Running and Sunscreen
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Jeebus Kripes, people, I'm not laying out and I'm not a sun worshipper. I go out in the early morning sun once a day for about 40 minutes 5 days a week. Calm down. Make your own choices, I just made a suggestion for the OP to consider.
PS I never claimed that article told people not to wear sunscreen. What it advocates is a balanced approach to the question rather than religious style devotion to one doctrinaire position.6 -
Asian sunscreens all the way! It seems Asian consumers care a lot more about sun protection than American ones, so they've really perfected sunscreen.
I order a Japanese one off of Amazon: Biore Perfect Face Milk (the white one -- the blue and pink ones are tinted). I recommend it to all my friends, and the 5 that have actually tried it all ordered a bottle for themselves. I tend towards oily skin and this sunscreen is mattefying. It barely has any smell and it goes on very smooth and absorbs well. It doesn't feel or smell like you are wearing anything but maybe a very thin, lightweight moisturizer, and the SPF is pretty high! Plus the cost is reasonable -- $7 for a bottle that lasts me a month (I wear sunscreen every day for anti-aging purposes). I don't make a point of exercising with it on, but I have before and don't recall it ever running into my eyes. It does take awhile to get to the States, so I order 3 bottles at a time and reorder when I'm on my last bottle.
I have never found an American sunscreen that rivals it -- even the very expensive ones are just not as good.3 -
Hat or visor for the forehead and only put it on the lower half.1
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Anybody have a sunscreen they love for their face that doesn't burn the crap out their eyes as you sweat? Bonus if it is good with sensitive skin. Tired of feeling like I'm running blind for half my run each day.
Sun protection for me always is:- Visors by preference
- Glasses
- IF it is excessively hot - many of us where I live, wear balaclavas (like UA's HeatGear) and gloves. Looking like trail and/or road running mummies is sometimes our norm. The only gender determinants are body shape and the bun pony bumps.
- Blue lizard (Australian) sunscreen all over my body. I have to watch the sunscreen I use because of where I live. If it has the wrong fragrance, it'll protect me from the sun and attract bugs - counterproductive.
- Sun protective clothing
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duskyjewel wrote: »Jeebus Kripes, people, I'm not laying out and I'm not a sun worshipper. I go out in the early morning sun once a day for about 40 minutes 5 days a week. Calm down. Make your own choices, I just made a suggestion for the OP to consider.
PS I never claimed that article told people not to wear sunscreen. What it advocates is a balanced approach to the question rather than religious style devotion to one doctrinaire position.
My mom wasn't a sun worshipper either. She never laid out, but that didn't stop her moderate sun exposure from being a problem for her today. 40 minutes, 5 days a week is enough to cause problems in people who may be prone to them. Skin cancer isn't just a problem for those who were laying out for hours at a time.
I'm glad you haven't had personal experience with the issue yet, it's a really fortunate thing. But there are reasons the rest of us like to protect our skin. It has nothing to do with being "doctrinaire" and everything to do with having seen people actually confront the impact of years of cumulative exposure to what seemed like reasonable amounts of radiation from the sun.6 -
duskyjewel wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »duskyjewel wrote: »How long are you out for and how fair are you? Because honestly, if I know I'll be in the sun for an hour or less I don't even bother with sunscreen.
Eek... It takes a lot less than an hour for the sun to damage your skin
I'm an adult and understand that it's a calculated risk. But we also need vitamin D and you don't make it from the sun hitting your skin if it's always covered in sunscreen.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/benefits-of-moderate-sun-exposure
That's how I rationalized it too until having to have a cancerous lesion removed from my forehead. SPF 50 (below the eyes) and a hat & sunglasses are my best friends.....vitamin d supplements are cheap and necessary in winter (yes I wear sunscreen in winter too - the Irish is strong in me!)6 -
NO-AD is great at any SPF1
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duskyjewel wrote: »Jeebus Kripes, people, I'm not laying out and I'm not a sun worshipper. I go out in the early morning sun once a day for about 40 minutes 5 days a week. Calm down. Make your own choices, I just made a suggestion for the OP to consider.
PS I never claimed that article told people not to wear sunscreen. What it advocates is a balanced approach to the question rather than religious style devotion to one doctrinaire position.
This is about science, not religion or doctrine. No one is being “doctrinaire.” The article does not advocate a “balanced approach” in the sense of claiming there are valid pro and anti suncreen arguments. It clearly says at the end that you should wear sunscreen. Professional medical associations do not advocate going without sunscreen. You can be of the opinion that you don’t want to wear sunscreen, but the medical and scientific consensus agrees that this isn’t a healthy approach.7 -
I've been liking these sweat-resistant sunscreens for my face (none sting my eyes):
Kiss my face sensitive sunscreen spf30 - no fragrance, sweat/water resistant, combined physical/chemical sunscreen, moisturizing so it may feel greasy if you're a very oily-skinned person (I'm normal-oily and it's fine if I skip my AM moisturizer)
Banana boat dry balance spf50 - fragranced (watermelon...kind of), exceptionally non-greasy for an American sunscreen, sweat/water resistant, chemical sunscreen
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I never said, "Don't wear sunscreen."
