Calories with frying?
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ladyhusker39 wrote: »I'd look up a toasted ravioli entry in the database and just use it.
Have you considered just taking out a portion of frozen un-breaded ravioli for yourself and boiling it or baking it with some sauce? That is probably what I would do if calories were tight.
OP hasn't suggested she doesn't want to eat her son's birthday dinner, just that she's unsure how to calculate the calories. She's not looking for alternatives. There's nothing wrong with what she plans to eat, she just want to know how to calculate it.
You are right that she did not ask specidically about alternatives eating non-fried ravioli.
She asked for suggestions though and I took that to mean "how would you handle this situation". I posted what I might do in that situation. I would use a similar toasted ravioloi entry in the database or just boil some ravioli for me so I can eat some more cake. The recipe I saw uses frozen ravioli that is breaded and fried. Boiling a portion of frozen ravioli is lower calorie, not much work and does not taste bad to me so I thought it a reasonable suggestion to bring up. If it causes her stress and difficulty to fit in this particular food into her day there is an easy option that she could consider.
If the OP really wants to eat the breaded fried ravioli then she certainly can and should.
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Basic breadcrumbs are ~25 calories per tablespoon. Assume one ravioli will use about 10 calories worth. Eggs are 70 calories each. For simplicity, assume that one large egg will coat 7 ravioli. That's another 10 calories. Finally, assume that each ravioli will absorb about a teaspoon of oil. That's ~40 calories.
So, I'd add about 50-60 calories to each ravioli on top of the calories in the pasta and filling and call it done.3 -
How have I lived for almost 36 years and not had fried ravioli?! It sounds delicious!5
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MostlyWater wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »MostlyWater wrote: »Why do you need to know the calories? do you have to eat what he eats? he's the birthday boy, let him have his treat. you eat some boiled ones and call it a day.
OP wrote "it's hard for me to gauge how to eat through the day to help it fit," they're planning on having some too. Why not?
Yes, I saw that. I didn't think it was a big deal but I guess fried foods don't interest me as much as they interest OP.
That's the thing -- we're all interested in different foods. Some of us like fried foods, some of us like to try the foods we cook for special occasions, some of us like to share special meals with loved ones. All of these approaches are absolutely fine -- OP is figuring out how to fit this special meal into her plan.2 -
crazykatlady820 wrote: »How have I lived for almost 36 years and not had fried ravioli?! It sounds delicious!
It's really good.1 -
crazykatlady820 wrote: »How have I lived for almost 36 years and not had fried ravioli?! It sounds delicious!
I've had it as an appetizer at restaurants a few times, and it's rather yummy
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kshama2001 wrote: »I'm making my son's birthday dinner tomorrow and he wants fried ravioli. This is a Pioneer Woman recipe (hello calories!) that involves double breading ravioli and pan frying it in oil. The calories are not just a sum total of the ingredients. With the egg bath and coating, and the frying oil, not everything is absorbed into the food.
I've thought about measuring what I put out to use etc, then measuring what is left over, but 1) that's super tasky, and 2) there's no way for me to calculate the calories until after I make it, so it's hard for me to gauge how to eat through the day to help it fit.
Any suggestions?
Is this the recipe? http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/toasted-ravioli/
I have half a bag of frozen ravioli that my OH liked but I didn't - I bet breading and frying fixes them for me
doesnt breading and frying fix MOST things???????? lolololol4 -
anyways, OP .... find a similar, high calorie one in the database and use it. Personally, i use the recipe builder and go by that.0
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crazykatlady820 wrote: »How have I lived for almost 36 years and not had fried ravioli?! It sounds delicious!
They are really horrible and you should never try them. I will save you by eating them all myself.
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If OP wants to eat it, eat it. Log it as a cheat meal or cheat day.
For the record, I wasn't raised eating fried foods. I don't even know how to fry anything. That doesn't make me a stick-in-the-mud.4 -
MostlyWater wrote: »If OP wants to eat it, eat it. Log it as a cheat meal or cheat day.
For the record, I wasn't raised eating fried foods. I don't even know how to fry anything. That doesn't make me a stick-in-the-mud.
I think people are responding less to your personal lack of interest in fried foods (we know people enjoy different things) than your recommendation that others skip them just because you don't care for them that much.
