Nervous on bumping calories...
honkinballs
Posts: 34 Member
I'll be frank, I've had arguments in here before with people with me saying "I'm on 1200 calories and I'm doing great" as far as cutting goes.
After doing that cut for so long and losing 120 pounds, which was great for the initial cut, I'm re-evaluating what I eat. I'm introducing a lot more protein and bumping the calories from 1200 to around 1800. In all honesty though, I'm nervous as hell doing this since I can only imagine myself ballooning up to a massive fatty like I used to be. Not that I'm not a fatty now, but I never want to be 300+ pounds again in my life.
I'll still be in a deficit sure as far as TDEE goes, I'm going to my CrossFit box Monday through Friday (or Saturday) per usual but now I am introducing at least two strength sessions in after the WODs on my own. I'm justified in the calorie bump, right? This will help build muscle which burns fat, right?
I'm already doing the calorie bump but mentally all I can see is me becoming huge again after depending on that massive initial deficit for so long.
If you need to know:
5'8 M
Starting weight 330
Current weight 210
After doing that cut for so long and losing 120 pounds, which was great for the initial cut, I'm re-evaluating what I eat. I'm introducing a lot more protein and bumping the calories from 1200 to around 1800. In all honesty though, I'm nervous as hell doing this since I can only imagine myself ballooning up to a massive fatty like I used to be. Not that I'm not a fatty now, but I never want to be 300+ pounds again in my life.
I'll still be in a deficit sure as far as TDEE goes, I'm going to my CrossFit box Monday through Friday (or Saturday) per usual but now I am introducing at least two strength sessions in after the WODs on my own. I'm justified in the calorie bump, right? This will help build muscle which burns fat, right?
I'm already doing the calorie bump but mentally all I can see is me becoming huge again after depending on that massive initial deficit for so long.
If you need to know:
5'8 M
Starting weight 330
Current weight 210
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You should never have been on 1200 cals in the first place. 1800 sounds a lot more reasonable. All you have done so far is lose a load of muscle along with the fat.
Add 200 cals a week instead of jumping straight to 1800, it'll reduce the scale fluctuations, but don't be suprised if you see an increase in your weight at first.16 -
Don’t be scared! Bumping the calorie intake up for your workouts will help! You won’t blow up!!! This will really help you have more energy and help your performance. If you want those muscle add those calories. You got this!!!1
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Good lord, as a middle aged woman at 5'2" I can lose 2 lb/week on 1700 calories. Makes me cringe to think of the damage you could have done here and may not see for a while yet. I agree with increasing slowly, couple hundred a week, and just hang on while the scale levels out in the coming weeks. You may have a bit of a jump on the weight, but it will be due to water and increased food inside your digestive tract.7
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The good news is I doubt if you have kept this exercise program up for more than a couple of months that you are only eating 1200 calories because that is insanity. If you don't have one you need to get a food scale and figure out what you are eating currently.1
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I swear 1200 is the magic number to freak you people out
I'll keep riding the increase and we'll see where it takes me, I'll just have to trust everyone it won't make me balloon up.8 -
honkinballs wrote: »I swear 1200 is the magic number to freak you people out
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anything under 1500 is undereating for a male. it should freak you out as well...16 -
honkinballs wrote: »I swear 1200 is the magic number to freak you people out
I'll keep riding the increase and we'll see where it takes me, I'll just have to trust everyone it won't make me balloon up.
Actually it is the magic number that people love to pick instead of relying on anything remotely scientific. You are just another in a long line of people parading through here who have jumped on 1200 for who knows what reason. Did you write some calorie totals on some papers, affix them to a dartboard, and trust your health to random choice by throwing a dart?
ETA: Just to be clear there is nothing wrong with lower calorie days if you are banking them to use another day.8 -
I started my journey at 77kg I bulked Intensively for nearly a year and worked my way up-to 96kg, I’ve been cutting every since on a diet consisting of 2000-2500 kcal my macro ratio is 50/30/20, all I can say is if you feel the need to change your diet in any way then just do it, you know your body best, the one way to know if something will work is to just try it and experiment1
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Mostly because it is commonly accepted that men shouldn't go below 1500 and women shouldn't go below 1200.
So you as a male on a 1200 budget are only at 80% of the minimum. That's significantly below the accepted amount.
That isn't to say people can't survive on lower intakes than that, obviously you did, but when basically every single nutritionist and body sculpting professional agree on something, it is a reasonable assumption that they are right. You most certainly did damage to your system going on that low of an intake at your starting size. You lost weight, great, but at a higher cost than you needed to pay for it.
To answer your question about bumping up the calories, a gradual increase is better, but you won't balloon up at 1800. That is still in the maintenance/deficit range depending on your activity level.3 -
I'm 5'5", 62 y/o, female, sedentary outside of intentional exercise, and lost very handily (a pound or more a week) at a weight in the 150s, while eating around 1500 (+/- 100) plus eating all exercise calories. I now lose slowly in the lower 130s at 1850 calories, again eating all exercise calories. I admit I'm a good li'l ol' lady calorie burner, but still . . . !
Do I think a 5'8" 210-pound male who looks to be 1/2 to 1/3 of my age will continue to lose at 1800 calories while weight training and doing Crossfit? Um, yeah!
What I don't get is why a person in that demographic would be eating 1200 in the first place: I did it for a short few weeks, when MFP estimated it for me because I'm old, sedentary and not very tall, but lost way too fast and got weak and fatigued, a condition it took several more weeks to recover from. People often say 1200 is for old, small, sedentary women. It isn't even good for all of us.
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First, he was an obese man on a very low calorie diet. Obese people can handle larger deficits.
Second, it's done. He lost 120lbs. We don't need to lecture him on it.
Third, the point of his post was looking for reassurance that he won't gain at 1800 calories. You won't gain at 1800 calories. You could probably go up to 2000 and continue to lose at a good rate.10 -
Many people, regardless of how secure they are with the math, have hangups about increasing calories. That's why maintenance can be difficult for people to adjust to. But, no, you're not going to gain by upping them. You may see a small bump due to glycogen replenishment from coming out of such a steep deficit but don't let that deter you. Expect it and then expect it to balance out.4
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Dude, looks at it this way: You worked REALLY hard so you could get to the point where you don't have to eat 1,200 calories a day! Why resist now that you're here?
Maintenance is a lot harder than eating at a deficit in some ways, it takes a long time to wrap your head around NOT losing weight. The fact is though that you will be in maintenance for the rest of your life, its not a phase like losing is. You haven't done it before so it'll be new, just give yourself time to learn, adapt, and manage it.
But if you are doing that much CrossFit, you need to be eating more than 1,200 calories brother. That's what the kids these days call "crazy"...3
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