Here's the last paragraph you all keep referencing, bolding added for reference:
"Nobody wants to get skin cancer, but we've gone from sun worship to sun dread. Dr. Stern and others say there is a middle way that includes using a sunscreen with a sun protection factor (SPF) of at least 15 when you're outside for an extended period and wearing a hat and shirt around midday. So when summer's here, get outside and enjoy it!"
Gee, that sounds exactly like what I said in my first post.7 -
Neutrogena Age Shield, SPF 110. It's my regular sunscreen because I'm super fair. I like it because it's not greasy. A lot of people have told me the protection is all the same after about SPF 50, but I'll pay the extra couple bucks just in case. Augment with shades and a hat.2
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To the people "woo"ing my posts.......
Okay, you go tell Harvard that they have idiots posting on their website.
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I would just like to say: Judging from your pictures, not one of you has ANY idea what you are talking about.
Try being a bald guy, with no hair to keep the sweat on the top of your head, so it all comes pouring down into your eyes.
I speak with authority.
Wear sunscreen.
Apply the sunscreen one to two hours before setting out. It seems to get absorbed better and stays out of your eyes better that way.
Nothing is perfect, however.6 -
duskyjewel wrote: »How long are you out for and how fair are you? Because honestly, if I know I'll be in the sun for an hour or less I don't even bother with sunscreen.
Also, where do you live. Here in New Zealand you can get burnt in just 5 minutes during summer, and I've been burnt on a sunny day in winter before - not enough crap in our atmosphere apparently!! An hour without sunscreen would have me with serious blisters on my face and in a lot of pain. I couldn't believe it when I spent a month in Italy and could wander around much of the day without sunblock, just a hat, and simply ended up with a nice tan.
I hate sunblock when running so always wear a hat, sunscreen below the eyes only, and run early morning or evening during much of the year.3 -
GiddyupTim wrote: »I would just like to say: Judging from your pictures, not one of you has ANY idea what you are talking about.
Try being a bald guy, with no hair to keep the sweat on the top of your head, so it all comes pouring down into your eyes.
I speak with authority.
Wear sunscreen.
Apply the sunscreen one to two hours before setting out. It seems to get absorbed better and stays out of your eyes better that way.
Nothing is perfect, however.
I'm a bald guy...2 -
I live in Arizona4
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Asian sunscreens all the way! It seems Asian consumers care a lot more about sun protection than American ones, so they've really perfected sunscreen.
I order a Japanese one off of Amazon: Biore Perfect Face Milk (the white one -- the blue and pink ones are tinted). I recommend it to all my friends, and the 5 that have actually tried it all ordered a bottle for themselves. I tend towards oily skin and this sunscreen is mattefying. It barely has any smell and it goes on very smooth and absorbs well. It doesn't feel or smell like you are wearing anything but maybe a very thin, lightweight moisturizer, and the SPF is pretty high! Plus the cost is reasonable -- $7 for a bottle that lasts me a month (I wear sunscreen every day for anti-aging purposes). I don't make a point of exercising with it on, but I have before and don't recall it ever running into my eyes. It does take awhile to get to the States, so I order 3 bottles at a time and reorder when I'm on my last bottle.
I have never found an American sunscreen that rivals it -- even the very expensive ones are just not as good.
Asian sunscreens are great for everyday wear, but they're not designed to be water resistant. The FDA has strict rules about when a sunscreen can claim to be water resistant on the label, much higher standards than other countries, I would never wear an imported sunscreen for exercise. They're awesome for daily use though!1 -
Neutrogena SPF 100 sport is what I use on my face everyday. Today got to 105° so I sweat while outside regardless of how much physical activity I am doing. I spray an SPF 70 everywhere else every morning as UV does penetrate clothing.0
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Another vote for cap and sunglasses, sunscreen only below eye level. Sweatband is a semi-alternative to the hat, if you have plenty of hair. 1
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midwesterner85 wrote: »GiddyupTim wrote: »I would just like to say: Judging from your pictures, not one of you has ANY idea what you are talking about.
Try being a bald guy, with no hair to keep the sweat on the top of your head, so it all comes pouring down into your eyes.
I speak with authority.
Wear sunscreen.
Apply the sunscreen one to two hours before setting out. It seems to get absorbed better and stays out of your eyes better that way.
Nothing is perfect, however.
I'm a bald guy...
You win then!
Er...
No.
Lose, really.....0 -
duskyjewel wrote: »To the people "woo"ing my posts.......
Okay, you go tell Harvard that they have idiots posting on their website.
If someone's wrong, they're wrong. Even if they are posting on the Harvard website. What kind of messed up appeal to authority is this?8 -
Bullfrog Marathon Mist in the continuous spray can was my favourite, but it seems to have been discontinued. They make a "land sport" and "water sport" sunscreen now, I suspect it's been rebranded as one of those (I haven't tried either). Coppertone Sport is my second choice.0
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happytree923 wrote: »Asian sunscreens all the way! It seems Asian consumers care a lot more about sun protection than American ones, so they've really perfected sunscreen.