Eat what you like, just acknowledge that others are going to eat what they enjoy.5 -
MostlyWater wrote: »If OP wants to eat it, eat it. Log it as a cheat meal or cheat day.
For the record, I wasn't raised eating fried foods. I don't even know how to fry anything. That doesn't make me a stick-in-the-mud.
You come across as kind of bossy. Did you know that? You told the OP to eat the boiled ravioli instead of fried and now you are telling her how to log it. Cheating implies fried food is something to feel guilty for. I eat fried food within my calories and it is never cheating.
I wasn't raised eating fried food either. I was also raised in a mostly baconless world. All of those years wasted...
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MostlyWater wrote: »If OP wants to eat it, eat it. Log it as a cheat meal or cheat day.
For the record, I wasn't raised eating fried foods. I don't even know how to fry anything. That doesn't make me a stick-in-the-mud.
You come across as kind of bossy? Did you know that? You told the OP to eat the boiled ravioli instead of fried and now you are telling her how to log it. Cheating implies fried food is something to feel guilty for. I eat fried food within my calories and it is never cheating.
I wasn't raised eating fried food either. I also was raised in a mostly baconless world. All of those years wasted...
Yeah, people have provided really good suggestions to do what OP asked for help with (logging a decent estimate). Telling them to log it as a cheat day or a cheat meal doesn't make sense because OP is specifically doing this in the context of fitting it into their day and that is a perfectly valid approach.
Fried food can fit into specific calorie goals -- I did it while I was losing weight and I still do it now (because the "cheat day" concept, while fine for others, doesn't really work for me).
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janejellyroll wrote: »Yeah, people have provided really good suggestions to do what OP asked for help with (logging a decent estimate). Telling them to log it as a cheat day or a cheat meal doesn't make sense because OP is specifically doing this in the context of fitting it into their day and that is a perfectly valid approach.
Fried food can fit into specific calorie goals -- I did it while I was losing weight and I still do it now (because the "cheat day" concept, while fine for others, doesn't really work for me).
Besides it is the OP's diet. As long as she isn't harming herself somehow I don't care what she eats or how she logs it. It is none of my business.
On a personal note if I made a batch of fried ravioli and if I didn't have some I would not be a happy dieting camper and that is the kind of thing that has led me to some retaliatory eating in the past. Luckily with advanced notice most of us can make things fit if we want them bad enough.5 -
Log uncooked raviolis for the number you ate. Depending on how many you ate add 5 to 10g of flour, 5 to 10g of egg, 5 to 10g of canola or other oil... you won't be off by more than a couple of hundred calories! A small cutting error with your slice of cake will easily take care of that!
Unless you participate in quite a few birthdays every month, neither inaccuracy (the ravioli or the potentially shaky cake slice cutting) will matter in the context of the ~730,000 maintenance calories a mythical woman eats in a year!
Happy (son) Birthday!0 -
crazykatlady820 wrote: »How have I lived for almost 36 years and not had fried ravioli?! It sounds delicious!
They are really horrible and you should never try them. I will save you by eating them all myself.
We can't ask you to do that... pass the plate over here. Now let go... I said, let go!4 -
Yes but we all know your weakness now. Look at this nice cup of coffee. What do you want with ravioli when you could be drinking a hot cup of joe with an unknown amount of creamer in it?
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coooooooooooooofeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! <no creamer today ;-)>0
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Ahhhhhhh.... I love the uber supportive community here at MFP
Yes, the link to the toasted ravioli was correct. Yes, it is delicious. I only discovered it about 2 years ago and it's one son's favorite. He opted for it instead of being taken out for dinner. We serve with warmed pizza sauce for dipping. And it's always an entree at our house (I don't do that much work for appetizers lol)
And just to say it: I'm well aware there are many ways to handle situations with unhealthy foods. Avoiding them is one extreme. Ignoring the repercussions and eating however many I want is another way. Taking the time to fill in my knowledge gaps to help me make reasonable, sustainable choices is how I'm handling it now. So yes, I made a conscious choice to eat 3 fried ravioli.. and then finish it off with 2 boiled ones (another kid detests fried ravioli so I boil some on the side already).
Oh... we skipped cake. Smart kid asked for peach and blueberry cobbler. And I just might have some for breakfast...6
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