Running and Sunscreen
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+1 for Hat and sunglasses. My bald head still gets sunscreen (yes, even though I cover it with a hat), but the hat wicks up enough sweat to keep it from running into my eyes most of the time.1
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TavistockToad wrote: »duskyjewel wrote: »How long are you out for and how fair are you? Because honestly, if I know I'll be in the sun for an hour or less I don't even bother with sunscreen.
Eek... It takes a lot less than an hour for the sun to damage your skin
I'm an adult and understand that it's a calculated risk. But we also need vitamin D and you don't make it from the sun hitting your skin if it's always covered in sunscreen.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/benefits-of-moderate-sun-exposure5 -
I hate, hate, hate the feel of sunscreen in my eyes. I got a visor and some sunglasses with bigger lenses so I only have to apply it below my eyes. I burn really easily and this combination has worked well for me for years now.0
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Another vote for SunBum - and I do have sensitive skin and have used both the stick and the lotion without incident.0
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I use Banana Boat kids that I steal from my grandson
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duskyjewel wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »duskyjewel wrote: »How long are you out for and how fair are you? Because honestly, if I know I'll be in the sun for an hour or less I don't even bother with sunscreen.
Eek... It takes a lot less than an hour for the sun to damage your skin
I'm an adult and understand that it's a calculated risk. But we also need vitamin D and you don't make it from the sun hitting your skin if it's always covered in sunscreen.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/benefits-of-moderate-sun-exposure
The article you linked does not advise people not to wear sunscreen. In fact, the last paragraph specifically recommends using sunscreen. The American Academy of Dermatology also advises that we should wear sunscreen to protect against skin cancer, and get vitamin D from our diets or supplements if needed (https://www.aad.org/media/stats/prevention-and-care/vitamin-d-and-uv-exposure). There are plenty of ways to get vitamin D without damaging your skin.2 -
duskyjewel wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »duskyjewel wrote: »How long are you out for and how fair are you? Because honestly, if I know I'll be in the sun for an hour or less I don't even bother with sunscreen.
Eek... It takes a lot less than an hour for the sun to damage your skin
I'm an adult and understand that it's a calculated risk. But we also need vitamin D and you don't make it from the sun hitting your skin if it's always covered in sunscreen.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/benefits-of-moderate-sun-exposure
The article you linked does not advise people not to wear sunscreen. In fact, the last paragraph specifically recommends using sunscreen. The American Academy of Dermatology also advises that we should wear sunscreen to protect against skin cancer, and get vitamin D from our diets or supplements if needed (https://www.aad.org/media/stats/prevention-and-care/vitamin-d-and-uv-exposure). There are plenty of ways to get vitamin D without damaging your skin.
I have a loved one who has had multiple melanomas removed (fortunately all caught very early).
Skipping sunscreen doesn't seem like a calculated risk to me, given how easy it is to supplement vitamin D. It just seems like a risk.3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »I have a loved one who has had multiple melanomas removed (fortunately all caught very early).
Skipping sunscreen doesn't seem like a calculated risk to me, given how easy it is to supplement vitamin D. It just seems like a risk.
My mom was a sun worshiper when she was in her 20s. She ended up with melanoma and was battling it for over 10 years (with a bout of colon cancer as well). The melanoma began to spread, first to one of her lungs, then to her brain. She died 9 years ago.
Don't risk it, use sunscreen!
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L1zardQueen wrote: »I use a hat and only put sunscreen on below my eyes.
I do this when I exercise- and I use the neutrogena face shield oil free.
If i'm not going to be too sweaty I use it everywhere.0 -
Thanks everyone! I wear hats/visors a lot, but some days I just don't want to.1
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Jeebus Kripes, people, I'm not laying out and I'm not a sun worshipper. I go out in the early morning sun once a day for about 40 minutes 5 days a week. Calm down. Make your own choices, I just made a suggestion for the OP to consider.
PS I never claimed that article told people not to wear sunscreen. What it advocates is a balanced approach to the question rather than religious style devotion to one doctrinaire position.6 -
Asian sunscreens all the way! It seems Asian consumers care a lot more about sun protection than American ones, so they've really perfected sunscreen.
I order a Japanese one off of Amazon: Biore Perfect Face Milk (the white one -- the blue and pink ones are tinted). I recommend it to all my friends, and the 5 that have actually tried it all ordered a bottle for themselves. I tend towards oily skin and this sunscreen is mattefying. It barely has any smell and it goes on very smooth and absorbs well. It doesn't feel or smell like you are wearing anything but maybe a very thin, lightweight moisturizer, and the SPF is pretty high! Plus the cost is reasonable -- $7 for a bottle that lasts me a month (I wear sunscreen every day for anti-aging purposes). I don't make a point of exercising with it on, but I have before and don't recall it ever running into my eyes. It does take awhile to get to the States, so I order 3 bottles at a time and reorder when I'm on my last bottle.