I order a Japanese one off of Amazon: Biore Perfect Face Milk (the white one -- the blue and pink ones are tinted). I recommend it to all my friends, and the 5 that have actually tried it all ordered a bottle for themselves. I tend towards oily skin and this sunscreen is mattefying. It barely has any smell and it goes on very smooth and absorbs well. It doesn't feel or smell like you are wearing anything but maybe a very thin, lightweight moisturizer, and the SPF is pretty high! Plus the cost is reasonable -- $7 for a bottle that lasts me a month (I wear sunscreen every day for anti-aging purposes). I don't make a point of exercising with it on, but I have before and don't recall it ever running into my eyes. It does take awhile to get to the States, so I order 3 bottles at a time and reorder when I'm on my last bottle.
I have never found an American sunscreen that rivals it -- even the very expensive ones are just not as good.
Asian sunscreens are great for everyday wear, but they're not designed to be water resistant. The FDA has strict rules about when a sunscreen can claim to be water resistant on the label, much higher standards than other countries, I would never wear an imported sunscreen for exercise. They're awesome for daily use though!
That particular one is labeled to be water- and sweat-resistant on the Amazon page, but admittedly I can't read Japanese so I don't know for a fact that that's what it says on the bottle. I do love it for daily use.0 -
happytree923 wrote: »Asian sunscreens all the way! It seems Asian consumers care a lot more about sun protection than American ones, so they've really perfected sunscreen.
I order a Japanese one off of Amazon: Biore Perfect Face Milk (the white one -- the blue and pink ones are tinted). I recommend it to all my friends, and the 5 that have actually tried it all ordered a bottle for themselves. I tend towards oily skin and this sunscreen is mattefying. It barely has any smell and it goes on very smooth and absorbs well. It doesn't feel or smell like you are wearing anything but maybe a very thin, lightweight moisturizer, and the SPF is pretty high! Plus the cost is reasonable -- $7 for a bottle that lasts me a month (I wear sunscreen every day for anti-aging purposes). I don't make a point of exercising with it on, but I have before and don't recall it ever running into my eyes. It does take awhile to get to the States, so I order 3 bottles at a time and reorder when I'm on my last bottle.
I have never found an American sunscreen that rivals it -- even the very expensive ones are just not as good.
Asian sunscreens are great for everyday wear, but they're not designed to be water resistant. The FDA has strict rules about when a sunscreen can claim to be water resistant on the label, much higher standards than other countries, I would never wear an imported sunscreen for exercise. They're awesome for daily use though!
I mean, other governments also regulate what can be labeled water/sweat resistant. The US isn't the only one. For Japan specifically, a sunscreen is classified as a "daily/commuter" sunscreen or a "sports/active" sunscreen depending on how sweat/water resistant it is. You can find this info on sites like ratzillacosme.2 -
I have an awesome factor 30 by neutrogena that is so good I forget I’m wearing it. And I hate wearing sunscreen0
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Another vote for SunBum - and I do have sensitive skin and have used both the stick and the lotion without incident.
I hope you're ok. It freaks me out to hear about people not wearing sunscreen. Are you young? I find people get more fanatic about sunscreen when they're older and all of a sudden their friends look like very different ages because of sun damage.3 -
duskyjewel wrote: »I live in Arizona
I'll admit I'm paranoid about skin damage from sun, which is helped by the fact that I HATE SUNBURN! It freaking HURTS. It makes me look awful.
Just had my reunion, and I'm in my 40s. Our physical ages varied by a good ten years, mostly based on our skin. Gray hair can be touched up! The leatheriest-skinned ones didn't seem to mind displaying a VERY active outdoor life either in full sun all the time, at high altitude, or whatever. That's discounting the several woman who had died of skin cancer.
My brother-in-law doesn't seem to mind either. Drives around in his convertible all day getting burnt as all get-out. Gets a melanoma, has it removed, wears a hat for a while, then seems to drop that concern.
15 minutes in the sun without sunblock is fine, even according to my pale-as-anything red-headed doctor who's fanatical about skin exposure. Otherwise I worry.
Lecture ends here!2 -
drbeanie2000 wrote: »Another vote for SunBum - and I do have sensitive skin and have used both the stick and the lotion without incident.
I hope you're ok. It freaks me out to hear about people not wearing sunscreen. Are you young? I find people get more fanatic about sunscreen when they're older and all of a sudden their friends look like very different ages because of sun damage.
Sun Bum is a brand name.
https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=sun+bum&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=241654194902&hvpos=1t3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17914685826798420318&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007544&hvtargid=kwd-296251145880&ref=pd_sl_9dqtmlh3iz_e_p380 -
I use the R&F sunscreen1
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I don't wear any. Just a hat. I spray some of the sprayable on my shoulders since that is where I typically get burned, and that's it.0
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