn more calories than running for same time, did they?
    No, which is why I never claimed that anyone said such a thing. Rather, I was disagreeing with stanmann571's claim that the difference is negligible -- "not generally enough to matter," to use his exact words. The difference is substantial, especially when running at higher speeds on a regular basis. Again, the numbers that he cited don't prove his case, for reasons that I already explained.
    Dismissing the numbers out of hand isn't explaining anything.

    If you want to present a different numerical analysis by all means do so.

    But handwaving doesn't help your argument.


  • stanmann571
    stanmann571 Posts: 5,727 Member
    spartan_d wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    spartan_d wrote: »
    spartan_d wrote: »
    What the heck is wrong with slow weight loss? Losing too rapidly isn't good for your body or your hunger levels.
    There's a difference between slow and inefficiently slow. One should strive to lose weight at a moderate rate. Walking, however, is a really inefficient way to lose weight in comparison to other forms of exercise.

    "But I lost 60 lbs by walking!" some would say. Good for you, but you could have probably done that more quickly with some full body workouts and some more vigorous forms or cardio --- all without losing weight too rapidly.

    Why would doing it more quickly be better ??
    Why would doing it more inefficiently be better?

    Time is limited and very few people come anywhere close to losing the maximum amount of fat per week. The more quickly you can lose the fat -- within a safe margin, that is -- the better.

    Doing it more inefficiently would be better if one enjoys walking more than running (or more vigorous cardio, or full body workouts, or whatever).

    If you look closely though, I never said that one HAS to deny themselves activities that they enjoy.

    The question asked was "Why would doing it more quickly be better ??" It's because all other things being equal, more efficient IS better. This is so axiomatically true that it scarcely needs defending. Being less efficient isn't as good. Of course, if somebody is more likely to stick with the less efficient activity - for whatever reason -- then that matters as well.

    The argument that stanmann571 keeps making is that it doesn't matter how quickly you burn the calories, since there's a maximum rate at which one can safely lose weight. This reasoning is positively daft, since the vast majority of people will not lose weight at anywhere near this maximum rate.

    stanmann571 also says that a calorie deficit matters more than exercise. That is true, and dietary changes are indeed more important -- but this does NOT make the exercise aspect insignificant. Not to mention that more vigorous exercise provides a host of other benefits.

    The following quote from the WebMD article that I cited earlier sums it up:

    But a decade after the famous study's release, some researchers argue that we've been sold a bill of goods. "Exercise lite is to exercise what lite beer is to beer. It's pretty bland stuff," says Paul Williams, PhD, an exercise scientist at the Life Sciences Division of the Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory in California. "Exercise lite has given many Americans a false sense that a stroll through the neighborhood is all you need to stay healthy. Instead of pushing people to be more active, it's given them an excuse to do as little as possible."

    What you're not getting is that the difference in calorie burn while real is insignificant. Especially when taking into account that walking at 3.5 mph can be done in street clothes and may not require showering immediately after whereas running at 5 mph will require changing before and showering after.


    https://www.runnersworld.com/nutrition-weight-loss/a20843760/running-v-walking-how-many-calories-will-you-burn/

    hypothetical 200 lb person
    Walk calories per mile-3 miles nets 342 calories in 51 minutes
    .57 x wt in lbs

    Run calories per mile-3 miles nets 432 calories in 36 minutes+ 5 minutes to change+ 10 minutes to shower+5 minutes to dress 56 minutes.
    .72 x wt in lbs

    Here's those numbers again.

    5-6 mph is a pretty conservative pace, as most of the runners I saw at the last 5k I ran finished in the 25-40 minute range.

    The 8 mph from your friends blog is just silly as most recreational/health focused runners aren't running 7 minute miles. They're running 9-12 minute miles or a 5-6 mph pace as in my example.
  • HDBKLM
    HDBKLM Posts: 466 Member
    edited June 2018
    Walking is almost the only exercise I did to lose my first 50 pounds (in about 40 weeks, for reference), so it's totally doable as a weight loss tool. I assume that's the intention of your question, to find out how it is for weight loss as opposed to broader fitness-related goals. I will say, though, that at my current weight I'm starting to think that I might no longer be burning enough calories through walking to compensate for my eating effectively, and am contemplating what else I might incorporate as a supplement since I still have 10–20 pounds to go (depends what I see in the mirror after 10). This has something to do with the fact that I'm a short, relatively sedentary woman, so I don't get a lot of calories even at maintenance. YMMV. So I might venture to say that for some walking is 'enough', as you put it, but only up to a point.
  • CarvedTones
    CarvedTones Posts: 2,340 Member
    My numbers...

    I can walk pretty casually - only sweating if it is really hot - at up to 3.5 mph.
    I can walk briskly to burn more - and will sweat - at up to 4.5 mph. If it isn't a really long walk and it isn't hot, I might get away with just changing shirts after.
    When I used to run (sidelined by knee problems), I ran at 6 mph and always got very sweaty; always required a shower.

    If I were younger I might push it and try to get back to running; the orthopedic surgeon that did my knee said it was possible, but I might be back to see him and he couldn't do anything about the arthritis. Anyway, since I decided it isn't worth the trouble, running isn't an option. Walking is working; it helped keep my burn up wile losing and helped me get pretty fit. I also do some dumbbell rows and paddle SUP, which is as good or better than running in calories per hour but takes much more prep time.
  • mortikarobinette
    mortikarobinette Posts: 20 Member
    So I've only been doing this for a month but I've been happy with my results from just walking. I've lead a very sedentary lifestyle for the past 6 years and walking has been the only thing I could do that I'm not in pain afterwards. So far I've lost 8 pounds.
    I do plan to start some strength planning on the near future but walking is all the cardio I plan on due to my knee.
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