I have never found an American sunscreen that rivals it -- even the very expensive ones are just not as good.3 -
Hat or visor for the forehead and only put it on the lower half.1
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Anybody have a sunscreen they love for their face that doesn't burn the crap out their eyes as you sweat? Bonus if it is good with sensitive skin. Tired of feeling like I'm running blind for half my run each day.
Sun protection for me always is:- Visors by preference
- Glasses
- IF it is excessively hot - many of us where I live, wear balaclavas (like UA's HeatGear) and gloves. Looking like trail and/or road running mummies is sometimes our norm. The only gender determinants are body shape and the bun pony bumps.
- Blue lizard (Australian) sunscreen all over my body. I have to watch the sunscreen I use because of where I live. If it has the wrong fragrance, it'll protect me from the sun and attract bugs - counterproductive.
- Sun protective clothing
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duskyjewel wrote: »Jeebus Kripes, people, I'm not laying out and I'm not a sun worshipper. I go out in the early morning sun once a day for about 40 minutes 5 days a week. Calm down. Make your own choices, I just made a suggestion for the OP to consider.
PS I never claimed that article told people not to wear sunscreen. What it advocates is a balanced approach to the question rather than religious style devotion to one doctrinaire position.
My mom wasn't a sun worshipper either. She never laid out, but that didn't stop her moderate sun exposure from being a problem for her today. 40 minutes, 5 days a week is enough to cause problems in people who may be prone to them. Skin cancer isn't just a problem for those who were laying out for hours at a time.
I'm glad you haven't had personal experience with the issue yet, it's a really fortunate thing. But there are reasons the rest of us like to protect our skin. It has nothing to do with being "doctrinaire" and everything to do with having seen people actually confront the impact of years of cumulative exposure to what seemed like reasonable amounts of radiation from the sun.6 -
duskyjewel wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »duskyjewel wrote: »How long are you out for and how fair are you? Because honestly, if I know I'll be in the sun for an hour or less I don't even bother with sunscreen.
Eek... It takes a lot less than an hour for the sun to damage your skin
I'm an adult and understand that it's a calculated risk. But we also need vitamin D and you don't make it from the sun hitting your skin if it's always covered in sunscreen.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/benefits-of-moderate-sun-exposure
That's how I rationalized it too until having to have a cancerous lesion removed from my forehead. SPF 50 (below the eyes) and a hat & sunglasses are my best friends.....vitamin d supplements are cheap and necessary in winter (yes I wear sunscreen in winter too - the Irish is strong in me!)6 -
NO-AD is great at any SPF1
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duskyjewel wrote: »Jeebus Kripes, people, I'm not laying out and I'm not a sun worshipper. I go out in the early morning sun once a day for about 40 minutes 5 days a week. Calm down. Make your own choices, I just made a suggestion for the OP to consider.
PS I never claimed that article told people not to wear sunscreen. What it advocates is a balanced approach to the question rather than religious style devotion to one doctrinaire position.
This is about science, not religion or doctrine. No one is being “doctrinaire.” The article does not advocate a “balanced approach” in the sense of claiming there are valid pro and anti suncreen arguments. It clearly says at the end that you should wear sunscreen. Professional medical associations do not advocate going without sunscreen. You can be of the opinion that you don’t want to wear sunscreen, but the medical and scientific consensus agrees that this isn’t a healthy approach.7 -
I've been liking these sweat-resistant sunscreens for my face (none sting my eyes):
Kiss my face sensitive sunscreen spf30 - no fragrance, sweat/water resistant, combined physical/chemical sunscreen, moisturizing so it may feel greasy if you're a very oily-skinned person (I'm normal-oily and it's fine if I skip my AM moisturizer)
Banana boat dry balance spf50 - fragranced (watermelon...kind of), exceptionally non-greasy for an American sunscreen, sweat/water resistant, chemical sunscreen
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I never said, "Don't wear sunscreen."
Here's the last paragraph you all keep referencing, bolding added for reference:
"Nobody wants to get skin cancer, but we've gone from sun worship to sun dread. Dr. Stern and others say there is a middle way that includes using a sunscreen with a sun protection factor (SPF) of at least 15 when you're outside for an extended period and wearing a hat and shirt around midday. So when summer's here, get outside and enjoy it!"
Gee, that sounds exactly like what I said in my first post.7
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